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Niphredil Ithilmir

PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 11:50 am
Yes, but they're not just representing Allah as female or black. They're putting him in an image, which is forbidden by Islamic tradition, and they're showing his main prophet with a bomb for a turban. I can understand them, to be honest, even though I have no religious affiliation.

Making fun of something is not the same as directly insulting them, which these cartoons appear to be doing; I do think they are rather over the top. I mean, if they were even funny.. but they're really not, unless you're seriously sectarianist and sadistic.

Although I agree, their reaction to it is a little bit hypocritical. But understandably so.  
PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 5:08 pm
Niphredil Ithilmir
Yes, but they're not just representing Allah as female or black. They're putting him in an image, which is forbidden by Islamic tradition, and they're showing his main prophet with a bomb for a turban. I can understand them, to be honest, even though I have no religious affiliation.

Making fun of something is not the same as directly insulting them, which these cartoons appear to be doing; I do think they are rather over the top. I mean, if they were even funny.. but they're really not, unless you're seriously sectarianist and sadistic.

Although I agree, their reaction to it is a little bit hypocritical. But understandably so.

that's true. It really is insulting. Having the person you worship portrayed in such a fashion. 3nodding  

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 7:11 pm
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*RANT TIME!*

Perhaps someone can enlighten me, because I just don't get it.

Given all the current brouhaha about these Danish Mohammad cartoons... I don't quite understand the *violent* reaction.

For one, when I was a devout Catholic... people made fun of God, Jesus, Mary the entire cast-and-crew of Catholicism... and they even did this as part of mainstream culture. Ever watch "Bruce Almighty" or "American Dad"? Well case and point.

Frankly, I just don't get why there are so many protestors, when they do this to the other religions (almost daily if not more). You don't see Catholics killing people because someone made God out to be a "female" (American Dad) or as a "black man" (Bruce Almighty)...

You don't see Buddists, Taoists, etc. going all ape-sh*t over similar stuff. Heck! You don't even see the Atheists burning stuff down, they just complain about references to God. I mean if they're not burning stuff... it must not be a big deal to begin with right?

So what's the big deal? If anything isn't understanding, tolerance, non-violence and peaceful protest the keystones for religion and Islam in particular? And let me tell you, with all the current stuff going around, it *seems* quite the opposite IMHO.

I just don't get it... so if someone can fill me in on this, please do. confused sweatdrop


Those two shows are funny.  
PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 8:27 pm
american dad's a little stupid but bruce almight was good. it wasn't really making fun of god. at least i don't think it was.  

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 8:34 pm
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american dad's a little stupid but bruce almight was good. it wasn't really making fun of god. at least i don't think it was.


Same. Hope God didn't mind it. heart  
PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 12:58 am
Niphredil Ithilmir
Yes, but they're not just representing Allah as female or black. They're putting him in an image, which is forbidden by Islamic tradition, and they're showing his main prophet with a bomb for a turban. I can understand them, to be honest, even though I have no religious affiliation.

Making fun of something is not the same as directly insulting them, which these cartoons appear to be doing; I do think they are rather over the top. I mean, if they were even funny.. but they're really not, unless you're seriously sectarianist and sadistic.

Although I agree, their reaction to it is a little bit hypocritical. But understandably so.

Actually no. Their reaction is an absolute disgrace towards their entire religion and Muhammad's teachings. What was that guy's name, Tarek Fatah? The director of MCC, didn't he say something like, Muhammad faced worse insults than the cartoon and still the right thing to do was to look the other way"? Because this is definitely not what I'm seeing stare Machine gun parade in the middle of the street? confused Hurra for stray bullets neutral  

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Niphredil Ithilmir

PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 8:39 am
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Niphredil Ithilmir
Yes, but they're not just representing Allah as female or black. They're putting him in an image, which is forbidden by Islamic tradition, and they're showing his main prophet with a bomb for a turban. I can understand them, to be honest, even though I have no religious affiliation.

Making fun of something is not the same as directly insulting them, which these cartoons appear to be doing; I do think they are rather over the top. I mean, if they were even funny.. but they're really not, unless you're seriously sectarianist and sadistic.

Although I agree, their reaction to it is a little bit hypocritical. But understandably so.

Actually no. Their reaction is an absolute disgrace towards their entire religion and Muhammad's teachings. What was that guy's name, Tarek Fatah? The director of MCC, didn't he say something like, Muhammad faced worse insults than the cartoon and still the right thing to do was to look the other way"? Because this is definitely not what I'm seeing stare Machine gun parade in the middle of the street? confused Hurra for stray bullets neutral


Yes, but that religion and those teachings have been absolutely spat upon. How do you expect them not to be angry? You are angry when people insult China.. it's much the same principle.  
PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 3:56 pm
There was this retarded kid, he always walks home with me, well, we go in the same direction, so I guess he's not with me. He's fudging bothers me, always arguing with either me, my friend or his friends. The other day, they were on the topic of 2 divided by four. Apparently, it's now 1 =_= I said 0.5 and he called me a retarded. Think before you talk, that's the best thing parents ever teach you.
Moving on. I really can't remember what I said but something made him called China a third world country and some other s**t about it being poor and such. Well, in the end, I pretty much wanted to rip his balls off. (Yesh, I need help with anger managment...) Sadly, I can't rip anyone's balls off, well, never tried, but kicking the s**t out of him until he ran home was good enough. -feels the need to beat him up some more-
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 6:07 pm
Niphredil Ithilmir
Yes, but that religion and those teachings have been absolutely spat upon. How do you expect them not to be angry? You are angry when people insult China.. it's much the same principle.


