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yalie5 Cat-Whiskers yalie5 okay i did not claim the germans might have whitewashed history. i only asked what makes you so sure that they didn't? and i'm not pointing fingers and accusing people. just stating some things i've heard from my teachers. and no neo-nazis are not a huge influential force in germany because so many of them live in florida. eek And exactly what types of arguing is going on here? i do beleive we were talking about textbooks and riots. The Germans, after their defeat in WWII, split into East and West Germany. The east was governed by communist USSR, whereas the west was governed by the rest of the allies. During this period it would be impossible to print a book glorifying the holocaust, from basic logic. After the reunification of the two Germanys each of the Chancellors always apologized to the Jewish victims during WWII memorials (you can double check on this if you like), and one of the Chancellors even won the Nobel Peace Prize due to his grievance over the holocaust. As you can see the majority of the Germans know the holocaust is wrong, and to even try to promote that the holocaust is a good thing in Germany would be unthinkable. That's why I'm so sure of it. what does that have to do with what we're arguing about? we're getting off track again. btw have you noticed that you mainly refer historical stuff to the germans while talking about the japanese? (that's just as far as i can tell.) Well you asked me what made me so sure that the Germans didn't do it, so I explained why. As for why I always draw a parallel comparison between the Germans and the Japanese, it's because they share many similarities. Both commited atrocities during WWII, both were of the Axies, both were defeated and had risen from poverty to become respected countries in the world. The only difference between them is how they treat their history during WWII, and how the world seem to have this double standard for them.
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Cat-Whiskers yalie5 Cat-Whiskers yalie5 okay i did not claim the germans might have whitewashed history. i only asked what makes you so sure that they didn't? and i'm not pointing fingers and accusing people. just stating some things i've heard from my teachers. and no neo-nazis are not a huge influential force in germany because so many of them live in florida. eek And exactly what types of arguing is going on here? i do beleive we were talking about textbooks and riots. The Germans, after their defeat in WWII, split into East and West Germany. The east was governed by communist USSR, whereas the west was governed by the rest of the allies. During this period it would be impossible to print a book glorifying the holocaust, from basic logic. After the reunification of the two Germanys each of the Chancellors always apologized to the Jewish victims during WWII memorials (you can double check on this if you like), and one of the Chancellors even won the Nobel Peace Prize due to his grievance over the holocaust. As you can see the majority of the Germans know the holocaust is wrong, and to even try to promote that the holocaust is a good thing in Germany would be unthinkable. That's why I'm so sure of it. what does that have to do with what we're arguing about? we're getting off track again. btw have you noticed that you mainly refer historical stuff to the germans while talking about the japanese? (that's just as far as i can tell.) Well you asked me what made me so sure that the Germans didn't do it, so I explained why. As for why I always draw a parallel comparison between the Germans and the Japanese, it's because they share many similarities. Both commited atrocities during WWII, both were of the Axies, both were defeated and had risen from poverty to become respected countries in the world. The only difference between them is how they treat their history during WWII, and how the world seem to have this double standard for them. oh. you know that might have been good a few post back. anyways i also notice that you bring up world war 2 often. And the first people you seem to attack (forgive me for using the term. couldn't think of a better word) are the japanese. and also you bring up the atrocities of the japanese so often. have you forgotten that Japan and Germany aren't the only ones who committed atrocities?
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yalie5 Cat-Whiskers yalie5 Cat-Whiskers yalie5 okay i did not claim the germans might have whitewashed history. i only asked what makes you so sure that they didn't? and i'm not pointing fingers and accusing people. just stating some things i've heard from my teachers. and no neo-nazis are not a huge influential force in germany because so many of them live in florida. eek And exactly what types of arguing is going on here? i do beleive we were talking about textbooks and riots. The Germans, after their defeat in WWII, split into East and West Germany. The east was governed by communist USSR, whereas the west was governed by the rest of the allies. During this period it would be impossible to print a book glorifying the holocaust, from basic logic. After the reunification of the two Germanys each of the Chancellors always apologized to the Jewish victims during WWII memorials (you can double check on this if you like), and one of the Chancellors even won the Nobel Peace Prize due to his grievance over the holocaust. As you can see the majority of the Germans know the holocaust is wrong, and to even try to promote that the holocaust is a good thing in Germany would be unthinkable. That's why I'm so sure of it. what does that have to do with what we're arguing about? we're getting off track again. btw have you noticed that you mainly refer historical stuff to the germans while talking about the japanese? (that's just as far as i can tell.) Well you asked me what made me so sure that the Germans didn't do it, so I explained why. As for why I always draw a parallel comparison between the Germans and the Japanese, it's because they share many similarities. Both commited atrocities during WWII, both were of the Axies, both were defeated and had risen from poverty to become respected countries in the world. The only difference between them is how they treat their history during WWII, and how the world seem to have this double standard for them. oh. you know that might have been good a few post back. anyways i also notice that you bring up world war 2 often. And the first people you seem to attack (forgive me for using the term. couldn't think of a better word) are the japanese. and also you bring up the atrocities of the japanese so often. have you forgotten that Japan and Germany aren't the only ones who committed atrocities? My family suffered directly due to the Japanese invasion, can't blame me if I hold a grudge. Call it patriotism or vendetta or whatever you like, but I doubt I can ever put it behind me until they get down on their knees and beg for forgivness.
