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PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2008 4:40 pm


Who will it be?

John McCain

Hillary Clinton

or

Barack Obama
PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2008 8:28 pm


I think the better question would be...which person would provide a positive change for our country?

John McCain I believe is completely out of the question. We all know what will happen if we let Bush's party back into the White House? More war, and more war spending. Not what we need. We need to pull out of the country after being there for as long as we've been. Too many American lives have been lost.

Between Obama and Hilary, they aren't the best candidates either. The reason? Their pasts, and the fact they just can't get along. They've been attacking each other throughout the campaign(mainly Hilary to Barack). If they can't get along, how will they cope with other countries they disagree with? It is a childish game of "am not, are too". Plust their backgrounds threaten to undermine their campaign. For Barack, his former pastor, whose support he has denied and rennounced because of his comments, and for Hilary, her husband Bill who was involved in a affair years back when he was president.

However things are looking up for Barack, Hilary is behind in super delegate count, and officials believe she has absolutely no chance of coming back. Plus, might I mention Hillary continues to fund her campaign, despite being in debt to her sponserer's and supporters. Bad move on her part.

But, for the best interests of the country, I will have to say Barack. If he isn't elected what will the other countries think of America? They will probably believe that America hasn't changed the last 200 years. We were given the oppurtunity for change and we carelessly pushed it aside.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 8:04 pm


Frankly I think that neither candidate is the best for our country and I myself am a little worried as to what they are going to do in office. From the beginning although they didn't say it aloud you could tell Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton were trying to use race and gender to their advantage.... it seems as though the Presidential Race was more a race to win than a race to lead our Nation. It's a pity what the US has turned into really.

Although the War in Iraq may not seem to be doing anything what it comes down to in my opinion is that if we weren't there they'd be here. Not to mention everyone deserves a chance at freedom.

Also I believe that everyone deserves a chance at freedom but they have to obtain it rightfully. That is why I am against amnesty for illegal immigrants. They have broken the law and should not be allowed to do so. Many other immigrants have had to wait years longer than what they should have to get into this country. The forefathers of this nation would be ashamed to see it today in my personal opinion.

On the issue of creating jobs, I do agree we need to make more jobs here in the country but others rely on us to give them resources they cannot produce themselves so there should be more of a balance between in-country and out-sourced jobs. I also think that it would be helpful to our economy if we had more of a balance so that we could produce more but also sell more goods to other countries.

Finally, to solve the issue of gas prices I believe we should use the same tactics we used when inflation hit during the 1970s where businesses cannot charge more than a set price until the economy grows again.

Truthfully, I think McCain is better because he is the lesser of two evils so to speak. I do not trust Barack Obama fully and I dont support all of his views but when it comes down to it I believe neither is the best for our country.
PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 10:14 am


I would stand in line for this

First off, John McCain has actually been in a war. If you'll notice, almost all presidents who were in wars (the firsts excluded) have not sent the country to war.

Second, it was not George Bush's fault that we went to war. Would you have rather sat around and did nothing after 9/11? Would you have preferred Mr. Bush to go, "Oh, the radical Muslims just blew up several of our most important buildings. Ho hum, well, I'm gonna go make some mashed potatoes." Think about it folks. I know that not all believers of Islam believe that they have to destroy everyone who isn't a Muslim, but some of them sure do and they want the US gone.

Third, Obama wants to decommission all of our nuclear weapons. Those are our main defense right now. Without nukes, it'd be like someone bringing a slingshot into a machine gun fight. China, Iran and pretty much every other country that has anything to do with anything has nuclear weapons. Many of them have blatantly said they hate the US and without our nuclear weapons we'd be more open for attack than we already are.

Fourth, Obama will not even observe the Pledge of Allegiance. He just stands there. This may not seem like a big deal to some, but it pretty well pisses me off. He could at least stand with his hand on his heart to show respect.

