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Same-sex Marriage?
Yes for Same-sex Marriage
47%
 47%  [ 18 ]
Religion out of the Gov't Civil Unions for All
13%
 13%  [ 5 ]
Same-sex Civil Unions are Okay
7%
 7%  [ 3 ]
No
31%
 31%  [ 12 ]
Total Votes : 38


Lord Bitememan
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 6:56 am
captin bigshot911NK
i don't care what they do just IT CAN NOT BE A MARIAGE a marriage is a sacred religious ceremony between a MAN and a WOMAN

marriage has bin spat on enough it dose need this

so as long as it is not a marriage i don't care it is not supported my faith


How is this spitting on marriage? The only way I could see that is if you are assuming that the couples getting married aren't really serious about it, as a rule, or will not take the vows seriously, as a rule. It would only be then that elevating the unions to the seriousness of a marriage would then be spitting on that marriage. I caution you, though, that many heterosexual unions would also be similarly spitting on the institution under that framework.  
PostPosted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 3:50 pm
to shay you know honestly to me i don't care that there heterosexuals i just don't want to see them have a catholic wedding there that is how i view it and to me this is the smallest problem we have but the trickiest and stupidest really i mean we are all free and by free you can do what ever you want so why can they my conditions would be they can not get married in any of my churches so its NOT a real marriage and ill just sit in a corner murdering that making the voices go away i am for gay unions  

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Lord Bitememan
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 4:29 pm
captin bigshot911NK
to shay you know honestly to me i don't care that there heterosexuals i just don't want to see them have a catholic wedding there that is how i view it and to me this is the smallest problem we have but the trickiest and stupidest really i mean we are all free and by free you can do what ever you want so why can they my conditions would be they can not get married in any of my churches so its NOT a real marriage and ill just sit in a corner murdering that making the voices go away i am for gay unions


Alright, let me try to sort this out here. If gay marriage were legalized, the Catholic church would be under an obligation to perform exactly 0 of them. See, since the church is governed under special 1st Amendment considerations, the state cannot compel it to perform the ceremonies. Legalized gay marriage would be a function of state recognition, not an ecclesiastical mandate.

As for your choice not to recognize marriages not performed in YOUR church, that's your personal choice. I suppose in a similar vein, for all it matters, you can choose not to recognize black weddings or Jewish weddings either. The state, however, is compelled to recognize the same rights and privileges for all its citizens, regardless of how some citizens feel about others.

Lastly, I encourage you to read the following and take its lessons to heart on a stylistic level:

http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2002/10/11/  
PostPosted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 8:22 pm
ha ha ha ! that is so funny I'm not amused anymore sorry dude I'll try.The reason why i don't is well i never think cuss I'm typing you know i have vary crude knowledge of the keyboard i stopped like half way through the class.Due to me dropping out of school.Because A public school in my vary democratic state could not handle my needs i have discrapha it is worse then dyslexia i was told when i was in first grad that i would never be able to do some of the things that i can do.Like reading a non digital clock i finally got it down about a year or two ago i still struggle but it isn't getting easy er i see things backwards basically in a weird way when i was forced to copy in school.I would copy a math question down and get the answer right but it was marked wrong because the question in the book that i was copying from said i was supposed to add the numbers.But when i was copying i subtracted it.We have vary bad educational system hear see i needed help with some stuff but with other stuff i was like a normal individual so i was in sped classes for math writing.But they would still expect me to pass sci class with NO help at all or modifications thay where making me do two plus two or something i couldn't even fathom
and then they have done criminal stuff to me and my family members that i can still sue for


Oh and for the better side i am going to a tecnacal colage and going to get my high school diplomia and im takeing a computer repair class onece we have enough money for that but im comfident  

goodshot911SNK


Lord Bitememan
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 7:46 am
Unfortunate though your story is, when you choose to share your thoughts it is contingent upon the rest of us to make heads or tails of what you've written. The periods help dramatically.  
PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 4:38 pm
Like i said I'll try my beast but it wont be pretty lol thanks for the site to i never was taught what a period was .

actually that's all they ever taught me is first grade stuff seriously.  