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Cat-Whiskers yalie5 Cat-Whiskers yalie5 Cat-Whiskers yalie5 okay i did not claim the germans might have whitewashed history. i only asked what makes you so sure that they didn't? and i'm not pointing fingers and accusing people. just stating some things i've heard from my teachers. and no neo-nazis are not a huge influential force in germany because so many of them live in florida. eek And exactly what types of arguing is going on here? i do beleive we were talking about textbooks and riots. The Germans, after their defeat in WWII, split into East and West Germany. The east was governed by communist USSR, whereas the west was governed by the rest of the allies. During this period it would be impossible to print a book glorifying the holocaust, from basic logic. After the reunification of the two Germanys each of the Chancellors always apologized to the Jewish victims during WWII memorials (you can double check on this if you like), and one of the Chancellors even won the Nobel Peace Prize due to his grievance over the holocaust. As you can see the majority of the Germans know the holocaust is wrong, and to even try to promote that the holocaust is a good thing in Germany would be unthinkable. That's why I'm so sure of it. what does that have to do with what we're arguing about? we're getting off track again. btw have you noticed that you mainly refer historical stuff to the germans while talking about the japanese? (that's just as far as i can tell.) Well you asked me what made me so sure that the Germans didn't do it, so I explained why. As for why I always draw a parallel comparison between the Germans and the Japanese, it's because they share many similarities. Both commited atrocities during WWII, both were of the Axies, both were defeated and had risen from poverty to become respected countries in the world. The only difference between them is how they treat their history during WWII, and how the world seem to have this double standard for them. oh. you know that might have been good a few post back. anyways i also notice that you bring up world war 2 often. And the first people you seem to attack (forgive me for using the term. couldn't think of a better word) are the japanese. and also you bring up the atrocities of the japanese so often. have you forgotten that Japan and Germany aren't the only ones who committed atrocities? My family suffered directly due to the Japanese invasion, can't blame me if I hold a grudge. Call it patriotism or vendetta or whatever you like, but I doubt I can ever put it behind me until they get down on their knees and beg for forgivness. I suppose... but i think the whole of china suffered directly from japanese invasions among other invasions.
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yalie5 Cat-Whiskers yalie5 Cat-Whiskers yalie5 Cat-Whiskers yalie5 okay i did not claim the germans might have whitewashed history. i only asked what makes you so sure that they didn't? and i'm not pointing fingers and accusing people. just stating some things i've heard from my teachers. and no neo-nazis are not a huge influential force in germany because so many of them live in florida. eek And exactly what types of arguing is going on here? i do beleive we were talking about textbooks and riots. The Germans, after their defeat in WWII, split into East and West Germany. The east was governed by communist USSR, whereas the west was governed by the rest of the allies. During this period it would be impossible to print a book glorifying the holocaust, from basic logic. After the reunification of the two Germanys each of the Chancellors always apologized to the Jewish victims during WWII memorials (you can double check on this if you like), and one of the Chancellors even won the Nobel Peace Prize due to his grievance over the holocaust. As you can see the majority of the Germans know the holocaust is wrong, and to even try to promote that the holocaust is a good thing in Germany would be unthinkable. That's why I'm so sure of it. what does that have to do with what we're arguing about? we're getting off track again. btw have you noticed that you mainly refer historical stuff to the germans while talking about the japanese? (that's just as far as i can tell.) Well you asked me what made me so sure that the Germans didn't do it, so I explained why. As for why I always draw a parallel comparison between the Germans and the Japanese, it's because they share many similarities. Both commited atrocities during WWII, both were of the Axies, both were defeated and had risen from poverty to become respected countries in the world. The only difference between them is how they treat their history during WWII, and how the world seem to have this double standard for them. oh. you know that might have been good a few post back. anyways i also notice that you bring up world war 2 often. And the first people you seem to attack (forgive me for using the term. couldn't think of a better word) are the japanese. and also you bring up the atrocities of the japanese so often. have you forgotten that Japan and Germany aren't the only ones who committed atrocities? My family suffered directly due to the Japanese invasion, can't blame me if I hold a grudge. Call it patriotism or vendetta or whatever you like, but I doubt I can ever put it behind me until they get down on their knees and beg for forgivness. I suppose... but i think the whole of china suffered directly from japanese invasions among other invasions. Oh yes, not just Japan, there's U.S., Russia, Germany, France, Austria, Britain, and Italy as well, but those are... can't say they're not as bad, just not as recent.
