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Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 8:27 pm

Faith healing articles come out once a month or so in America. This one is relatively recent.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,560941,00.html

What is faith healing?
All over America, this trend is emerging. Religious people (mostly Christian) refusing their children medical care of any kind, putting their faith in prayer, and not medicine. A family that believes in faith healing will not accept medical treatment, even in life threatening situations.

How many children a year are needlessly killed due to faith healing?
This number has never been calculated, however, a simple google search can say a lot about the number of faith healing cases come above the radar
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=deaths+faith+healing&aq=f&oq=&aqi=

How often does prayer work?
All studies show that it really doesn't
A Cochrane review of intercessory prayer found essentially no effect, and a recent study not included in the review found similar results for the effect of intercessory prayer on outcome for heart surgery

Isn't faith healing illegal? Arn't parents punished for killing their children?

Faith healing isn't formally recognized as child abuse. It is perfectly legal, but if a child dies, parents are somewhat punished. Typically, parents that murder their children by denying them medical care are given harsh punishment, but if the reasons are religious, most judges find this justifiable. Parents that kill their children through faith healing will usually serve between a year in prison, and a few months of probation or community service. These parents are almost always allowed to keep their other children as well.

So, what do you think about families that reject modern medicine and try to pray their children better? How should these parents be punished? Should they get lesser sentences because they are simply following their religion?

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 8:44 pm

Faith healing is the most RETARDED thing I have ever heard.
That is like saying,
" Hey guys! Let's play Russian Roulette! I loaded five bullets for a funner experience. "

Even if your that lucky S.O.B who was 1/6 to not get shot, that doesn't mean it is not dangerous.
What if you play that game a couple more times?
Well let's see....Let's say you play twelve times.
5 x 12 = 60
6 x 12 = 72

This means you have a 60/72 chance of getting shot while you have a 12/72 chance of NOT being shot. Doesn't sound fun.
But the only problem is:
A. Religion can make 6+6+6= SATAN!!! Math doesn't matter in this fairy-land.
B. Playing chance when it comes to health will usually lead to 99% chance of death FOR THE FACT that magic and your own body can't defend everything.

This is more stupid then that thing going around saying Shots cause Autism....AND PEOPLE BELIEVE!!!!

Just goes to show that so many people are gullible and believe anyone that is on T.V or is popular.

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Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 9:34 pm

You know this happened to one of my friends... her parents wouldnt get her treated because they thought this was better, and cheaper... If I hadnt stepped in with my other friends, she would have died... I love my family... the parents still dont know what we did...

Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 3:02 am

Faith healing IS child abuse.

Denying your child medicine or surgery and forcing them to stay put while their preacher "makes everything better"? Having them agonizingly suffer through a painful disease with the belief that prayer will make them feel better?

Actually, that should be classified as a form of tourture.

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Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 8:43 am

...is that really all the punishment they recive?

How the ******** is this different from negligence?

Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 2:20 pm

Also, only a year at BEST?
What the hell is wrong with these people!?!?!?
This isn't going to stop if their just giving these p***y punishments out.
One year?!!??!!?!?
That is nothing.
You might not even get raped in that amount of time.
Parents who cause the death of a child should be locked away for around 30-60 years in court law agreements considering this act can go under the following:
1. Abuse
2. Neglect
3. Torture
4. First or Second degree murder ( Depending on situation. )
5. Refusal of medical procedures in some cases

This is serious s**t.
The death of a minor should be A HIGH PRICE.
Killing a kid is sometimes 25-to-life sentence.

I don't care if " Miss Quaker " gets shanked.
This is wrong

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Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 2:35 am

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So LD, what do you think about families that reject modern medicine and try to pray their children better? How should these parents be punished? Should they get lesser sentences because they are simply following their religion?

I say we infect them with every major disease out there now, Swine flu, AIDS, Cancer, and if they can pray themselves better they get to go free. And if not... well that will be one less problem to deal with.

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 3:51 am

Actually looking at the thread's title I thought this will be a discussion about placebo xd

My, I can't even believe such things can even be possible! If anyone did something like letting their child die for religious reasons in my country... This is plain ridiculous. Of course there are situations when Jehova's witnesses don't agree for blood transfusions, but if such parents are at least a little reasonable and if they love their child they'd most probably let their kids cured...
Religious fanatism scares me, this is just too far.
That's why I always say: believe whatever you want but don't let it have influence on your life too much...

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Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 12:49 pm

Faith healing is just ridiculous. Just because a parent's child died for religious reasons due to faith healing doesn't justify anything. Throw them in jail, take their children away. Jeez.

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 8:47 pm

Why don't they just get medical treatment AND pray? People are f*cking stupid...

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Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 1:43 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a54iqEr1flQ rofl

I know a lot of real damage is done by these practices... but this vid is just too funny.

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 2:05 pm

alteregoivy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a54iqEr1flQ rofl

I know a lot of real damage is done by these practices... but this vid is just too funny.

Now I wanna whip someone with a jacket...
This is God's will, of course...

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Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 9:07 pm

What if the poor child is having an asthma attack?

Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 9:08 pm

Their stupid, no way to get around it. "Hey! Maybe if I sit around and hope it will go away, other then using medicine that has a physical chance of improving this individuals health!"

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Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 9:09 pm

[-Erik-]

...is that really all the punishment they recive?

How the ******** is this different from negligence?

I assume you know, but it IS negligence.

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