Let's have a rant thread! ~*Stress Relief*~

[Minielf]

cold_blooded_chick

You people have relationship problems, I don't even have a relationship to complain about! stare

Neither do I. I think that's our main problem... *Has massive brain wave* Wait, you live in Sydney right? We could converse to each other by Messenger. ninja

@niph: Lol, so you're like a love tragic. rofl Well, I guess whatever melodrama that happens to you would make for a great romantic drama, if you decide to write it all down. blaugh xd

Still, I'm amazed that you have actually gone and done it, and lost your virgnity in the process. Aren't Asian girls meant to be chaste until they marry? xd At least that's what my parents told me.  

[cold_blooded_chick]

That's very presumptuous of you to assume that she lost her virginity to the guy...and maybe we shouldn't discuss Niph's sex life in such detail. neutral  

[Tokioka]

@Chibs: Dude, what's with the constant DIY talk? It makes it sound like you DIY every single day or something. DIY freak! xD

LOL@Fwoom rofl

LOL@Mini's move rofl Smooth

And your parents are oldschool Mini, just like mine. My dad gave me the sex talk a few years ago and I can remember him saying that my mum was the only woman he'd ever been with. But this is the 21st century and seeing as we're all from western countries it's not unusual that we adopt western views on stuff like sex.  

[Niphz]

No, I wasn't a virgin before. I don't think I would have done it if I was, if that makes sense.

@B&B - It's not that I'm desperate for it, we haven't even seen each other much these past few days - it's just that when it DOES happen I'd like some consideration.

Also, I share a room.

@'elfy - I have no intention of being a dramatist, thanks.

Yeah, I know I brought it up myself, but let's stop discussing it.  

[Chibito7]

Sharing a room with him isn't an excuse! gonk xd

Just kick it into him, though. It's either treat me a bit nicer and I'll sleep with you, or just ******** off. I'm sure it'll work like a charm. rofl

But maa, Niph; don't let him use you or walk all over you. ASSERT YOUR GREATNESS! I believe in you! 4laugh

@Mini&Toki: That is a load of bollocks. As if asian girls should be less promiscuous. Our race is just another stupid excuse for it. rolleyes

I definitely believe in sex before marriage. I refuse to marry someone I haven't had sex with, quite frankly. What if we marry and he turns out to be s**t in bed? gonk

@Toki: Fine. MASTERBASTION.

Happy? stare

s**t, did I spell that right? It looks so wrong! :minigonk:  

[Tokioka]

@Chibs: So you're saying if the guy you loved was s**t in bed you wouldn't marry him? How shallow. talk2hand
It is so wrong. And you know it. P:  

[Chibito7]

I'm serious though. I'm not being shallow. I want to marry someone that I'd be comfortable with... physically. Someone I trust to touch me. (I'm quite justified in thinking like that.) For me, the worst scenario is marrying a guy I couldn't trust myself with sexually. That just shows that I can't be with him. I doubt it'd mean I loved him either, tbh. He doesn't have to be good in bed; I just need to trust him. I'd want to go all the way before marriage, basically. That would seal the fact I'd want to spend the rest of my life with him.

Oh shush you!  

[t o x i c l i p s t i c k]

for one, moving to a completely new place and starting out high school with a bunch of people I didn't even know was hard enough. And now being a girl has to be another thing I constantly worry about. As a girl, I want to feel pretty.....not be it. But no. Where there's the good people, there are also your assholes.

Apparently, I don't look good enough for the damn guys out there.


I guess my "a** fell out of my pants" b/c "I didn't even have one to begin with".

it's either one or the other and god gave me the other.

I'm sorry I'm not the prettiest thing on earth.
I'm sorry I'm not eye candy.
I'm sorry for not having the curves that every guy asks for.
and I'm sorry I can't live up to your expectations.


seriously, I'm sick of everything.  

[Hyacinthe Comeaux]

... sad

/gives toxi a biiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiig hug  

[Minielf]

Niphz

No, I wasn't a virgin before. I don't think I would have done it if I was, if that makes sense.

@B&B - It's not that I'm desperate for it, we haven't even seen each other much these past few days - it's just that when it DOES happen I'd like some consideration.

Also, I share a room.

@'elfy - I have no intention of being a dramatist, thanks.

Yeah, I know I brought it up myself, but let's stop discussing it.

Whoa, you've had sex with other guys before? eek You must have lost your virginity when you were like, 15 or 16. ninja

@B&B: Well, I'm not saying you girls or us guys should be any less promiscous than white guys/girls. The only thing I find uncomfortable with is underage sex. I'm not so consertative to wait until marriage to have sex (which is probably not until the 30s nowadays), but I am of the opinion that you should be at least 18 to have legally consensual sex. After all, if a young girl and an older man have sex, it could considered sexual assault if the girl later says she was forced to do it. And then there's the potential problem of some one lik Niph getting pregnant if she's not careful. ninja

And seriously B&B, sex before marriage? I don't think that should be a prerequisite. talk2hand Are you implying that all marriages have to be shotgun? That we can only marry the people we impregnate? Marriage isn't all about sex. If it was, then there wouldn't be so many divorces. Too many people make the mistake of marrying the person they have had the best sex with.  

