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Religion out of the Gov't Civil Unions for All |
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Rainbowfied Mouse Vice Captain
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Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 4:20 pm
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Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 5:19 pm
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Rainbowfied Mouse Vice Captain
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Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 5:29 pm
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Drarksupersaiyan Rainbowfied Mouse Magus Kathrine Well, in case you didn't notice suicide is higher among gay males, along with smoking due to "stress" so it's obvious they know it's wrong, and God can change them if they try. If we encourage same-sex marriage, then we are allowing more gay people to up our suicide rates, and cause more cancer. You know, it could be because there's people out there that make them lock up uncontrollable feelings. I disagree,many gay's have gone heterosexual. If the "love" the supposedly have is uncontrollable then how are they converting?
They don't change orientation, they change behavior. They even state this in their programs. They do not become straight, they become moreso bisexual, even so their results usually end up with a small small percentage win, which is why the American Psychological Association banned the practice in modern health. It does more damage than good.
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Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 5:36 pm
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Rainbowfied Mouse Drarksupersaiyan Rainbowfied Mouse Magus Kathrine Well, in case you didn't notice suicide is higher among gay males, along with smoking due to "stress" so it's obvious they know it's wrong, and God can change them if they try. If we encourage same-sex marriage, then we are allowing more gay people to up our suicide rates, and cause more cancer. You know, it could be because there's people out there that make them lock up uncontrollable feelings. I disagree,many gay's have gone heterosexual. If the "love" the supposedly have is uncontrollable then how are they converting? They don't change orientation, they change behavior. They even state this in their programs. They do not become straight, they become moreso bisexual, even so their results usually end up with a small small percentage win, which is why the American Psychological Association banned the practice in modern health. It does more damage than good.
It must because they don't try hard enough... and they don't try because they're accepted. Notice that every half-century as laws progress for the gay community more people come out? This is because society became to acceptable. So what we need to do is make it so they know they're not being good, and send them to get changed to be straight like normal. Because some are still changing. God hates our country because of the sin we've had, and is casting his wrath because of it.
APA is not a logical argument, you're appealing to authority. Just because an organization supports something, doesn't mean that it's just.
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Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 6:12 pm
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Rainbowfied Mouse Drarksupersaiyan Rainbowfied Mouse Magus Kathrine Well, in case you didn't notice suicide is higher among gay males, along with smoking due to "stress" so it's obvious they know it's wrong, and God can change them if they try. If we encourage same-sex marriage, then we are allowing more gay people to up our suicide rates, and cause more cancer. You know, it could be because there's people out there that make them lock up uncontrollable feelings. I disagree,many gay's have gone heterosexual. If the "love" the supposedly have is uncontrollable then how are they converting? They don't change orientation, they change behavior. They even state this in their programs. They do not become straight, they become moreso bisexual, even so their results usually end up with a small small percentage win, which is why the American Psychological Association banned the practice in modern health. It does more damage than good.
You have no proof to say that their not straight. I know people who were gay and they switched. Now they are proud straight people who attend Anti-Gay Rights rallies and have kids and wives. Do I know indefinitely their straight. No. But do actions speak louder then words yes.
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Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 7:55 am
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American Psychological Association Is homosexuality a mental disorder?No, lesbian, gay, and bisexual orientations are not disorders. Research has found no inherent association between any of these sexual orientations and psychopathology. Both heterosexual behavior and homosexual behavior are normal aspects of human sexuality. Both have been documented in many different cultures and historical eras. Despite the persistence of stereotypes that portray lesbian, gay, and bisexual people as disturbed, several decades of research and clinical experience have led all mainstream medical and mental health organizations in this country to conclude that these orientations represent normal forms of human experience. Lesbian, gay, and bisexual relationships are normal forms of human bonding. Therefore, these mainstream organizations long ago abandoned classifications of homosexuality as a mental disorder. What about therapy intended to change sexual orientation from gay to straight?All major national mental health organizations have officially expressed concerns about therapies promoted to modify sexual orientation. To date, there has been no scientifically adequate research to show that therapy aimed at changing sexual orientation (sometimes called reparative or conversion therapy) is safe or effective. Furthermore, it seems likely that the promotion of change therapies reinforces stereotypes and contributes to a negative climate for lesbian, gay, and bisexual persons. This appears to be especially likely for lesbian, gay, and bisexual individuals who grow up in more conservative religious settings. x
You may also want to read here why it doesn't work!
