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animegurl4evr

PostPosted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 12:31 pm


i'm a pencil artist. i hate when i draw something and my hand brushes against it leaving smudges and pencil lead on the side of my hand. also when it gets smudged from paper over the drawing cause i've started drawing in a sketch book. well sketch book or not paper rubbing on top is.. grr xp domokun
PostPosted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 12:34 pm


of course normally i've been using the ole' regular pencil not those h8 or h9, ect. i don't get what's different about those, i mean what they do. it all seems the same.

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Phishy Fish

PostPosted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 1:19 pm


Happens to me too. gonk

About the pencil thing... they have different "softness" or something. So like, a 6B pencil would be easier to use up than a 2B pencil since it's "softer."
Hah, dunno how to explain it well.
PostPosted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 1:28 pm


Art pencils, unlike normal school pencils or whatever, are made almost entirely of graphite. This is present in normal pencils as well but is generally mixed with plastic. The hard/softness of the graphite is what determines the type of pencil, from 12H to 12B. H means hard, and the graphite in the pencil is hard, which means not as much of it will go down on paper. The harder the pencil the lighter the mark. B, for whatever reason, stands for soft. This type of pencil will make darker marks, and will also smudge a lot more easily. There is an F type pencil somewhere in the middle, which I don't really understand, but it's there.

To keep from smudging I recommend three things:
1) The simplest way would be to use a harder pencil, but then you miss out on the darkness of softer pencils.
2) The next option is to learn to hold your pencil so that your hand doesn't lean on the paper. I figured this out early on and it always drove my friends nuts that I never smudged anything.
3) If you can't do any of the above, the best thing would be to draw your pictures from left to right or right to left, depending on which hand you draw with.

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S. Shark

PostPosted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 3:37 pm


I hate that too. That's why I have a tablet. No pencil, no graphite, thus, no smudges! Pwahahahaha. twisted

Have you tried putting a piece of paper under your hand while you draw? It's kinda a pain in the a**, but it works okay if you remember to. I've also heard wearing one of the wrist sweatband things works, but haven't tried it myself...
PostPosted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 5:30 pm


I haven't been blessed with an artistic pencil set so I sadly have to use school type pencils. I usually avoid smudges by simply inking in the details to prevent them from being smudged off sweatdrop Not much help eh?

But I would say try and get used to holding your pencil in a way where you do not rest your hand on the paper as well as start your drawing from the opposite side of your drawing hand.

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GB_Lady

PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 12:03 pm


Hmm... I tried wearing a surgical latex glove once..... Anyway, do you usually smudge when you try to wipe away eraser crumbs? My bro bought this architect sweeper thing and I usually use it to sweep the crumbs away to avoid smudging work with my hands.

Anyway, I say to take a separate piece of paper for your hand to rest on to be a barrier between your hand and your pencil art.

Also, the b type lead tends to smudge more because it's soft. The higher the b # lead, the softer it is. (At least I think so.) I go with hb because it's between hard and soft lead. ^^; I don't know how to use the art pencils too effectively.

I wonder if you should use fixative afterwards.... >.>;
PostPosted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 11:16 pm


B pencils are a softer pencil, smudging easily, but laying down a dark line and making shading very easy. H pencils are hard, wearing down slowly and making light lines that DO NOT smudge and are suitable for planning a picture as they do not show on scanners.
While I currently don't have one, the 9B pencil is comprable to charcoal, making a solid black line, but, unlike charcoal, it becomes blunt very easily, making sharp lines in shapes a near impossibility. There is also a problem with H pencils - 6H, the hardest one I have, often leaves indent lines in the paper, making it difficult to ink the picture later without the ink running through the indents.

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Pann-yu

PostPosted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 8:38 pm


You can try putting a napkin or something under your hand so your bare hand doesn't touch the paper. It works with paint, so it should work with pencil too. XP
PostPosted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 9:29 pm


please see my Deviantart page.
http://azikiel.deviantart.com

for me.. both pencil and the digital are.. when combined.. are great tools for creating the most excellent artwork.

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PinkGhost

PostPosted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 11:04 pm


You've pretty much have two choices: a piece of paper, or holding your hand differently.

For the paper option, weak scotch tape to hold the paper down works well to keep the paper from moving, because paper can smudge the pencil as well. That said, remember not to slide the paper when you move it to draw somewhere else; lift it up and place it down again instead.

If you would rather hold your hand a different way, it takes a bit of energy. If you want to draw while sitting, you can use your pinky, so that your hand isn't touching the paper, but it's still resting on your pinky. You could also draw while standing up, with an easel, the usual "pose" for painters. This works for sketchers too, plus you get better perspective.

I have that problem all the time, but I shade, and everything just gets darker anyways. If I really want to make it white, I just use an eraser. ;D
PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 8:37 am


i usually just use a mechanical pencil because the led is always sharp and draws thin lines but you can still smudge so i try lifting my wrist a lil whne im going over my art its difficult but helps

Shikyo Kumori


Midori-chan

PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 12:47 pm


If you want to go all hardcore, go to an art store and buy the spray that seals the pencil to the paper. You can still draw on top of it after you spray it, but if you're not using good-quality pencils and paper, don't bother, as it's not meant for sketches on computer paper.

If you do buy the spray, use it outside. NEVER use it indoors.
PostPosted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 11:56 am


biggrin I usually let my eraser shavings stay on the paper, it doesn't mess up the drawing or anything and it keeps my hand from smearing the pencil

Sie Shee


rhyswinterz

PostPosted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 4:57 pm


About what Midori-chan mentioned earlier about the spray, if I remember, and correct me if i'm wrong, but I think hair spray is a possible alternative ...can be a little sticky, so it's really more used at the end of the finished.
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