Something I meant to write here, but put in the wrong guild

[Dark_lord_15]

This was originally written for you guys, but I got distracted and picked the wrong guild forum... haha

So this week at my school we had Right Choices, which is the Abstinence program for Tennessee (and I'm pretty sure that's it... just Tennessee, right? Maybe only West Tennessee... ah whatever), where they teach us about how sex is evil and blah de blah blah blah until you either want to puke because of all the discolored p***s pictures they show you, or you want to shoot yourself because you're bored out of your mind.

Anyways, I don't normally do the program (you can pull yourself out, and I normally do because of some problems I had the first time I tried to do it), but this week I decided what the hell and stayed all week. Things went as boring and disgusting as you would expect right up until Friday when we started talking about guys have such a hard time keeping their d**k in their pants. Apparently it's because (drum roll please):

1) Charles Darwin "decided" that people are animals
2) Another guy (cannot remember his name... help?) 50 years later said that because people are animals, then, like all animals, they live to reproduce.
3) Hugh Hefner wanted money

And that, friends, is why I love public education. Almost every single kid in West Tennessee at least are learning that we have teen pregnancy, STDs and Porn because Darwin thought that we were monkeys. And no one even questions any of it. I half want to laugh and half want to cry because I'll be stuck with these dumbasses for at least 3 more years... I think I'll just settle with a sad shaking of the head.

 

[Daffodil the Destroyer]

IMHO abstinence only education is not education in any way, shape, or form. Neither is most of the excrement that passes as science education in the southern US. I was lucky enough to have a biology teacher who did emphasize evolution more than ID (in Georgia, that's a feat), but I think that he could have done more to cover the topic of evolution more thoroughly, because as a brainwashed little Christian child, I still came out of the class believing that evolution was a hypothesis that was on shaky ground with very little proof.

Combining bad science teaching with most any idea at all is usually a terrible idea.

 

[fhbnfghnbfgbsnbg]

At my school they did a play where they encoiuraged us with "Don't Get Horozontal" and "Abstinence Man", who would fly in and stop people about to have sex.

Interestingly, now that I'm in high school, we haven't heard a word on it.  

[Dark_lord_15]

KuroFur

At my school they did a play where they encoiuraged us with "Don't Get Horozontal" and "Abstinence Man", who would fly in and stop people about to have sex.

Interestingly, now that I'm in high school, we haven't heard a word on it.

haha, abstinence man... that sounds almost as good as vibrato boy (a man who stops crime by singing... very shakily)

Daffodil the Destroyer

IMHO abstinence only education is not education in any way, shape, or form. Neither is most of the excrement that passes as science education in the southern US. I was lucky enough to have a biology teacher who did emphasize evolution more than ID (in Georgia, that's a feat), but I think that he could have done more to cover the topic of evolution more thoroughly, because as a brainwashed little Christian child, I still came out of the class believing that evolution was a hypothesis that was on shaky ground with very little proof.

Combining bad science teaching with most any idea at all is usually a terrible idea.

I couldn't agree more! And it really is amazing that evolution was even mentioned as more than something Satan himself thought up... at our school, the teachers just mention it once, criticize it, and move on with the lesson.
The only exception is that this year, my physical science teacher is a Universalist, so she believes in evolution and all that good stuff... but she's afraid to talk about it because it will screw up her chances of being rehired. Needless to say, she loves me, haha

 

[Dathu]

I used to live in Tennessee. I'm so happy I got out.  

[Dark_lord_15]

Dathu

I used to live in Tennessee. I'm so happy I got out.

*facepalm* it is horrific

 

[Athena_Ritashe]

This just goes to show that ignorance is not bliss and what you don't know can hurt you.  

[Dark_lord_15]

Athena_Ritashe

This just goes to show that ignorance is not bliss and what you don't know can hurt you.

What do you mean? (sorry, sorta slow)

 

[Henneth Annun]

That is ridiculous and said. That's hardly education, more like brainwashing.

burning_eyes

*is thankful to live in California*  

[Athena_Ritashe]

Dark_lord_15

Athena_Ritashe

This just goes to show that ignorance is not bliss and what you don't know can hurt you.

What do you mean? (sorry, sorta slow)

I thought it was quite obvious what I meant. I mean that by teaching abstinence only education teenagers end up being ignorant of contraceptives available to them and what happens if they make a bad decision (STD/pregnancy) Teenagers end up having sex and since they are ignorant of their options a girl ends up being pregnant, STDs end up spreading and a teenage mother ends up being in poverty for life instead of being able to get an education and establish herself before having children. What you don't know can hurt you.  