Fifth, have you seen the new jail in Chicago?! It's more like a ******** country club than a maximum security prison. Obama's doing. Hardened murderers and rapists get three square meals with snacks, cable TV, a full gym, a cell all to themselves with a bathroom, and a window view of pretty fields.

Sixth, Obama says that he's black and whatnot. Nope, his daddy was Arabic with like 12.5% African heritage and his mama was white. Black? I think not.

Obama = bullshit.

McCain > Obama.
The end.

Hildr

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 4:25 pm


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I would stand in line for this

First off, John McCain has actually been in a war. If you'll notice, almost all presidents who were in wars (the firsts excluded) have not sent the country to war.

Second, it was not George Bush's fault that we went to war. Would you have rather sat around and did nothing after 9/11? Would you have preferred Mr. Bush to go, "Oh, the radical Muslims just blew up several of our most important buildings. Ho hum, well, I'm gonna go make some mashed potatoes." Think about it folks. I know that not all believers of Islam believe that they have to destroy everyone who isn't a Muslim, but some of them sure do and they want the US gone.

Third, Obama wants to decommission all of our nuclear weapons. Those are our main defense right now. Without nukes, it'd be like someone bringing a slingshot into a machine gun fight. China, Iran and pretty much every other country that has anything to do with anything has nuclear weapons. Many of them have blatantly said they hate the US and without our nuclear weapons we'd be more open for attack than we already are.

Fourth, Obama will not even observe the Pledge of Allegiance. He just stands there. This may not seem like a big deal to some, but it pretty well pisses me off. He could at least stand with his hand on his heart to show respect.

Fifth, have you seen the new jail in Chicago?! It's more like a ******** country club than a maximum security prison. Obama's doing. Hardened murderers and rapists get three square meals with snacks, cable TV, a full gym, a cell all to themselves with a bathroom, and a window view of pretty fields.

Sixth, Obama says that he's black and whatnot. Nope, his daddy was Arabic with like 12.5% African heritage and his mama was white. Black? I think not.

Obama = bullshit.

McCain > Obama.
The end.

Big whoop if he's been in a war. Bush was "In a war" and he has, what do ya know, led us into a war. Shocking.

Sure, not completely his fault, but as president, he has decided that he will take the responsibility of the countries mistakes on his shoulders. And most people will agree that it wasn't bad when it first started, as we were doing good for another country (and why can't we do that for our own country?), but then it got out of hand. And what are we doing? Spending loads of money on something half the nation probably knows hardly anything about, as they believe anything he media tells them to believe.

Nukes suck. But, as we would be open to attack if we didn't have them, it is a touchy subject. If their was a worldwide agreement that every country had to get rid of them and whatnot, that would be great. But I don't see that happening anytime soon. And if it did, where would all that nuclear waste go? But, as it is now, nuclear plants are a hazard to the country. If one melts down, we are not in good shape. But America can certainly cut back on the amount we have, as we have plenty to wipe some of the hateful countries off the face of the earth. And sure, they hate us, but don't we hate them as well?

Well, he does. That is just further proving my point that people are believing what ever the media shoves in front of them. And even if he didn't, there are tons of Americans who do not do the Pledge.

And what are we supposed to do? Starve them? Torture them? Give them the death penalty? The death penalty is pointless. So what? We can kill you and that's it. No more suffering for your crimes. It just ends, and you don't have to pay for it. Besides, the ones that are really dangerous are not given much human contact. Most don't get a TV. It's the one's whose crimes are less severe. That they will one day get released back into society.

So what? Why should that matter? He is black, even if it isn't by much, he still is. I don't care what the ethnicity of the next president is, as long as they are good and can pick us up out of this hole the Bush Administration has dug us into.

McCain sucks. Obama wouldn't have been my first choice, it would have been Hilary, but now that she's out, Obama is the best bet to get America out of dodge.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 9:45 am


I'm not sure. Only time will tell, but I think people want someone who wont mess everything up.

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Ladykiller

PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 11:26 am


I still don't like either of them that much, but I hate Sarah Palin, so now it is Obama all the way.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 3:35 pm


McCain.

