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 Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 7:49 am
I originally took the "true Agnostic" stand towards religion, because I sort of always thought that to a true skeptic, no amount of evidence could convince him or her of the existence of a god or gods.
Admittedly, specific religions make many claims that *can* be tested through science. I am probably 99.9% atheist towards established religions; I am somewhat more agnostic about an undefined universal consciousness.
Still, what would it take to convince the skeptic, for sure? Just one inexplicable occurrence or facet of the universe wouldn't cut it; there are many things that are not yet explicable through science. A personal experience wouldn't work; there's another thread on Gnosis and many "miracles" have no evidence to support them other than various eyewitness accounts.
What would it take to make you believe in God? Not necessarily to make you worship Him/Her/It/They, but just to *know* that it exists?
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Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 1:01 pm
For it to knock on my front door, barge in, grab a soda, and kick its feet up on the coffe table rofl
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Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 2:18 pm
Labyrinthknight7 For it to knock on my front door, barge in, grab a soda, and kick its feet up on the coffe table rofl Yeah but even then I'd need to see some ID or something =P
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Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 3:35 pm
If the Rapture happened, I'd seriously start doubting my convictions.
Or if God instant messaged me, put his hand through my computer screen and dragged me up to wherever he judges people. Even then, though... I might attribute it to sleep deprivation or carbon monoxide fumes. ^_^
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Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 6:08 pm
tearingXheavenXdown If the Rapture happened, I'd seriously start doubting my convictions. Or if God instant messaged me, put his hand through my computer screen and dragged me up to wherever he judges people. Even then, though... I might attribute it to sleep deprivation or carbon monoxide fumes. ^_^ Well, exactly, that's what I'm saying. Even if you had some sort of trippy experience to convince you of God, you would probably simply doubt your own sanity. Now, the Rapture, that might work, because it would be a global event with physical consequences.
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Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 6:24 pm
i wouldnt worship a god even if he/she/it appeared in front of me and gave me 50 dollars
i mean think about it, if there is a god or higher power he/she/it must be pretty screwed up to let all the bad things that have happened or are happening happen
you dont want to go to an afterlife with that
and besides, eternal life would bore the crap out of me anyway
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Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 7:11 pm
Scientific and verifiable evidence.
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Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 7:54 pm
Having him come down from the sky in front of everyone and watch him perform miracles (ie, cure somebody's paralysis or Down's syndrome). I don't think it's fair that only the ancient jews had the privilege to see him in person doing his magic.
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Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 9:56 pm
alteregoivy tearingXheavenXdown If the Rapture happened, I'd seriously start doubting my convictions. Or if God instant messaged me, put his hand through my computer screen and dragged me up to wherever he judges people. Even then, though... I might attribute it to sleep deprivation or carbon monoxide fumes. ^_^ Well, exactly, that's what I'm saying. Even if you had some sort of trippy experience to convince you of God, you would probably simply doubt your own sanity. Now, the Rapture, that might work, because it would be a global event with physical consequences.
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Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 1:54 am
Well, if someone came up to me, kicked me in the knee and said "Doesn't hurt any more, does it?" and it DIDN'T, well... I'd definitely become their prophet.
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Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 1:25 pm
If the Rapture ocurred, I'd definitely start rethinking immediately.
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Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 2:30 pm
If god rode out of my T.v riding a unicorn and said "Sup dawg lets play sum HALO 3 BEATCH!!! Were you keep the booze in yo crib" then I might start to consider he was real...and yes im saying god is black.
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Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 3:12 pm
dl1371 i wouldnt worship a god even if he/she/it appeared in front of me and gave me 50 dollars i mean think about it, if there is a god or higher power he/she/it must be pretty screwed up to let all the bad things that have happened or are happening happen you dont want to go to an afterlife with that and besides, eternal life would bore the crap out of me anyway What if he gave you 100 dollars? mrgreen
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Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 4:59 pm
Lethkhar dl1371 i wouldnt worship a god even if he/she/it appeared in front of me and gave me 50 dollars i mean think about it, if there is a god or higher power he/she/it must be pretty screwed up to let all the bad things that have happened or are happening happen you dont want to go to an afterlife with that and besides, eternal life would bore the crap out of me anyway What if he gave you 100 dollars? mrgreen i still wouldnt worship him i mean is a hundred dollars worth lieing(curse my bad spelling) about your views and supporting someone who doesnt care whether people die or not?
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Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 12:43 am
Testable and repeatable evidence that would allow us to continually interact with or perceive the deity in some form. Basically, any way that we could measure by science would be convincing enough for me.
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