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 Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 12:24 am
Delete this if it's breaking TOS, but I don't consider marijuana a drug, since it is technically just an herb. Either way, if I shouldn't have posted this, then I apologize.
Moving on, I'd like to know the opinions from the collective on this topic, as it is widely debated. From my experience, it is true that most of the Gaia users are "Straight Edge", or at least anti-drugs. So I'd like to know why.
Also, I'd like to tell you all about a book called "The Emperor Wears No Clothes" by Jack Herer.
I can't tell you how great a book this is, whether or not you are a supporter of marijuana. This book focuses more on the economical gain that the country would have if they decided to raise hemp farms again (yes, that's right, again). I'm sure you could read it online, as the book has been released and updated 10 times in its 23 years of running. It is complete factual information on how the farming of hemp as a natural resource for making paper, plastic, replacing bricks and rope, among many other things. Anyway, I'm rambling. At least check it out. It is very interesting.
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Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 2:32 pm
Legalize it, simple. This anti Marijuana stance that many countries are holding is the same one we had on Prohibition and look at where it got the U.S. This war on drugs has gotten us nowhere fast, we're imprisoning people for a public health problem not a criminal problem. The government will never win against weed, and will never make any substantial changes on the stuff, they'll get as far as they got banning alcohol. Plus there are so many medical properties that we haven't discovered yet inside the cannibus plant. It would be best just to legalize the stuff. Put it this way, a fifth of gin is worse for your body than a kilo of the green stuff.
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Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 3:50 pm
if you think about it, it is just an herb so theres no reasonto not legalize it. though many people might use it for things that aren't good, it can be used as an antidepressant of small doses. this could be the chance of a life time. dramallama
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Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 7:00 pm
istalkyouall if you think about it, it is just an herb so theres no reasonto not legalize it. though many people might use it for things that aren't good, it can be used as an antidepressant of small doses. this could be the chance of a life time. dramallama so what you and the guy above you are saying is that we should just grow poppey seeds and allow people to smoke it without any harm to our society. THAT IS WRONG AND I DO NOT AGREE WITH YOU.
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Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 12:03 pm
Ooooh we grow a few poppy plants and we're all doomed. And what the hell do opium poppies have to do with the legalization of marijuana? Please at least know the terminology, next of all alcohol is far worse than both poppies and marijuana put together and it is legalized. The only reason for its illegalization is the fact that a company cannot monopolize it for themselves. A kilo of marijuana is less damaging to the body than a fifth of gin or a pack of cigs for that matter. The war on drugs is a farce, a sham in its entirety meant to cripple other countries economies for neo imperialist interests. Examples of those crippled countries? Colombia, Afghanistan, Myanmmar, and even the United States itself. You want proof that its better to legalize this stuff? Look at the American Prohibition. As a result of outlawing alcohol what happened? Do you know? Do you honestly know?
I'll tell you. Al Capone, Meyer Lansky, Lucky Luciano, and others rose to prominence. I'm referring to organized crime if your limited brain hasn't been able to keep up with me. Do you know what happened when the Congress repealed it? Their power was cut substantially and they had to focus on other unnecessary illegalizations such as heroin, cocaine, marijuana, gambling (all of which incidently are in the same position as alcohol during the time of the Prohibition). Do you see where I'm coming from here? We preach the end of these drug lords, mafia dons, crime on the streets and give them all the weapons to keep going with more power. By making these things illegal the prices for the goods soar out the a** and they become rich and thus harder to eliminate, capture, kill, or whatever.
Now here's the logic, in order to capture the criminals or to stop them from rising why not legalize the substance that they are dealing in? With legalization the prices of the substances drop to near nothing thus ending the criminal cash flow, with this we can stop the killings of innocent people by murderers like Pablo Escobar, the Gambino crime family, the cartels, the yakuzas, the terrorists (who draw millions upon millions from the cultivation of the opium poppy which would be all but worthless were it legalized), and thugs.
Now psychologically why did Adam and Eve partake in the fruit of knowledge? Because it looked cool? Because they could? All answers equal no. Because it was forbidden is the answer. As humans we have always been drawn to the things that we cannot always have. As children its petty trivial things like more television time, sweets, the new toy gun that came out. As adolescents its sex, alcohol, and drugs. As adults its affairs with another person, buying frivolously, etc... To the obese on a diet it is food. Do you in all your wisdom voyager454 see the correlations? Because it is "forbidden" to us we want it more. Think for a second why we have such a terrible alcohol problem in comparison to Germany and France which allows their children access to alcohol. They don't get wasted at parties to have fun unlike the adolesence and adults of America who have been conditioned to believe that it is cool to have these things in excess, thus there aren't nearly as many alcoholics there as opposed to us. So we eliminate the mystique of drugs, alcohol, gambling, and even prostitution (though I loathe prostitution with all my heart) which is its inaccesibility to the law.
Eliminating that shine destroys the Scarface persona, the wild gangster life, the coolness, and sophistication associated with these substances and acts. Why? Because its allowed and when we can do something we really don't want to at all.