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Cat-Whiskers yalie5 Cat-Whiskers yalie5 Cat-Whiskers yalie5 Cat-Whiskers yalie5 okay i did not claim the germans might have whitewashed history. i only asked what makes you so sure that they didn't? and i'm not pointing fingers and accusing people. just stating some things i've heard from my teachers. and no neo-nazis are not a huge influential force in germany because so many of them live in florida. eek And exactly what types of arguing is going on here? i do beleive we were talking about textbooks and riots. The Germans, after their defeat in WWII, split into East and West Germany. The east was governed by communist USSR, whereas the west was governed by the rest of the allies. During this period it would be impossible to print a book glorifying the holocaust, from basic logic. After the reunification of the two Germanys each of the Chancellors always apologized to the Jewish victims during WWII memorials (you can double check on this if you like), and one of the Chancellors even won the Nobel Peace Prize due to his grievance over the holocaust. As you can see the majority of the Germans know the holocaust is wrong, and to even try to promote that the holocaust is a good thing in Germany would be unthinkable. That's why I'm so sure of it. what does that have to do with what we're arguing about? we're getting off track again. btw have you noticed that you mainly refer historical stuff to the germans while talking about the japanese? (that's just as far as i can tell.) Well you asked me what made me so sure that the Germans didn't do it, so I explained why. As for why I always draw a parallel comparison between the Germans and the Japanese, it's because they share many similarities. Both commited atrocities during WWII, both were of the Axies, both were defeated and had risen from poverty to become respected countries in the world. The only difference between them is how they treat their history during WWII, and how the world seem to have this double standard for them. oh. you know that might have been good a few post back. anyways i also notice that you bring up world war 2 often. And the first people you seem to attack (forgive me for using the term. couldn't think of a better word) are the japanese. and also you bring up the atrocities of the japanese so often. have you forgotten that Japan and Germany aren't the only ones who committed atrocities? My family suffered directly due to the Japanese invasion, can't blame me if I hold a grudge. Call it patriotism or vendetta or whatever you like, but I doubt I can ever put it behind me until they get down on their knees and beg for forgivness. I suppose... but i think the whole of china suffered directly from japanese invasions among other invasions. Oh yes, not just Japan, there's U.S., Russia, Germany, France, Austria, Britain, and Italy as well, but those are... can't say they're not as bad, just not as recent. true... but what about the vietnam wars where americans fought the communist. even though it wasn't in china there was chinese troops... or was that korea? I'm just setting myself up here aren't i? stare
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yalie5 Cat-Whiskers yalie5 Cat-Whiskers yalie5 Cat-Whiskers yalie5 Cat-Whiskers yalie5 okay i did not claim the germans might have whitewashed history. i only asked what makes you so sure that they didn't? and i'm not pointing fingers and accusing people. just stating some things i've heard from my teachers. and no neo-nazis are not a huge influential force in germany because so many of them live in florida. eek And exactly what types of arguing is going on here? i do beleive we were talking about textbooks and riots. The Germans, after their defeat in WWII, split into East and West Germany. The east was governed by communist USSR, whereas the west was governed by the rest of the allies. During this period it would be impossible to print a book glorifying the holocaust, from basic logic. After the reunification of the two Germanys each of the Chancellors always apologized to the Jewish victims during WWII memorials (you can double check on this if you like), and one of the Chancellors even won the Nobel Peace Prize due to his grievance over the holocaust. As you can see the majority of the Germans know the holocaust is wrong, and to even try to promote that the holocaust is a good thing in Germany would be unthinkable. That's why I'm so sure of it. what does that have to do with what we're arguing about? we're getting off track again. btw have you noticed that you mainly refer historical stuff to the germans while talking about the japanese? (that's just as far as i can tell.) Well you asked me what made me so sure that the Germans didn't do it, so I explained why. As for why I always draw a parallel comparison between the Germans and the