Regardless.

If Obama does win, he will be assassinated, no question.

A handful of people have already been arrested who admitted that they were going to attempt to assassinate Barack Obama.


And had all of the necessary tools.




His presidency wont last, if he's elected, when he's already under attack now.

SuperCock


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Ladykiller

PostPosted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 4:14 pm


I would hate if McCain were to be president. Not for him, but for Palin. If he dies or something, she is president. And I am moving back to Canada.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 4:50 pm


~Love Will Tear Us Apart~
I would hate if McCain were to be president. Not for him, but for Palin. If he dies or something, she is president. And I am moving back to Canada.

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Take me with youuuuuuu.

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SuperCock


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Ladykiller

PostPosted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 11:52 am


SuperCock
~Love Will Tear Us Apart~
I would hate if McCain were to be president. Not for him, but for Palin. If he dies or something, she is president. And I am moving back to Canada.

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Take me with youuuuuuu.

D;

Yesh!!

Do you not like Palin, as well?

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 8:33 pm


D r a v v
I would stand in line for this

First off, John McCain has actually been in a war. If you'll notice, almost all presidents who were in wars (the firsts excluded) have not sent the country to war.

Second, it was not George Bush's fault that we went to war. Would you have rather sat around and did nothing after 9/11? Would you have preferred Mr. Bush to go, "Oh, the radical Muslims just blew up several of our most important buildings. Ho hum, well, I'm gonna go make some mashed potatoes." Think about it folks. I know that not all believers of Islam believe that they have to destroy everyone who isn't a Muslim, but some of them sure do and they want the US gone.

Third, Obama wants to decommission all of our nuclear weapons. Those are our main defense right now. Without nukes, it'd be like someone bringing a slingshot into a machine gun fight. China, Iran and pretty much every other country that has anything to do with anything has nuclear weapons. Many of them have blatantly said they hate the US and without our nuclear weapons we'd be more open for attack than we already are.

Fourth, Obama will not even observe the Pledge of Allegiance. He just stands there. This may not seem like a big deal to some, but it pretty well pisses me off. He could at least stand with his hand on his heart to show respect.

Fifth, have you seen the new jail in Chicago?! It's more like a ******** country club than a maximum security prison. Obama's doing. Hardened murderers and rapists get three square meals with snacks, cable TV, a full gym, a cell all to themselves with a bathroom, and a window view of pretty fields.

Sixth, Obama says that he's black and whatnot. Nope, his daddy was Arabic with like 12.5% African heritage and his mama was white. Black? I think not.

Obama = bullshit.

McCain > Obama.
The end.



Why do you think the Iraq war is bad? Do you think those soldiers enlisted without knowing the possibility that they would die? Most of the soldiers who died in the war died for a cause they believed in. They died for our country and for the rest of the oppressed in the Middle East. The war is to stop the growth of Terrorism in the Middle East. Look at Vietnam, we tried to stop the Communist growth, but we failed because of radical anti-war people. If we don't helped those oppressed, who will? If you say who cares about them, I do not think you have an open mind and that you want the best for humankind. Not to mention, we have no oil. If we leave Iraq, we will have to rely on Oil from China and Russia and the little oil we have in the Gulf. Plus, recently in 2003, a test anti missile program was started and many facilities are being and have been build across the country. GO and read about these facilities. They are a huge help. The media has been completely taken over by the Democrats of america. Just look at the big mainstream shows and news channels. Obama has no experience. Sure he was a community organizer, but that's it! McCain had the chance to lead under pressure in the Vietnam war. He has experience and he will not die in office. He recently released his Medical Records and guess what? Not a single flaw! He is more healthy that the average 80-89 year old people. Obama is also the most Liberal and the youngest presidential candidate and the one without any experience. If there was a really good African American President, I'd be all for him. This country is ready for a African American President, but this country is not ready for Obama. Palin, what's so bad about her? I don;t get why people hate her so much... Please correct me if i am wrong... And speaking in giant letters gives people the idea that you are very noisy. It is better to speak calmly to persuade someone rather that using big giant words to make a point.