You seem to assoiciate the legalization of substances as the prelude to our demise. While I agree that drugs are terrible and harmful (I take it even to the point to where I have never and will never take them) we must look at the bigger picture. Eliminating the crime on the streets and the global scale crime requires us to take steps, we must legalize the machines of cash flow for these people in order to destroy their economic power. And trust me with no money they have no power.
The prelude to our own destruction is not substance. The prelude to our own destruction comes when a society is bent on fanatacism and becomes dependent on the evils we sought to only push away and ignore instead of destroy and in my opinion THAT IS WRONG.
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Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 9:29 am
******** ADAM AND EVE THEY HAVE NOTYHING TO DO WITH IT!
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Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 11:04 am
Your right Adam and Eve have nothing to do with this. I was simply using it as an allegorical example to prove my point and as I can see right now and in the other debate you're just as slow witted and short sighted as you are vulgar. I have nothing more to say to you because you don't take the time to give a proper reasonable response nor do you at least give decent spelling. I suggest you find somewhere else to post your random butcherings of the English language and find others that are more to your level of intelligence and writing. I suggest turkey's for your intellectual pleasure, they would most definitely stimulate your brain, just leave the rest of us who want to have an exchange of ideas and beliefs alone and go take your profanity as well.
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Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 4:50 pm
marijuanna. even though it is a herb it is very very unhealthy. anways smoking and drugs are for sluts.
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Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 8:59 am
 sadly the plant is the cure of 3 cancers. it has been medically proven to prevent cancer for cancer warned victims. (african countries use it) it also maye be able to reverse the affect of lung cancer if the toxic fumes of the smoke was filtered with nitrogen plug. it freezes the THC and uses it to unclog the valves in the lungs. (proven) I don't have any documentation for it but you can look for info if you want. Ron Paul wants to legalize it. vote for him for a better future and more money . legal weed equals no more taxes taken for the war on drugs.
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Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 9:32 am
Pot head, eh? Whatever floats your boat, lady, just don't overdose and you're fine enough.
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Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 10:16 am
Mike the Gimp Pot head, eh? Whatever floats your boat, lady, just don't overdose and you're fine enough. cycozombie4 marijuana. even though it is a herb it is very very unhealthy. anyways smoking and drugs are for sluts
What is wrong with smoking and drinking and how are earth is someone a slut just because they enjoy a nice hooka or a glass of good wine with their food on occasion? Or did you mean people who go to parties and do it in excess? Because i fail to see how that makes some one a slut. And why should it matter if they are? That is their business, not yours, why should it bother you?
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Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 6:12 pm
if cigarrets are legal and they kill more people than marijuana than why should pot be illegal. either make pot legal or make cigaretts illegal
I agree to this statement... Plus Alcohol is more dangerous than Pot too... Actually any addiction isn't healthy unless its healthy for you... I think that if a person is dying of a disease,(like my mom of cancer) they give them so many pills with so many side effects, why not give them something herbal to ease the pain of death rather then make it worse with all the side effects of manufactored medication.... Herbal medication all the way!!
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Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 3:49 pm
Alright Already...I Am One Of Those Cases Of Someone Who Used Marijuana For A While. It Happened To Ruin My Relationship With My Ex-Girlfriend(I Apoligized And Were Talking Again, Yet To Hear If Im Forgiven), Who Happens To Hate Drinking And Drugs. I Decided It Would Be Best To Throw Out My Alchohol, And Throw My Marijuana Into A Lake, With It In A Bag, Tied To A Rock. So It Wouldn't Be Inappropriate To Say, Marijuana Ruined The Best Part Of My Life. I Dont Care If You For It Or Against It. If Your Loved Ones Don't Like It, Get Rid Of It. ...We'll All Float On, Alright?
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Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 6:54 pm
It is coming to the point in California that they may legalize it for the money aspect of it. Granted, there will be numerous restrictions on it and such. To grow you would need a license, to sell another one, these both costing a fair amount. Plus, a tax on it. It would help stimulate California's economy a bit. Though, the image of California will be further tarnished. To buy you would have to be of a certain age. This will no doubt cause problems, most likely resulting in what is done with alcohol. Teens are still getting it. Legalization of it will not make it less abundant. Though I think that if they do legalize it, they will have to have smoking zones for it as well. Then, there would be another legal issue with legalizing it. Though it may be easier. There are all the dealers and abusers in prisons. What happens to them in California if they are in prison when they (might) legalize it? Do they stay in, do we let them out? Put them on parole? Granted, it would only be for marijuana, not other drugs (speed, coke, oxy, E, etc.).
As for the straight edge part, my reason for being edge is because I was pretty much screwed up when I was younger. Though I have never smoked, I have ingested weed, coke, and shrooms. When I was fourteen I got clean after a particularly bad overdose. Since then, though I discourage drugs, I won't look down on people who do them, as that is just hypocritical. I try to help them, though. I don't think the legalization of marijuana will help.
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