Adam and Eve DID perform the first sin! (Warning: LOGIC)

[Tenth Speed Writer]

Hah! I've proven us all wrong! Adam and Eve DID preform the first sin!

Trace your way back: The first mated couple born from near-human apes. If we were to lable these two as Adam and Eve, we may go to the next stage.

We shall look at the standard Christian teachings. Oh my, that's a lot of sins, isn't it!? Well, by logic, we must assume that at least ONE of the two had at least ONCE in their lives performed some sort of sin.

Q.E.D.  

[Sanguvixen]

Supposedly Eve performed the first sin by eating the apple. Then she enticed her husband to eat the apple too. Thus they both sinned and were thrown out of the Garden of Eden.

What I don't understand, is how could our population have ever existed if there were only 1 man and 1 women to start with. When they had children...the children would have had to have sex with each other to create more children.

So...is that the religious's explanation for our existance? We are all the product of Children having sex with thier siblings to help make more humans? Something isn't right there.

In the story Eve sinned first. That is why for many ages, women were treated inferior to man.

 

[~Fashionably~Challanged~]

Sanguvixen

Supposedly Eve performed the first sin by eating the apple. Then she enticed her husband to eat the apple too. Thus they both sinned and were thrown out of the Garden of Eden.

What I don't understand, is how could our population have ever existed if there were only 1 man and 1 women to start with. When they had children...the children would have had to have sex with each other to create more children.

So...is that the religious's explanation for our existance? We are all the product of Children having sex with thier siblings to help make more humans? Something isn't right there.

In the story Eve sinned first. That is why for many ages, women were treated inferior to man.

We should have been cherished for being the first to see the light. 3nodding But ya, there would be alot of interbreeding, we'd all have horrid deseases.  

[Napoleon_Danneskjold]

Sanguvixen

In the story Eve sinned first. That is why for many ages, women were treated inferior to man.

No it isn't. Several societies that did not have that story have been patriarchal as well biggrin  

[~Fashionably~Challanged~]

darkmusashi

Sanguvixen

In the story Eve sinned first. That is why for many ages, women were treated inferior to man.

No it isn't. Several societies that did not have that story have been patriarchal as well biggrin

Well, most that follow one god agree with it.  

[iviary]

katthevamp1

darkmusashi

Sanguvixen

In the story Eve sinned first. That is why for many ages, women were treated inferior to man.

No it isn't. Several societies that did not have that story have been patriarchal as well biggrin

Well, most that follow one god agree with it.

But not necessarily due to "Original Sin".  

[~Fashionably~Challanged~]

iviary

katthevamp1

darkmusashi

Sanguvixen

In the story Eve sinned first. That is why for many ages, women were treated inferior to man.

No it isn't. Several societies that did not have that story have been patriarchal as well biggrin

Well, most that follow one god agree with it.

But not necessarily due to "Original Sin".

True. What I don't get is why thier children should be punished for thier parents sins.  

[Sanguvixen]

iviary

katthevamp1

darkmusashi

Sanguvixen

In the story Eve sinned first. That is why for many ages, women were treated inferior to man.

No it isn't. Several societies that did not have that story have been patriarchal as well biggrin

Well, most that follow one god agree with it.

But not necessarily due to "Original Sin".

Oops. I forgot to add the other part to that. As far as the Bible is concerned "God" made man first. Then made women second. Maybe I should have put that tid-bit in there.

I can only speak for the bible based religions on why they treated women as they did.

Interestingly enough in Native American Society women had equal status with men because they had responsiblities and stuff.

I remember being in sunday school once when I was little. I asked a nun why the preacher was nicer to guys than girls. She told me it is because women sinned first and thus are below men. Talk about idiocy... talk2hand

 

[Yami_Ichi]

What is your definition of sin? People use it as a bible term alot, and others use it as not.

Also, everyone has their own conceptions of what is right and what is wrong. So, did they do something wrong according to THEIR standards, or are we looking at it as they did something wrong through the standards of others?