Eleoste


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Ladykiller

PostPosted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 11:01 pm


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D r a v v
I would stand in line for this

First off, John McCain has actually been in a war. If you'll notice, almost all presidents who were in wars (the firsts excluded) have not sent the country to war.

Second, it was not George Bush's fault that we went to war. Would you have rather sat around and did nothing after 9/11? Would you have preferred Mr. Bush to go, "Oh, the radical Muslims just blew up several of our most important buildings. Ho hum, well, I'm gonna go make some mashed potatoes." Think about it folks. I know that not all believers of Islam believe that they have to destroy everyone who isn't a Muslim, but some of them sure do and they want the US gone.

Third, Obama wants to decommission all of our nuclear weapons. Those are our main defense right now. Without nukes, it'd be like someone bringing a slingshot into a machine gun fight. China, Iran and pretty much every other country that has anything to do with anything has nuclear weapons. Many of them have blatantly said they hate the US and without our nuclear weapons we'd be more open for attack than we already are.

Fourth, Obama will not even observe the Pledge of Allegiance. He just stands there. This may not seem like a big deal to some, but it pretty well pisses me off. He could at least stand with his hand on his heart to show respect.

Fifth, have you seen the new jail in Chicago?! It's more like a ******** country club than a maximum security prison. Obama's doing. Hardened murderers and rapists get three square meals with snacks, cable TV, a full gym, a cell all to themselves with a bathroom, and a window view of pretty fields.

Sixth, Obama says that he's black and whatnot. Nope, his daddy was Arabic with like 12.5% African heritage and his mama was white. Black? I think not.

Obama = bullshit.

McCain > Obama.
The end.



Why do you think the Iraq war is bad? Do you think those soldiers enlisted without knowing the possibility that they would die? Most of the soldiers who died in the war died for a cause they believed in. They died for our country and for the rest of the oppressed in the Middle East. The war is to stop the growth of Terrorism in the Middle East. Look at Vietnam, we tried to stop the Communist growth, but we failed because of radical anti-war people. If we don't helped those oppressed, who will? If you say who cares about them, I do not think you have an open mind and that you want the best for humankind. Not to mention, we have no oil. If we leave Iraq, we will have to rely on Oil from China and Russia and the little oil we have in the Gulf. Plus, recently in 2003, a test anti missile program was started and many facilities are being and have been build across the country. GO and read about these facilities. They are a huge help. The media has been completely taken over by the Democrats of america. Just look at the big mainstream shows and news channels. Obama has no experience. Sure he was a community organizer, but that's it! McCain had the chance to lead under pressure in the Vietnam war. He has experience and he will not die in office. He recently released his Medical Records and guess what? Not a single flaw! He is more healthy that the average 80-89 year old people. Obama is also the most Liberal and the youngest presidential candidate and the one without any experience. If there was a really good African American President, I'd be all for him. This country is ready for a African American President, but this country is not ready for Obama. Palin, what's so bad about her? I don;t get why people hate her so much... Please correct me if i am wrong... And speaking in giant letters gives people the idea that you are very noisy. It is better to speak calmly to persuade someone rather that using big giant words to make a point.

First off, I assume you did not mean to quote her, as she is obviously for the Iraq War.

Anyway, it is kind of obvious that they know there is a possibility that they will die, they are fighting for their country's freedom. And as for the army, I generally support them. As of late, not so much, because my cousin is in it. He has served in Iraq since America declared war on Iraq, was supposed to come back at the latest in late 2006 with a full paid grant to Yale, as he was a 4.3 student. However, because there are less people enlisting as of late, he is still in Iraq having no say in the matter and not knowing if he will get his grant and if he tries to come home by leaving the army will be court marshaled.