[Sanguvixen]

I think everyone can take a lesson learned from Sarah Failin....I mean Palin. Abstinence only education does not work and it is a horrible thing to teach to kids.

That aside you are taught to accept what is said in school so....go figure most people won't challenge what is said.  

[Daffodil the Destroyer]

I would hope that people would learn a lesson from Sarah Palin and her daughter... abstinence-only education, to teenage motherhood, to broken engagement between new teenage parents... the entire thing is a trainwreck.

But unfortunately, I would bet money that there are still a whole lot of conservative Christians in this country that think the Palin family is the pinnacle of Godly Republican Morality or something.

 

[PathlessPlot]

Athena_Ritashe

Dark_lord_15

Athena_Ritashe

This just goes to show that ignorance is not bliss and what you don't know can hurt you.

What do you mean? (sorry, sorta slow)

I thought it was quite obvious what I meant. I mean that by teaching abstinence only education teenagers end up being ignorant of contraceptives available to them and what happens if they make a bad decision (STD/pregnancy) Teenagers end up having sex and since they are ignorant of their options a girl ends up being pregnant, STDs end up spreading and a teenage mother ends up being in poverty for life instead of being able to get an education and establish herself before having children. What you don't know can hurt you.

I would agree with this. My sex ed class didn't teach me anything except that sex was bad and you shouldn't do it. I wound up pregnant at 17, even though that was good compared to some I knew of. I was only out for five days and still graduated. Now I am in college with pretty good grades, but I have more help and support than some teen mothers have, plus the father (even though we are not together) still tries to help out. I wish I had been better educated by either my parents or at school. I love my son, but I still wish I would have known a few things. Parents don't seem to realize that you can't just push these uncomfortable conversations under the rug and hope their children will just be ok. Educators need to try to pick up where the parents leave off. Abstinence is an unrealistic way to educate teens about sex. Just the fact that you shouldn't do it makes you want to do it all the more and nothing makes a teen want to rebel more than for the parent to tell you it's for your own good. Why don't parents understand this? Is their own teenage years so far away from them that they've forgotten what it feels like to be struggling with these horomones?  

[Prince Rilian]

Oh, what guild was it? I saw this post already, but my response is not here, so I guess it's in the other guild.  

[Dark_lord_15]

Athena_Ritashe

Dark_lord_15

Athena_Ritashe

This just goes to show that ignorance is not bliss and what you don't know can hurt you.

What do you mean? (sorry, sorta slow)

I thought it was quite obvious what I meant. I mean that by teaching abstinence only education teenagers end up being ignorant of contraceptives available to them and what happens if they make a bad decision (STD/pregnancy) Teenagers end up having sex and since they are ignorant of their options a girl ends up being pregnant, STDs end up spreading and a teenage mother ends up being in poverty for life instead of being able to get an education and establish herself before having children. What you don't know can hurt you.

siiigh, like I said, I was having a slow day razz I understood, but just needed confirmation that I was right.

Granny Duck: So how old is your son? I am a freshman and there are already 2 girls in our grade that have given birth and another that is about 6 months pregnant. So obviously, right choices IS NOT helping a bit.
That was another thing they told us. Apparently we don't have those hormones naturally... those were put there by ideas and lifestyles (which takes us back to the Darwin argument... ugh!)

Darrodil The Destroyer: Oh yeah. around here, Palin can be substituted with Jesus

Rilian Reilly Sharp: The Atheist Guild... which I have since quit. Nobody was posting there, my topic was the first activity in 3 months, so I left... haha... if it's a public guild though, I'll go have a look-see ^_^

Edit (From The Atheist Guild):

Rilian Reilly Sharp

My 9th grade health class had a preacher come one day and talk about how women are supposed to be pure when they get married, and that's what the white dress represents, and men are supposed to be the authority in the marriage, which is what the black suit represents, and of course the man should be pure too, and then he showed us pictures of STDified body parts, and wouldn't let the girls look at the mutilated penises and wouldn't let the boys look at the mutilated vaginas, because then our eyes wouldn't be pure anymore, but it's OK for him to look at both, because he's 70 years old and already married and half dead anyway.

The next day, a hippie woman came and talked to us about contraception.

That's what we did... except we looked at both and our instructor thought that the pictures were funny and made crude jokes about deformed penises and s**t like that. ew.