 

[Sanguvixen]

Yami_Ichi

What is your definition of sin? People use it as a bible term alot, and others use it as not.

Also, everyone has their own conceptions of what is right and what is wrong. So, did they do something wrong according to THEIR standards, or are we looking at it as they did something wrong through the standards of others?

I don't know a definate defination. I guess a Sin would constitute breaking one of the laws in the Ten Commandments if you look at it at a theistic stand-point.

To call a wrong a "Sin" is purely a religious thing. In the real world there is no such thing as sin. Just right and wrong as we percieve it, and the laws that the gov't sets down for others to obey.

 

[HaileSelassie601993]

Hey, don't forget about Lilith, the third human who was created under mysterious circumstances.  

[Orson Welles]

Sanguvixen

iviary

katthevamp1

darkmusashi

Sanguvixen

In the story Eve sinned first. That is why for many ages, women were treated inferior to man.

No it isn't. Several societies that did not have that story have been patriarchal as well biggrin

Well, most that follow one god agree with it.

But not necessarily due to "Original Sin".

Oops. I forgot to add the other part to that. As far as the Bible is concerned "God" made man first. Then made women second. Maybe I should have put that tid-bit in there.

I can only speak for the bible based religions on why they treated women as they did.

Interestingly enough in Native American Society women had equal status with men because they had responsiblities and stuff.

I remember being in sunday school once when I was little. I asked a nun why the preacher was nicer to guys than girls. She told me it is because women sinned first and thus are below men. Talk about idiocy... talk2hand

I don't see how that works at all. Sure, women may have sinned first, but who cares? Both Adam and Eve sinned. It was just Eve who sinned before Adam. rolleyes  

[Sanguvixen]

Blasphemize

Sanguvixen

iviary

katthevamp1

darkmusashi

Sanguvixen

In the story Eve sinned first. That is why for many ages, women were treated inferior to man.

No it isn't. Several societies that did not have that story have been patriarchal as well biggrin

Well, most that follow one god agree with it.

But not necessarily due to "Original Sin".

Oops. I forgot to add the other part to that. As far as the Bible is concerned "God" made man first. Then made women second. Maybe I should have put that tid-bit in there.

I can only speak for the bible based religions on why they treated women as they did.

Interestingly enough in Native American Society women had equal status with men because they had responsiblities and stuff.

I remember being in sunday school once when I was little. I asked a nun why the preacher was nicer to guys than girls. She told me it is because women sinned first and thus are below men. Talk about idiocy... talk2hand

I don't see how that works at all. Sure, women may have sinned first, but who cares? Both Adam and Eve sinned. It was just Eve who sinned before Adam. rolleyes

I don't understand the logic either. Anyway...the Garden of Eden seemed like a boring place in my opinion. Who wants to live in a place like that? Not me!

 

[DivideByZero14]

I think it was because Eve tempted Adam to sin after she did...right? Maybe I have my theology wrong, but I think it's because she led Adam to sin, and, therefore, since all women descend from her, all women are vile, overly curious temptresses. (Not what I say! Just the bible...)  

[Sanguvixen]

DivideByZero14

I think it was because Eve tempted Adam to sin after she did...right? Maybe I have my theology wrong, but I think it's because she led Adam to sin, and, therefore, since all women descend from her, all women are vile, overly curious temptresses. (Not what I say! Just the bible...)

Yep...that is what the Bible says. ******** the bible though...men are no better.

I've lived with several different brothers in my mother's home...and each one of them are lazy, spineless, gutless worms. Funny how as the only female my mom gave birth to...and the only other female living in the house at any given time "I'm the one who takes care of everything." The men are lazy and don't like to work.

I'm not saying all men are like that....but you have bad eggs on all sides. Who is a book full of holes to say that I'm a vile temptress?

It goes back to the age old stereotype that began when Men decided women shouldn't have jobs and should stay at home.....Men are not better than Women, and Women are not better than Men. We are equal in almost every sense except for the small detail that men are usually physically stronger. That doesn't mean much though.