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Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2011 12:48 pm
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Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2011 3:30 pm
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Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2011 7:26 pm
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Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2011 2:56 pm
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Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2011 3:38 pm
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Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2011 11:04 pm
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Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2011 11:05 pm
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Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 8:14 pm
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Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 6:44 pm
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Vanilla eXee Obscurus I like what Nilla has to say. My family no doubt thinks I'm eccentric and have to have some hint that I'm involved in the occult (even though they probably wouldn't use that word). They don't seem to care so I see no reason to give them all the gory details. But like Nilla said, fish first if you really want to tell them.
My brother and I are the same way with our mom. Don't ask, don't tell. She kinda got the hint that we weren't catholic anymore after 10 years or so of us not attending church with her. Now she just tells people "My children don't believe in god!" rolleyes
My parents were never religious like that so it was never really an issue.
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Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2011 11:10 am
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My mom never really had a problem with me looking around into different religions, but if I could turn back time, I would have changed how my dad found out.
I was upstairs working on a banishing evil spell, similar to Voo Doo orgins where you take pins and sharp things and put them into a jar, thus jarring up, and putting away all kinds of negativity. My mom had even taught me this one. I was 11 I think, and I didn't know we weren't Christian, my dad always took us to church, my mom went sometimes too!
He came in when I was in the middle of it, and well, screaming fest started there.
However, now I'm several years older, I would start by dipping into something where he is most familiar with. I would go to the roots of Christianity.
Its all about educating.
I would start by quizing him about why we have an alter, and in older times, I would explain what alters were used for, specifically, what alters were used for right before Christianity was going on. ahem.
I would also mention that Coca-Cola put the whole fat white guy as Santa Claus, where the original Santa Claus stories came from, and about how he didn't look like that in folktales back then, that it has a lot of Dutch, and German ancestry. Particularly close to the Norse god, Odin. I would mention how I was confused on how that didn't really relate to Jesus, and how I found out that Christmas trees don't relate to Jesus either. In the 1400 anyone caught with a Christmas tree would get killed because worshiping trees, and showing the Holly King (Figure of Santa Claus) respect like that would considered Pagan.
And then I would bring up Lammas, and point out how all of the Christian Holidays seem to land magically on some very older ones. And inform my parents how my suspicions were correct, when the holidays that we celebrate today didn't stem from just Christianity.
That will get them thinking. And tell them that it stems from a very tree hugger kind of religion. I pulled the tree hugger stuff on one of my best friends who was a Mormon, when she asked me about myself. It seemed to work out just fine.
Something many people who are Christian tend to do, is try to get you on their side. I feel like the main thing many of them do, is consider you an outsider if you don't believe what they do. Honestly to me it feels kind of rediculous, but I understand how important it can be to tell your family members, and feel accepted and continue being part of the family.
What I didn't realise until later, is that many Christians, they were brought up to hate everyone else but what they believed in. The second that you find out your neighbor is Budhist, many of them think that's related to Louisiana Voo Doo, but with a negative connotation. I have heard what they say, they talk about how you do devil work, and how your going to hell. Uniformed Christians won't trust that person. Most were brought up not to have any kind of respect for other cultures, and try to convert you if they feel cornered, or if they feel like they really like you and want you to come to heaven with them.
Its really kind of like a cult. Thou shall not have no God before. They take that to heart. But until you enlighten them how backwards their own religion really is: They worship Mary, Joseph, God, Jesus, and the many many Saints. Thats multiple divinities. If you pray to more than one person, your worshipping another. How the bible contradicts itself saying all men are made equal, yet without the Popes permission or your pastors permission, you can't repent and feel free of sins (This was a practice created when you could actually buy your forgiveness) I told my parents this and they were shocked! They had no idea about their own religion and how the customs of today had gone into effect.
Of course, you job is to inform them, teach them what they don't know. without educating your family, first on their religion, and then how another religion makes sense, or is the root of Christianity, thats a great place to start.