Not true. While the satirical comic did make fun of the way some Islamic extremists are acting and yes the muslims do have a right to be less than happy about it, they do not have the right to react the way they did. True, I get mad when people insult China, but that doesn't mean I will go to China and encourage the government to be corrupt or people to accept more bribes. That is the point I'm trying to make. While the muslims can protest, the form of protest they are exhibiting is disgusting.  
PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 2:12 pm
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Niphredil Ithilmir
Yes, but that religion and those teachings have been absolutely spat upon. How do you expect them not to be angry? You are angry when people insult China.. it's much the same principle.


Not true. While the satirical comic did make fun of the way some Islamic extremists are acting and yes the muslims do have a right to be less than happy about it, they do not have the right to react the way they did. True, I get mad when people insult China, but that doesn't mean I will go to China and encourage the government to be corrupt or people to accept more bribes. That is the point I'm trying to make. While the muslims can protest, the form of protest they are exhibiting is disgusting.


No, but there are others who will. And I'm not condoning their actions, but just trying to say that I see why; of course terrorism or blowing people up and setting buildings on fire is wrong in all senses, whatever anyone has done to you, but it's not as.. unjustified as you made out originally.

@t0shi0 - China is a third world country. Comparatively, it's poorer. But we're powerful, which makes all the difference. <33

And he is such a retard. Since when has 2/4=1?! stressed  

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 3:26 pm
Niphredil Ithilmir

@t0shi0 - China is a third world country. Comparatively, it's poorer. But we're powerful, which makes all the difference. <33

And he is such a retard. Since when has 2/4=1?! stressed

Eh?! o_O -ish not well informed-
Ah well, I've been meaning to make him shut up for awhile now, so all ish well. sweatdrop
 
PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 4:41 pm
Okay. My school is very stupid. Their rules are just unfair and dumb, like "You can't kiss your boyfriend/girlfriend in school. Go outside." or we can't wear clothes that are showing skin. I know it's normal but in my school, your shirt ONLY goes a little pass your shoulder and the teachers tell you to go were a jacket! They organize childish activities like go sliding or play chess [No offense to people who like that]. >_>

I once asked to make a drawing contest for Christmas and you know what they replied!? "Drawing contest? Is there anything special or useful in that?" I replied "Well, since there's not art class in my grade, I thought we should do something and a drawing contest can interest very much people who like to draw." "Hm. No. It's not useful. I don't want to organize something that will be useless." RAWR! scream Useless? Drawing contest? No! It's to show people talent other have in drawing! They show what they can do! They express themselves through a drawing, painting or whatever! They even let some stress go away!

I hate that school. D<
 

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 4:50 pm
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Okay. My school is very stupid. Their rules are just unfair and dumb, like "You can't kiss your boyfriend/girlfriend in school. Go outside." or we can't wear clothes that are showing skin. I know it's normal but in my school, your shirt ONLY goes a little pass your shoulder and the teachers tell you to go were a jacket! They organize childish activities like go sliding or play chess [No offense to people who like that]. >_>

I once asked to make a drawing contest for Christmas and you know what they replied!? "Drawing contest? Is there anything special or useful in that?" I replied "Well, since there's not art class in my grade, I thought we should do something and a drawing contest can interest very much people who like to draw." "Hm. No. It's not useful. I don't want to organize something that will be useless." RAWR! scream Useless? Drawing contest? No! It's to show people talent other have in drawing! They show what they can do! They express themselves through a drawing, painting or whatever! They even let some stress go away!

I hate that school. D<
School sucks. End. whee

Oh yeh I got something to rant about! My pimp hat got stolen at this party on wednesday! stressed I was casually dancing with these english girls when one of them took my hat off and put it on. We continued to dance for a while, then she went to the bar while I stayed and danced with her friends. Then about 5 minutes later I went to look for her and she'd left! Damn thief!! scream  
PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 6:20 pm
Tokioka
School sucks. End. whee

Oh yeh I got something to rant about! My pimp hat got stolen at this party on wednesday! stressed I was casually dancing with these english girls when one of them took my hat off and put it on. We continued to dance for a while, then she went to the bar while I stayed and danced with her friends. Then about 5 minutes later I went to look for her and she'd left! Damn thief!! scream

You let your love of girls get the better of you.  

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 6:54 pm
t0shi0
Tokioka
School sucks. End. whee

Oh yeh I got something to rant about! My pimp hat got stolen at this party on wednesday! stressed I was casually dancing with these english girls when one of them took my hat off and put it on. We continued to dance for a while, then she went to the bar while I stayed and danced with her friends. Then about 5 minutes later I went to look for her and she'd left! Damn thief!! scream

You let your love of girls get the better of you.

yeah... everyone this ish and alert!! Tapioka is about to step over the lolita, ***** border, and enter ***** territory!!! Alert ! Alert! We have a *****!! Run for you lives!! lol jkz.  
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