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Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 6:13 pm
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Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 6:27 pm
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Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 6:30 pm
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It's kinda push on that. Obama was at state level government for 7 years, Palin at local and state for 13 years (she was not a governor for two terms, she was a governor for about two and a half years). IMHO, neither was really up to the task of being president, but Sarah Palin was running for Vice President, not president. Given Adams description of the role, I think she was up to that task more than adequately. As to who would have made the better President, again, neither. Both were too inexperienced for the job. McCain was eminently qualified and would have made a great president, possibly one of the greatest in our history. Palin may or may not try to run in 2012, but it would be a mistake. She should leave the job of 2012 to Romney, and maybe consider a second go at the VP slot.
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Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 6:36 pm
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Lord Bitememan It's kinda push on that. Obama was at state level government for 7 years, Palin at local and state for 13 years (she was not a governor for two terms, she was a governor for about two and a half years). IMHO, neither was really up to the task of being president, but Sarah Palin was running for Vice President, not president. Given Adams description of the role, I think she was up to that task more than adequately. As to who would have made the better President, again, neither. Both were too inexperienced for the job. McCain was eminently qualified and would have made a great president, possibly one of the greatest in our history. Palin may or may not try to run in 2012, but it would be a mistake. She should leave the job of 2012 to Romney, and maybe consider a second go at the VP slot.
I'd like to see her and Gingrich go for it
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Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 6:38 pm
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Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 6:40 pm
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Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 6:40 pm
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Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 6:56 pm
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Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:08 pm
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Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 6:11 am
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Quote: Many went to third parties moreso this last election according to the votes nationwide.
That's actually factually inaccurate. The total share of the 3rd party vote in this past election was about 1.5%. In 2004 it was 1%. So, the 2008 numbers represent only a half percentage shift towards 3rd parties. Now, in 2000 the share was 3.74%, more than twice the 2008 number and more than 3 times the 2004 number. The numbers this time were also numerically not comparable. A little more than 2 million votes were cast for third parties in this election out of a total of more than 131 million cast. In 2004 3rd parties received 1.2 million votes, but out of only 122 million cast. So, nine million more voters in 2008, and only about 800,000 more votes for 3rd parties. And compared to 2000, you had nearly 4 million votes cast for 3rd parties, out of only 105 million votes cast. So that was twice as many 3rd party voters in 2000, with 26 million fewer voters overall. One could say that the Constitution and Libertarian parties increased their overall vote in this last election over 2004, but it would also be true that both parties increased their share of the vote from 2000 to 2004 as well. So the argument that people were defecting en masse just doesn't historically hold up. The vote in this past election is actually within normal parameters for 3rd party votes, and if anything represents part of a trough in 3rd party participation that spiked in 1992 with Ross Perot's candidacy.
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Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 2:08 pm
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Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 10:34 pm
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Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 11:15 pm
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The experience thing is kind of hard to argue. Palin didn't really have much experience in national politics. As bad as it sounds, I believe she actually lost us a lot of votes. I know many people who refused to vote for McCain not because of his political stance, but because he was old, and they didn't want to take the chance on him dying in office and making Palin our president. Kind of messed up, but at least people are thinking about things like that... I suppose that's better than the ignorant vote...
As for Obama, he had a lot of experience doing NOTHING at the national level. He knew how to keep himself in office, but never really effected a change. I mean, before this election, had anyone really heard of him? Not really. He didn't offend anyone, and he didn't champion any causes. In my opinion, Obama won based on the race card. I have no problem saying that, and I don't care who would call me racist redneck republican because of it. I don't have a problem with a minority president--I have a problem with a president who was only elected BECAUSE he is a minority. That's just messed up. I guess the Dems just couldn't lose here. They had a woman and a black man, and if their candidate lost, they could cry prejudice and an unfair world not willing to accept change... Gotta love politics... rolleyes
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Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 7:44 am
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