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First of all I almost fell out of my chair in laughter with that quote its a good one. Next a woman's looks to me is like a perk if anything. I need substance before looks. Now if there's substance and looks I will be up all night praising God for blessing me lol.

But in all seriousness, I need intelligence. I don't care how beautiful or desirable she is, if she uses the word 'like' more than three times in a sentence then we part ways. If they care about the newest Gucci or Prada or whatever over the plight of our economy then bye bye. If they can't distinguish the Queen of England from the Prime Minister then sayonara. In terms of looks? Well I'm a guy, no denying that there are certain looks that I prefer over others but overall if she has a nice face to look at and a voice thats pleasant then I'm happy. Size never struck me as important, but don't get me wrong there. Big boned and just plain obesity are two different things in my book, also ideally she would be a brunette with caramel colored skin but thats what I would like. Though even if she had all of the above with the exception of intelligence then still it would be over.

Still chortling over that quote, who said it?

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Woman = female human who has been through puberty and has some level of mental and emotional maturity.
Wisdom and intelligence don't matter to the subject so much, as they often come with age, but don't neccessarily have to.
(There are some very intelligent and wise children... Far more than they probably need to be. But they're still children and therefore cannot be considered 'man' or 'woman', except by gender as a whole.)

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I'm glad this is a topic too. I in no way believe women are below, or above men, but both are essential and should work together. I'm a Christian, and from my view point Proverbs 31 is the perfect defintion of what a woman should be. It talks about a woman of great strength of character. She takes care of her family, helps and comforts her husband through thick and thin, and never complains. It goes on about her, but one thing it never mentions is what she looks like. Don't get me wrong, I in no way think being pretty is a sin or something, I spend just as much time in-front of the mirror as the next girl, but beauty doesn't last. Beauty of character, however, does. I think a woman should respect herself greatly, and those around her. That she should be a shoulder for someone to cry one, and be gentle. Also, a woman should be easy-going (but not a door mat or push-over) and laugh a lot and have fun. heart

Well, I view the term woman much differently from the term man. Because I don't really see girls, striving become just women, like boys spend most a lot of time trying to prove themselves as men. Like girls, want to be a ____ woman, whilst the word man, includes everything a man should be. There are different types of women, like a strong woman, a lady, a graceful woman, and people don't normally say "oh he's a strong man" they just call him a man if he has all the qualities of a man. So while every girl will become essentially a woman because they're biologically programmed to, whether or not they have the traits or a virtuous or strong woman, depends. Do I know how to define a strong or virtuous woman? Not really. I just figure maturity and and wisdom go into it.

Ohoyenrei (or whatever your name is..sorry) was making a really good point. We need to consider what we mean when we say what makes a man or a woman.. who decided anyway that certain attributes would automatically fall in line with whether or not you have a p***s or a v****a.. or in some cases both or neither.

sure we can talk about what sorts of things we admire in personality.. but all the same consider that we are conditioned to associate certain characteristics to full breasted, p***s-less entities that carry children.

I think you really need to buckle down and consider, what the ******** makes a woman and a man. i mean.. REALLY makes a woman and a man. Not "aggressive behaviour" or a "sweet disposition".. but honestly. Gender is a socially constructed division that we use to distinguish between what is male or female, and by process of elimination what is ultimately NOT male or female. You aren't male because you have a p***s, you are male because you AREN'T female, and vice versa. Gender theory 101.

So what makes a woman.. or a man? Whomever it was that decided personality traits were tied to sex.

I agree with pailzor and I'll say 'HUH?'