Japanese, it's because they share many similarities. Both commited atrocities during WWII, both were of the Axies, both were defeated and had risen from poverty to become respected countries in the world. The only difference between them is how they treat their history during WWII, and how the world seem to have this double standard for them. oh. you know that might have been good a few post back. anyways i also notice that you bring up world war 2 often. And the first people you seem to attack (forgive me for using the term. couldn't think of a better word) are the japanese. and also you bring up the atrocities of the japanese so often. have you forgotten that Japan and Germany aren't the only ones who committed atrocities? My family suffered directly due to the Japanese invasion, can't blame me if I hold a grudge. Call it patriotism or vendetta or whatever you like, but I doubt I can ever put it behind me until they get down on their knees and beg for forgivness. I suppose... but i think the whole of china suffered directly from japanese invasions among other invasions. Oh yes, not just Japan, there's U.S., Russia, Germany, France, Austria, Britain, and Italy as well, but those are... can't say they're not as bad, just not as recent. true... but what about the vietnam wars where americans fought the communist. even though it wasn't in china there was chinese troops... or was that korea? I'm just setting myself up here aren't i? stare The Chinese were involved in both wars... and as you can see I have no love for Americans evil
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Cat-Whiskers yalie5 Cat-Whiskers yalie5 Cat-Whiskers yalie5 Cat-Whiskers yalie5 Cat-Whiskers yalie5 okay i did not claim the germans might have whitewashed history. i only asked what makes you so sure that they didn't? and i'm not pointing fingers and accusing people. just stating some things i've heard from my teachers. and no neo-nazis are not a huge influential force in germany because so many of them live in florida. eek And exactly what types of arguing is going on here? i do beleive we were talking about textbooks and riots. The Germans, after their defeat in WWII, split into East and West Germany. The east was governed by communist USSR, whereas the west was governed by the rest of the allies. During this period it would be impossible to print a book glorifying the holocaust, from basic logic. After the reunification of the two Germanys each of the Chancellors always apologized to the Jewish victims during WWII memorials (you can double check on this if you like), and one of the Chancellors even won the Nobel Peace Prize due to his grievance over the holocaust. As you can see the majority of the Germans know the holocaust is wrong, and to even try to promote that the holocaust is a good thing in Germany would be unthinkable. That's why I'm so sure of it. what does that have to do with what we're arguing about? we're getting off track again. btw have you noticed that you mainly refer historical stuff to the germans while talking about the japanese? (that's just as far as i can tell.) Well you asked me what made me so sure that the Germans didn't do it, so I explained why. As for why I always draw a parallel comparison between the Germans and the Japanese, it's because they share many similarities. Both commited atrocities during WWII, both were of the Axies, both were defeated and had risen from poverty to become respected countries in the world. The only difference between them is how they treat their history during WWII, and how the world seem to have this double standard for them. oh. you know that might have been good a few post back. anyways i also notice that you bring up world war 2 often. And the first people you seem to attack (forgive me for using the term. couldn't think of a better word) are the japanese. and also you bring up the atrocities of the japanese so often. have you forgotten that Japan and Germany aren't the only ones who committed atrocities? My family suffered directly due to the Japanese invasion, can't blame me if I hold a grudge. Call it patriotism or vendetta or whatever you like, but I doubt I can ever put it behind me until they get down on their knees and beg for forgivness. I suppose... but i think the whole of china suffered directly from japanese invasions among other invasions. Oh yes, not just Japan, there's U.S., Russia, Germany, France, Austria, Britain, and Italy as well, but those are... can't say they're not as bad, just not as recent. true... but what about the vietnam wars where americans fought the communist. even though it wasn't in china there was chinese troops... or was that korea? I'm just setting myself up here aren't i? stare The Chinese were involved in both wars... and as you can see I have no love for Americans evil i'm american... are you trying to say something?