[cold_blooded_chick]

Seriously, I know I make a lot of references and jokes to sex and stuff, but it seems we're discussing Niph and B&B's sex lives in too much detail for comfort... neutral  

[Tokioka]

@Chibs: Why can't the guy get good in bed after you've married him? You're gonna spend the rest of your lives together so there's plenty of time to improve.
And what if you're the one who's crap in bed? Does that justify him not loving you any more?

@toxic: What's wrong? :/

@Mini: The age of people having sex is getting younger all the time, in britain anyways. Many kids lose their virginity at 12 years old or even younger. I think we've just got to accept this, cos the fact is, it happens.

@CBC: We've only really been discussing Niph's sex life, cos chibi's is really a hypothetical sex life. Niph brought it up herself so I suppose she's fine with us discussing it.
And this is a public forum, so if you don't feel comfortable with it then you can always just avoid this thread for a while. 3nodding  

[Chibito7]

Blah. You guys really don't understand what I'm getting at.

Btw, cbc, my sex life is nonexistent, so there's not much to discuss. I'm just talking about my views on sex. xp

Anyway. My point is... this is my body. This view isn't something I'd shove on other people. I wouldn't say to Niph that my way is the way to do it. It's just the way my body is comfortable with. I mean, I can't even kiss a guy without being in a relationship with me. I can't pull strangers. It just... doesn't happen. Are you going to ridicule me for that too? Say I'm too prudish or stuck up? Because, quite frankly, if I'm not comfortable with it, then I'm not comfortable with it. If a guy can't accept that then he shouldn't be interested in me.

Marriages aren't shotgun. (What does that really mean though?) That's not what I meant. I don't want good sex from a marriage. If I was after good sex I'd be out there sleeping with as many guys as I could get my hands on to test them all. Isn't it obvious I'm ridiculously conversative when it comes to romance and sex? Or maybe it just doesn't come across. The point is, I don't agree with Niph's way, I just don't. I could never, have sex with someone like that. And just because I can't, doesn't mean anything at all. And secondly, I do believe in sex after marriage, just not for me. Everyone is different. Let me live my life, and you can live yours the way you like to live it. It's the way I view the world. I know it's great if you can hold out until after marriage - one of my online best friends has been restraining himself for so long because he's a very devout Christian, and I admire him for that - and people will argue it's better this way so you don't judge your partner on the sex. But it's not about judging people. For me, it's about whether I trust him or not. If I don't trust him with my body (I don't trust anyone with my body except my brother, my mum and my best friend, if I have to be honest; I'm not a hugger really), I can't trust him... I can't marry him.

I know it seems far-fetched to you all... But... only Toki will understand what I mean when I say I'm 'justified' in being this... strong on this topic. i just don't want people touching me. I don't even like Izy and Lucy touching me, and I've been extremely good friends with them for... years. I'm just not comfortable with it, and I don't really want to tell you why because it's personal... sorry I can't explain myself any more.

As for underage sex, for England it's 16, and I believe it's fine to have sex at that age as long as it's safe. I don't think age is as much of a problem as the safety of teens nowadays, and teen pregnancies, which is ridiculously high in Britain.  

[Minielf]

cold_blooded_chick

Seriously, I know I make a lot of references and jokes to sex and stuff, but it seems we're discussing Niph and B&B's sex lives in too much detail for comfort... neutral

Well, it's not our fault that the thread's become like this. Niph, chose to disclose her sex life to us, and you know that once something enters the public domain, people can get carried away discussing about it.

@Toki: It's probably a reflection of how morally abased our society has become when it seems perfectly fine for 12 year olds to do it and get pregnant. I can cope with 15 or 16 year olds doing it, since by that age most girls have completed puberty and ready for adulthood. But 12 year old girls having babies is still seriously disturbing. They're not even old enough to take care of themselves, let alone children who probably could be considered their younger siblings.

@B&B: I'm fine with what you've said solely being your own personal opinions and about sex and marriage. Just as long as you don't assume that other people should agree with that opinion. You've made yourself clearer with your last post and I can finally see what you're getting at. I too, think you should establish and intimate relationship with someone that may or may not involve sex before you marry. And I too find the nature of Niph's relationship a tad disturbing, since if you're going to have sex with someone you should also be in love with them.

And if you want to know what shotgun marriages are, it's when two people are forced to marry because they've already conceived a child during sex.  

[t o x i c l i p s t i c k]

@toki: I'm sick of every guy expecting every girl to look a certain way to please their eyes.
and if a girl doesn't pertain to their interest, they make a big deal out of it.
I feel like, as a girl, our purpose isn't to please guys.
it's more than that and why can't guys understand any of it?