I think I have found the Giovanni offspring!

[Nethilia]

It's a theory, so I could be full of it. Whatever.

In FireRed, after you beat the scientist to get the Sapphire (long complicated plot goes here!) you then talk to him. He'll give you a nice little fact for your Fact Checker.

"You..you're not Giovanni's kid, are you? No, that can't be right. Giovanni's kid has red hair." (emphasis mine) And what's the running trait of your rival in G/S/C? That's right. His red hair. It's the first thing they point out about him, as a matter of fact.

There's some backstory here, Nintendo! Start spilling!  

[JAPANIMEK]

There are lots of hints in these games that link them all together...

I wonder what diamond and pearl will uncover?  

[Jishin]

I thought it was established a long time ago that Gary/Red is Giovanni's kid? *shakes her head* Maybe I'm wrong.  

[Trumpster]

He's professor Oak's grandson, that would make Giovanni Oak's kid. eek  

[Jishin]

Trumpster

He's professor Oak's grandson, that would make Giovanni Oak's kid. eek

No, it could make Gary's mom Oak's kid.  

[Andy1989]

Wait...it'll look like this...Correct?

Oak
|
Giovanni
|
Gary  

[Jishin]

Andy1989

Wait...it'll look like this...Correct?

Oak
|
Giovanni
|
Gary

Or:

Oak
|
Gary's Mom -- Giovanni
|
Gary  

[Panda.Ba]

Well, with all this, Gary being Oak's son doesn't dismiss the idea that your rival in G/S/C isn't Giovanni's kid. Now, Jishin's model would make perfect sense is this, so I'll use hers.

Oak has a daughter. That daughter falls in love with Giovanni. Together they have Gary/Daisy (Is that the right name?). But why does it seem like Giovanni and Oak are on different sides? And why are Giovanni's children with Oak instead of him?

Maybe because something hapened to Oak's daughter/Giovanni's wife. This may, in fact, the the event that made Giovanni into such an evil person. Oak would not trust this evil man with his grandchildren, so he took the kids. Now, after his wife is gone, Giovanni may have looked for solace from someone like himself, evil. This woman and he had a son. That would be your rival. Growing up with such disrespect for pokemon coming from both his parents, he becomes evil himself and this temperament is shown by his actions in G/S/C.

Thus, your rival is Gary and Daisy's half-brother and Giovanni's son. But not Oak's Grandson.




...did my logic make any sense at all? sweatdrop  

[Odango Usagi]

But... what about Madam Boss (Gio's/Sakaki's mom, who is only featured in the CD dramas)?  

[Sui Kune]

So that would make (at least according to my theory):

Oak - (Ash's mom)
|
(Ash) / Gary's mom - Giovanni
|
Gary

That would make Giovanni Ash's brother! xd  

[[Philosophy In A Teacup]]

Sui Kune

So that would make (at least according to my theory):

Oak - (Ash's mom)
|
(Ash) / Gary's mom - Giovanni
|
Gary

That would make Giovanni Ash's brother! xd

eek  

[Jishin]

People have indeed argued that. whee Me, I don't think so .... well .... actually, given their respective attitudes, maybe they are related.  

[Aoi Hikari]

@@;;; dude. So that makes Gary Ash's....nephew? better then Ash being his half uncle, I suppose, but that still nuls the idea of Palletshippying..


Ya know, I do wonder what the hell Ash say to all this....

Ash:......wha?


....yep, that works, me thinks. xd  

[Sui Kune]

Reminds me of a theory I once heard that Misty is Brock's non-squinty sister.... (think about it: his mom is named Mizuho [mizu = Japanese for water], loves Water Pokemon, has red hair.....) Another thing to think about. eek  

[Brock Takeshi]

....Oh GOD, not ANOTHER ONE!!! gonk gonk crying crying