Okay, the radical anti-war people that caused us to supposedly loose Vietnam were the ones wanting to live. Also, you cannot only blame them, you must blame Nixon. He was terrible, you can tell by the fact that he has been the only president to resign because of imminent impeachment.

If you seriously think oil is the only option, you are truly ignorant. Oil is one of the things that as a nation, on both main party lines, we are trying to slowly stop our dependence. However, I do not like them looking at Nuclear Energy again, there was a reason we stopped, and that was the ten thousand years it took to get rid of the waste. Also, ethanol and such I think is a bad alternative when there are third world countries starving and we are using corn for Hummers, let alone the fact our own fellow countrymen are starving on the streets. We need to start bettering solar, as there has been resent research on it, that we could soon be getting triple the amount of energy from solar panels. Germany knows this and is doing very well. We need to follow Germany in that sense. And do not say Palin knows everything about energy. Alaska is not the leading state for energy, it is Oregon. California is following them at the moment, as they are going in the right direction. As for Russia and China (mainly China), that is really not an option right now. We are already in so much debt that we have screwed pretty much the next two-hundred years, and I will not be surprised when Mandarin becomes a language more common here, as we will be in debt to China.

They may help in some ways, but not in the debt situation right now. Those, I do not care about as much, as there are some pretty big threats arising, though part of me thinks America deserves it. I would be angry, too, if I was starving in Afghanistan while fat Americans got everything they wanted. I would want to kill them.

Well, the media is not all Democrat run. Fox? You have heard of this, yes? They are VERY right wing, and as such, racist. I am not saying all right-wingers are racist, as there are also left and centralists that are racist. Now, MSNBC and CNN are considered fairly liberal, but you can get information in other ways. If the only place you get your information is the big television stations, then you need to go elsewhere.

Sure, Obama isn't the oldest and most experienced, but the main reason I see that he is better is that he is not doing the "trickle-down" effect. That has obviously not worked, as we are in an awful economic crisis. Taxes based on income is a much better way. Also, I don't want someone who fifty years older than my generation deciding on policies and such. He is too old, in my opinion. If he were to have an eight-year term, he would be eighty when it ended.

It is fine that he was in Vietnam; it is honorable, though that won't sway me in the slightest. I don't need to here about how he was a prisoner of war, I would think he would not want to think about it, but it seems like credentials to be the president for some people.

ALSO, he contradicts himself a lot, even in the same interviews. This does not improve my thoughts of him.

As for that great medical report, if that is true, that is bad. "More healthy than the average 80-89 year old". That would be great, if he was that old. He is 72, not 80. And it is great that he appears to be healthy, I do not wish death on him or anything, I DON'T want him to die in office if he wins, as I do not want Palin as my president.

And this is bad? I, personally, don't especially like Obama, however, given the choice, he is who I choose. There are issues I do not agree with, like Gay Marriage. I believe it is the couple's choice, and thier right as Americans to get married. Though, Civil Unions with the same benefits are just as good to me, however I cannot defend that very well as I do am not in a situation where I can't marry the person.

Obama may not be the best African American to be put in office, but I personally do not think people should be biased about color, as it is trivial things like this that belittle America. At the same time, sexism is something I view the same way. I do not want a soccer mom as my Vice President.

What is wrong with Palin? What isn't? My main issue is that I am a huge Animal Rights activist. In 2007 she supported a "predator control" program that would kill innocent wolves at $150 each for the hopes to increase moose population. This is currently going on, though they no longer have the bounty of $150. This is also going on for black bears right now. Palin is in some kind of illusionary world where everything is fine in Alaska, and that she has done good for it.

And for the big letters, I obviously do not care if I am noisy, as I would rather be heard than ignored. This is how I always post. I am perfectly calm, and enunciate my point in capitalized lettering.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 3:57 pm


I want McCain to win in the election cause he does things that i like ang that's...good.i also want him to be president so he can keep the soldiers in iraq cause i dont think the job is done there and those troops are what is letting these two people(McCain and Obama) and all the other VPs debate over being president. cool

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