As for your little anti-gay person that "changed"
Psychology Today The authors investigated the role of homosexual arousal in exclusively heterosexual men who admitted negative affect toward homosexual individuals. Participants consisted of a group of homophobic men (n = 35) and a group of nonhomophobic men (n = 29); they were assigned to groups on the basis of their scores on the Index of Homophobia (W. W. Hudson & W. A. Ricketts, 1980). The men were exposed to sexually explicit erotic stimuli consisting of heterosexual, male homosexual, and lesbian videotapes, and changes in penile circumference were monitored. They also completed an Aggression Questionnaire (A. H. Buss & M. Perry, 1992). Both groups exhibited increases in penile circumference to the heterosexual and female homosexual videos. Only the homophobic men showed an increase in penile erection to male homosexual stimuli. The groups did not differ in aggression. Homophobia is apparently associated with homosexual arousal that the homophobic individual is either unaware of or denies. x
I also have evidence if you decide to show any statistics from these organizations to show it is false.
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Rainbowfied Mouse Vice Captain
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Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 4:56 pm
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Rainbowfied Mouse American Psychological Association Is homosexuality a mental disorder?No, lesbian, gay, and bisexual orientations are not disorders. Research has found no inherent association between any of these sexual orientations and psychopathology. Both heterosexual behavior and homosexual behavior are normal aspects of human sexuality. Both have been documented in many different cultures and historical eras. Despite the persistence of stereotypes that portray lesbian, gay, and bisexual people as disturbed, several decades of research and clinical experience have led all mainstream medical and mental health organizations in this country to conclude that these orientations represent normal forms of human experience. Lesbian, gay, and bisexual relationships are normal forms of human bonding. Therefore, these mainstream organizations long ago abandoned classifications of homosexuality as a mental disorder. What about therapy intended to change sexual orientation from gay to straight?All major national mental health organizations have officially expressed concerns about therapies promoted to modify sexual orientation. To date, there has been no scientifically adequate research to show that therapy aimed at changing sexual orientation (sometimes called reparative or conversion therapy) is safe or effective. Furthermore, it seems likely that the promotion of change therapies reinforces stereotypes and contributes to a negative climate for lesbian, gay, and bisexual persons. This appears to be especially likely for lesbian, gay, and bisexual individuals who grow up in more conservative religious settings. x You may also want to read here why it doesn't work! As for your little anti-gay person that "changed" Psychology Today The authors investigated the role of homosexual arousal in exclusively heterosexual men who admitted negative affect toward homosexual individuals. Participants consisted of a group of homophobic men (n = 35) and a group of nonhomophobic men (n = 29); they were assigned to groups on the basis of their scores on the Index of Homophobia (W. W. Hudson & W. A. Ricketts, 1980). The men were exposed to sexually explicit erotic stimuli consisting of heterosexual, male homosexual, and lesbian videotapes, and changes in penile circumference were monitored. They also completed an Aggression Questionnaire (A. H. Buss & M. Perry, 1992). Both groups exhibited increases in penile circumference to the heterosexual and female homosexual videos. Only the homophobic men showed an increase in penile erection to male homosexual stimuli. The groups did not differ in aggression. Homophobia is apparently associated with homosexual arousal that the homophobic individual is either unaware of or denies. xI also have evidence if you decide to show any statistics from these organizations to show it is false.
