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Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 12:41 pm
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Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 4:23 pm
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Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 4:58 pm
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Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 9:40 pm
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Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 5:53 am
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Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 2:26 pm
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I tend to find that all stereotypes for Atheists are inaccurate. I have met a WIDE variety of Atheists both on and offline, and I can say with some confidence that Atheists cover the WHOLE spectrum of personalities, moralities, intelligence levels, and races. I think that, perhaps, people tend to see a typical kind of Atheist because usually that kind is the kind that will openly and eagerly voice their Atheism, where as the other kinds may keep it personal, hide it, or outright lie. surprised
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Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 7:32 pm
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ReDValKyRiE13 =X-Sparker + AquaKiller= What do people think about "angry atheists"? well, firstly, define "angry atheists". Do you mean they are angry at the deity specifically, or at the people worshipping the deity? If angry atheists are the former, then they are indirectly acknowledging the existence of god and therefore TECHNICALLY aren't atheists. I was referring to the latter. My father (like many other "angry atheists" and non-angry atheists) is quite a good debater. I mean, he can bring up anything from statistics to christian history in a debate at the drop of a hat. The thing is that he also becomes very impassioned when arguing and really hates theism. That's mostly what I think she's reacting to. But even though it seems nice on the surface to have a shift in stereotypes about atheists (since the "angry atheist" tends to be the default) is it really any better? On the one side, it can be incredibly helpful in that it could be an indicator that people are starting to see atheism as being a rational, logic driven viewpoint and will therefore be more likely to engage in meaningful discussion with atheists. (Or maybe its just my aunt) On the other hand, for people to assume that a person must not believe what they're saying simply because they become impassioned about it (thus acting out of the supposed norm) can become a very convenient way of shutting down conversation.
If it's the latter, then he's still an atheist. I understand why he would hate theism. After all, that's the thing that has ruined so many lives and suffocated many more. If you just think about it, if, just simply if, there is no religion and all those insensible rules and teachings, what a better place the world will be.
I don't think the default stereotype of atheism is angry atheist. In fact, the most common and popular stereotype was the "atheists are logic intellectuals" one.
Either way, people have always been willing to engage in a conversation with atheists. The problem lies in whether or not they are actually listening to us or they are just trying to disprove us (if you hear A LOT of "but" and "well you see" after you made a point, then those people are trying to disprove you).
If someone thinks that you don't believe in what you're saying simply because you are impassioned, then that someone isn't exactly a person to engage in an intellectual conversation with...
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Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 7:40 pm
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Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2009 5:41 am
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My entire family is basically Christian (except for me of course), they tried to convert me at a young age too, brainwash and such. It would have worked too if I hadn't become angry at the very god they tried to make me worship.
You see at a very young age I was highly religious, but I was also highly curious about everything around me. I have this disease called Asperger Syndrome and basically it means I get TOO into the things I try to study, one of those things just happened to be biology. Because I looked and acted different from the other kids at school I kept getting my a** kicked around (white boy living in the ghettos), the teachers did nothing but watch for fun. I prayed to this 'god' every night to help me and save me...no savior ever came. No other kids stood up and helped the weaker kid, no teachers intervened in the fight until I was flat on the floor, NOBODY helped me. I've alerted the other teachers and my family too, all that led to was more blood shed and rocks to my head because the kids were angry that I told on them.
That left serious emotional scarring.
Eventually I made a bet with God, if he would let me go unbullied for just ONE day I would pay a million dollars to the church when I get older, if not then he owes me the said million (it was a stupid argument, I know, but I was young at the time and VERY pissed). Long story short I got my a** beaten to a pulp the WORST I've ever had that day...seems like that said "god" still owes me a mother ******** lottery. I stopped believing, I detested the very god I worshipped with a great passion and I turned to Satanism for a good long while.
After a while all religions seemed pointless to me, I began seeing humans as fellow animals instead of this "perfect being made in the image of a GREAT CREATOR -dum dum DAAAAAH-!" Religious scriptures began to look very easily disprovable to me, I worked hard finding ways to ruin the bibles name, nothing but the rage against an omnipotent being that doesn't exists fueling my fire.
TL;Dr (or the End to the little story I just told) Now to this day I've grown a little wiser. I still have hate for the Christian religion and any "god", but now my views are solely based upon science and I try to stay away from all god discussion with Christians in hopes that I don't offend them. I used to push my sciency views on people but nowadays I just sit back and calmly watch the s**t hit the fan.
So originally I became an Atheist purely for my detestion against god.
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