After this, line up all the ideas that drew you into where you are now, why you like them, and why you feel spirited and passionate about what you love. Your parents will understand. It might take a long time, but just remember that your parents love you. They remember when their baby was in diapers and how cute you were. With some small coaxing, and a little bit of education, you'll be ready to come out of the broom closet. Just do some research first.
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Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2011 11:14 am
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Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2011 11:19 am
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Valdune My mom never really had a problem with me looking around into different religions, but if I could turn back time, I would have changed how my dad found out. I was upstairs working on a banishing evil spell, similar to Voo Doo orgins where you take pins and sharp things and put them into a jar, thus jarring up, and putting away all kinds of negativity. My mom had even taught me this one. I was 11 I think, and I didn't know we weren't Christian, my dad always took us to church, my mom went sometimes too! He came in when I was in the middle of it, and well, screaming fest started there. However, now I'm several years older, I would start by dipping into something where he is most familiar with. I would go to the roots of Christianity. Its all about educating. I would start by quizing him about why we have an alter, and in older times, I would explain what alters were used for, specifically, what alters were used for right before Christianity was going on. ahem. I would also mention that Coca-Cola put the whole fat white guy as Santa Claus, where the original Santa Claus stories came from, and about how he didn't look like that in folktales back then, that it has a lot of Dutch, and German ancestry. Particularly close to the Norse god, Odin. I would mention how I was confused on how that didn't really relate to Jesus, and how I found out that Christmas trees don't relate to Jesus either. In the 1400 anyone caught with a Christmas tree would get killed because worshiping trees, and showing the Holly King (Figure of Santa Claus) respect like that would considered Pagan. And then I would bring up Lammas, and point out how all of the Christian Holidays seem to land magically on some very older ones. And inform my parents how my suspicions were correct, when the holidays that we celebrate today didn't stem from just Christianity. That will get them thinking. And tell them that it stems from a very tree hugger kind of religion. I pulled the tree hugger stuff on one of my best friends who was a Mormon, when she asked me about myself. It seemed to work out just fine. Something many people who are Christian tend to do, is try to get you on their side. I feel like the main thing many of them do, is consider you an outsider if you don't believe what they do. Honestly to me it feels kind of rediculous, but I understand how important it can be to tell your family members, and feel accepted and continue being part of the family. What I didn't realise until later, is that many Christians, they were brought up to hate everyone else but what they believed in. The second that you find out your neighbor is Budhist, many of them think that's related to Louisiana Voo Doo, but with a negative connotation. I have heard what they say, they talk about how you do devil work, and how your going to hell. Uniformed Christians won't trust that person. Most were brought up not to have any kind of respect for other cultures, and try to convert you if they feel cornered, or if they feel like they really like you and want you to come to heaven with them. Its really kind of like a cult. Thou shall not have no God before. They take that to heart. But until you enlighten them how backwards their own religion really is: They worship Mary, Joseph, God, Jesus, and the many many Saints. Thats multiple divinities. If you pray to more than one person, your worshipping another. How the bible contradicts itself saying all men are made equal, yet without the Popes permission or your pastors permission, you can't repent and feel free of sins (This was a practice created when you could actually buy your forgiveness) I told my parents this and they were shocked! They had no idea about their own religion and how the customs of today had gone into effect. Of course, you job is to inform them, teach them what they don't know. without educating your family, first on their religion, and then how another religion makes sense, or is the root of Christianity, thats a great place to start. After this, line up all the ideas that drew you into where you are now, why you like them, and why you feel spirited and passionate about what you love. Your parents will understand. It might take a long time, but just remember that your parents love you. They remember when their baby was in diapers and how cute you were. With some small coaxing, and a little bit of education, you'll be ready to come out of the broom closet. Just do some research first.
You knew how to banish evil at 11? Damn. I just knew how to conger up good energy. I still arn't to sure how to banish what I conger. sad
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Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 11:31 pm
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Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2011 12:34 pm
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