What type of evidence
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Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 9:41 pm
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Drarksupersaiyan Rainbowfied Mouse American Psychological Association Is homosexuality a mental disorder?No, lesbian, gay, and bisexual orientations are not disorders. Research has found no inherent association between any of these sexual orientations and psychopathology. Both heterosexual behavior and homosexual behavior are normal aspects of human sexuality. Both have been documented in many different cultures and historical eras. Despite the persistence of stereotypes that portray lesbian, gay, and bisexual people as disturbed, several decades of research and clinical experience have led all mainstream medical and mental health organizations in this country to conclude that these orientations represent normal forms of human experience. Lesbian, gay, and bisexual relationships are normal forms of human bonding. Therefore, these mainstream organizations long ago abandoned classifications of homosexuality as a mental disorder. What about therapy intended to change sexual orientation from gay to straight?All major national mental health organizations have officially expressed concerns about therapies promoted to modify sexual orientation. To date, there has been no scientifically adequate research to show that therapy aimed at changing sexual orientation (sometimes called reparative or conversion therapy) is safe or effective. Furthermore, it seems likely that the promotion of change therapies reinforces stereotypes and contributes to a negative climate for lesbian, gay, and bisexual persons. This appears to be especially likely for lesbian, gay, and bisexual individuals who grow up in more conservative religious settings. x You may also want to read here why it doesn't work! As for your little anti-gay person that "changed" Psychology Today The authors investigated the role of homosexual arousal in exclusively heterosexual men who admitted negative affect toward homosexual individuals. Participants consisted of a group of homophobic men (n = 35) and a group of nonhomophobic men (n = 29); they were assigned to groups on the basis of their scores on the Index of Homophobia (W. W. Hudson & W. A. Ricketts, 1980). The men were exposed to sexually explicit erotic stimuli consisting of heterosexual, male homosexual, and lesbian videotapes, and changes in penile circumference were monitored. They also completed an Aggression Questionnaire (A. H. Buss & M. Perry, 1992). Both groups exhibited increases in penile circumference to the heterosexual and female homosexual videos. Only the homophobic men showed an increase in penile erection to male homosexual stimuli. The groups did not differ in aggression. Homophobia is apparently associated with homosexual arousal that the homophobic individual is either unaware of or denies. xI also have evidence if you decide to show any statistics from these organizations to show it is false. What type of evidence
When you prove science wrong, I'll show you.
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Rainbowfied Mouse Vice Captain
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Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 10:35 pm
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Rainbowfied Mouse Drarksupersaiyan Rainbowfied Mouse American Psychological Association Is homosexuality a mental disorder?No, lesbian, gay, and bisexual orientations are not disorders. Research has found no inherent association between any of these sexual orientations and psychopathology. Both heterosexual behavior and homosexual behavior are normal aspects of human sexuality. Both have been documented in many different cultures and historical eras. Despite the persistence of stereotypes that portray lesbian, gay, and bisexual people as disturbed, several decades of research and clinical experience have led all mainstream medical and mental health organizations in this country to conclude that these orientations represent normal forms of human experience. Lesbian, gay, and bisexual relationships are normal forms of human bonding. Therefore, these mainstream organizations long ago abandoned classifications of homosexuality as a mental disorder. What about therapy intended to change sexual orientation from gay to straight?All major national mental health organizations have officially expressed concerns about therapies promoted to modify sexual orientation. To date, there has been no scientifically adequate research to show that therapy aimed at changing sexual orientation (sometimes called reparative or conversion therapy) is safe or effective. Furthermore, it seems likely that the promotion of change therapies reinforces stereotypes and contributes to a negative climate for lesbian, gay, and bisexual persons. This appears to be especially likely for lesbian, gay, and bisexual individuals who grow up in more conservative religious settings. x You may also want to read here why it doesn't work! As for your little anti-gay person that "changed" Psychology Today The authors investigated the role of homosexual arousal in exclusively heterosexual men who admitted negative affect toward homosexual individuals. Participants consisted of a group of homophobic men (n = 35) and a group of nonhomophobic men (n = 29); they were assigned to groups on the basis of their scores on the Index of Homophobia (W. W. Hudson & W. A. Ricketts, 1980). The men were exposed to sexually explicit erotic stimuli consisting of heterosexual, male homosexual, and lesbian videotapes, and changes in penile circumference were monitored. They also completed an Aggression Questionnaire (A. H. Buss & M. Perry, 1992). Both groups exhibited increases in penile circumference to the heterosexual and female homosexual videos. Only the homophobic men showed an increase in penile erection to male homosexual stimuli. The groups did not differ in aggression. Homophobia is apparently associated with homosexual arousal that the homophobic individual is either unaware of or denies. xI also have evidence if you decide to show any statistics from these organizations to show it is false. What type of evidence When you prove science wrong, I'll show you.