goodshot911SNK


Ambedo

PostPosted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 6:42 pm
RenFlower
First off, are you insinuating that homosexuals aren't allowed to be christians, and that any religion that accepts them must be wierd? Plus, are you saying that we shouldn't demand rights for people? Doesn't that go against the whole constitution. That people should say what they believe is right? Are you saying that we shouldn't be fighting to end sexism and racism because we shouldn't ask for more rights? Should people not stand up for their rights when they are wrongly treated? If anything, this puts us on the road to a BETTER democracy, where everyone really is treated equal.
God said that being homosexual was wrong and that your not going to heaven because its against god and yah the constitution says that so do what you want while you can  
PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 11:11 am
GaMeR-gIrL100
RenFlower
First off, are you insinuating that homosexuals aren't allowed to be christians, and that any religion that accepts them must be wierd? Plus, are you saying that we shouldn't demand rights for people? Doesn't that go against the whole constitution. That people should say what they believe is right? Are you saying that we shouldn't be fighting to end sexism and racism because we shouldn't ask for more rights? Should people not stand up for their rights when they are wrongly treated? If anything, this puts us on the road to a BETTER democracy, where everyone really is treated equal.
God said that being homosexual was wrong and that your not going to heaven because its against god and yah the constitution says that so do what you want while you can


Where does the Bible ever say you aren't going to heaven if you are a homosexual?  

Lord Bitememan
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haydenhearts

PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 12:25 pm
i have nothing against gays... some of my friends are gay.... they know im not for gay marriage and some of them agree... besides if they r truly in luv they dont have to hav a ring to show it heart heart heart heart  
PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 6:18 am
Lord Bitememan
GaMeR-gIrL100
RenFlower
First off, are you insinuating that homosexuals aren't allowed to be christians, and that any religion that accepts them must be wierd? Plus, are you saying that we shouldn't demand rights for people? Doesn't that go against the whole constitution. That people should say what they believe is right? Are you saying that we shouldn't be fighting to end sexism and racism because we shouldn't ask for more rights? Should people not stand up for their rights when they are wrongly treated? If anything, this puts us on the road to a BETTER democracy, where everyone really is treated equal.
God said that being homosexual was wrong and that your not going to heaven because its against god and yah the constitution says that so do what you want while you can


Where does the Bible ever say you aren't going to heaven if you are a homosexual?

Didn't we have this conversation a couple pages back?  

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haydenhearts

PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 11:38 am
i think ppl need 2 just drop it and like i said is they truly luv each other then they don't need it on paper.... heart  
PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 6:09 pm
haydenhearts
i think ppl need 2 just drop it and like i said is they truly luv each other then they don't need it on paper.... heart


This should include straight marriage too then.  

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haydenhearts

PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 5:51 am
Rainbowfied Mouse
haydenhearts
i think ppl need 2 just drop it and like i said is they truly luv each other then they don't need it on paper.... heart


This should include straight marriage too then.

well no..... i think marriage is between a man and a woman.... but there should be some way for gay couples to be legally 2gether but no it should not b called marriage  
PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 12:48 pm
haydenhearts
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haydenhearts
i think ppl need 2 just drop it and like i said is they truly luv each other then they don't need it on paper.... heart


This should include straight marriage too then.

well no..... i think marriage is between a man and a woman.... but there should be some way for gay couples to be legally 2gether but no it should not b called marriage


Why? You stated they should drop it because you don't need love on paper to prove it?

And why can't it be called marriage? Are we not all equal citizens?  

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haydenhearts

PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 4:27 pm
Rainbowfied Mouse
haydenhearts
Rainbowfied Mouse
haydenhearts
i think ppl need 2 just drop it and like i said is they truly luv each other then they don't need it on paper.... heart


This should include straight marriage too then.

well no..... i think marriage is between a man and a woman.... but there should be some way for gay couples to be legally 2gether but no it should not b called marriage


Why? You stated they should drop it because you don't need love on paper to prove it?

And why can't it be called marriage? Are we not all equal citizens?

im well aware of wat i said! stressed ur really buging me! okay here let me spell it out 4 you. they SHOULD drop it and although they shouldnt need it on paper if their TRULY in love, but there should be some way for them 2 get it legally done if they r that bent about it got it!?!?  
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