I'd like the evidence before I go on a rant. In my opinion going to a physiologist doesn't work. When I went because of depression due 4 deaths in the family within the same year. All he did was told me to try and get more guy friends and to not turn to cutting. Did this help, no. What did help was religion. I turned to Christianity and I have actually felt right as rain because I live by guidelines instead of having no limitations and rules o apply to my lifestyle. Like sexual absence, treat others the way you want to be treated, reap what you sew.
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Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 5:10 am
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Drarksupersaiyan I'd like the evidence before I go on a rant. In my opinion going to a physiologist doesn't work. When I went because of depression due 4 deaths in the family within the same year.
You see a counselor, a therapist, or a psychiatrist... physiology is a whole other subject.
Quote: All he did was told me to try and get more guy friends and to not turn to cutting. Did this help, no.
If you seen a psychiatrist, you would have gotten pills, not recommendations, this makes it apparent that you seen a counselor [whom cannot prescribe medication.] And this would be your parents fault, as the counselor would legally have to compromise your feelings and have your parents send you to a psychiatrist.
Quote: What did help was religion. I turned to Christianity
That's great, because I know some Muslims, Jews, Wiccans, and many other religions with the same experience.
Quote: I live by guidelines instead of having no limitations and rules o apply to my lifestyle.
Well I'm glad that works for you, but I'm much more content not following rules set by a church that's been corrupt for hundreds of centuries.
Quote: Like sexual absence, treat others the way you want to be treated, reap what you sew.
Yep, and homosexuals have the ability to treat others just as equally.
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Rainbowfied Mouse Vice Captain
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Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 8:13 am
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Rainbowfied Mouse Drarksupersaiyan I'd like the evidence before I go on a rant. In my opinion going to a physiologist doesn't work. When I went because of depression due 4 deaths in the family within the same year. You see a counselor, a therapist, or a psychiatrist... physiology is a whole other subject. Quote: All he did was told me to try and get more guy friends and to not turn to cutting. Did this help, no. If you seen a psychiatrist, you would have gotten pills, not recommendations, this makes it apparent that you seen a counselor [whom cannot prescribe medication.] And this would be your parents fault, as the counselor would legally have to compromise your feelings and have your parents send you to a psychiatrist. Quote: What did help was religion. I turned to Christianity That's great, because I know some Muslims, Jews, Wiccans, and many other religions with the same experience. Quote: I live by guidelines instead of having no limitations and rules o apply to my lifestyle. Well I'm glad that works for you, but I'm much more content not following rules set by a church that's been corrupt for hundreds of centuries. Quote: Like sexual absence, treat others the way you want to be treated, reap what you sew. Yep, and homosexuals have the ability to treat others just as equally.
He did assign me pills but my parents refused because of the fact that I may become dependent on the pills to be happy.
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Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 9:05 am
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Drarksupersaiyan Rainbowfied Mouse Drarksupersaiyan I'd like the evidence before I go on a rant. In my opinion going to a physiologist doesn't work. When I went because of depression due 4 deaths in the family within the same year. You see a counselor, a therapist, or a psychiatrist... physiology is a whole other subject. Quote: All he did was told me to try and get more guy friends and to not turn to cutting. Did this help, no. If you seen a psychiatrist, you would have gotten pills, not recommendations, this makes it apparent that you seen a counselor [whom cannot prescribe medication.] And this would be your parents fault, as the counselor would legally have to compromise your feelings and have your parents send you to a psychiatrist. Quote: What did help was religion. I turned to Christianity That's great, because I know some Muslims, Jews, Wiccans, and many other religions with the same experience. Quote: I live by guidelines instead of having no limitations and rules o apply to my lifestyle. Well I'm glad that works for you, but I'm much more content not following rules set by a church that's been corrupt for hundreds of centuries. Quote: Like sexual absence, treat others the way you want to be treated, reap what you sew. Yep, and homosexuals have the ability to treat others just as equally. He did assign me pills but my parents refused because of the fact that I may become dependent on the pills to be happy.
In that case you can't blame the psychiatrist for your parents interfering with an important professional medical decision.
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Rainbowfied Mouse Vice Captain
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Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 9:36 pm
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Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 6:53 am
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Rainbowfied Mouse Vice Captain
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Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 9:20 pm
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