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yalie5 Cat-Whiskers yalie5 Cat-Whiskers yalie5 Cat-Whiskers yalie5 Cat-Whiskers yalie5 Cat-Whiskers yalie5 okay i did not claim the germans might have whitewashed history. i only asked what makes you so sure that they didn't? and i'm not pointing fingers and accusing people. just stating some things i've heard from my teachers. and no neo-nazis are not a huge influential force in germany because so many of them live in florida. eek And exactly what types of arguing is going on here? i do beleive we were talking about textbooks and riots. The Germans, after their defeat in WWII, split into East and West Germany. The east was governed by communist USSR, whereas the west was governed by the rest of the allies. During this period it would be impossible to print a book glorifying the holocaust, from basic logic. After the reunification of the two Germanys each of the Chancellors always apologized to the Jewish victims during WWII memorials (you can double check on this if you like), and one of the Chancellors even won the Nobel Peace Prize due to his grievance over the holocaust. As you can see the majority of the Germans know the holocaust is wrong, and to even try to promote that the holocaust is a good thing in Germany would be unthinkable. That's why I'm so sure of it. what does that have to do with what we're arguing about? we're getting off track again. btw have you noticed that you mainly refer historical stuff to the germans while talking about the japanese? (that's just as far as i can tell.) Well you asked me what made me so sure that the Germans didn't do it, so I explained why. As for why I always draw a parallel comparison between the Germans and the Japanese, it's because they share many similarities. Both commited atrocities during WWII, both were of the Axies, both were defeated and had risen from poverty to become respected countries in the world. The only difference between them is how they treat their history during WWII, and how the world seem to have this double standard for them. oh. you know that might have been good a few post back. anyways i also notice that you bring up world war 2 often. And the first people you seem to attack (forgive me for using the term. couldn't think of a better word) are the japanese. and also you bring up the atrocities of the japanese so often. have you forgotten that Japan and Germany aren't the only ones who committed atrocities? My family suffered directly due to the Japanese invasion, can't blame me if I hold a grudge. Call it patriotism or vendetta or whatever you like, but I doubt I can ever put it behind me until they get down on their knees and beg for forgivness. I suppose... but i think the whole of china suffered directly from japanese invasions among other invasions. Oh yes, not just Japan, there's U.S., Russia, Germany, France, Austria, Britain, and Italy as well, but those are... can't say they're not as bad, just not as recent. true... but what about the vietnam wars where americans fought the communist. even though it wasn't in china there was chinese troops... or was that korea? I'm just setting myself up here aren't i? stare The Chinese were involved in both wars... and as you can see I have no love for Americans evil i'm american... are you trying to say something? American Government stare
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Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 11:10 pm
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Cat-Whiskers yalie5 Cat-Whiskers yalie5 Cat-Whiskers yalie5 Cat-Whiskers yalie5 Cat-Whiskers yalie5 Cat-Whiskers yalie5 okay i did not claim the germans might have whitewashed history. i only asked what makes you so sure that they didn't? and i'm not pointing fingers and accusing people. just stating some things i've heard from my teachers. and no neo-nazis are not a huge influential force in germany because so many of them live in florida. eek And exactly what types of arguing is going on here? i do beleive we were talking about textbooks and riots. The Germans, after their defeat in WWII, split into East and West Germany. The east was governed by communist USSR, whereas the west was governed by the rest of the allies. During this period it would be impossible to print a book glorifying the holocaust, from basic logic. After the reunification of the two Germanys each of the Chancellors always apologized to the Jewish victims during WWII memorials (you can double check on this if you like), and one of the Chancellors even won the Nobel Peace Prize due to his grievance over the holocaust. As you can see the majority of the Germans know the holocaust is wrong, and to even try to promote that the holocaust is a good thing in Germany would be unthinkable. That's why I'm so sure of it. what does that have to do with what we're arguing about? we're getting off track again. btw have you noticed that you mainly refer historical stuff to the germans while talking about the japanese? (that's just as far as i can tell.) Well you asked me what made me so sure that the Germans didn't do it, so I explained why. As for why I always draw a parallel comparison between the Germans and the Japanese, it's because they share many similarities. Both commited atrocities during WWII, both were of the Axies, both were defeated and had risen from poverty to become respected countries in the world. The only difference between them is how they treat their history during WWII, and how the world seem to have this double standard for them. oh. you know that might have been good a few post back. anyways i also notice that you bring up world war 2 often. And the first people you seem to attack (forgive me for using the term. couldn't think of a better word) are the japanese. and also you bring up the atrocities of the japanese so often. have you forgotten that Japan and Germany aren't the only ones who committed atrocities? My family suffered directly due to the Japanese invasion, can't blame me if I hold a grudge. Call it patriotism or vendetta or whatever you like, but I doubt I can ever put it behind me until they get down on their knees and beg for forgivness. I suppose... but i think the whole of china suffered directly from japanese invasions among other invasions. Oh yes, not just Japan, there's U.S., Russia, Germany, France, Austria, Britain, and Italy as well, but those are... can't say they're not as bad, just not as recent. true... but what about the vietnam wars where americans fought the communist. even though it wasn't in china there was chinese troops... or was that korea? I'm just setting myself up here aren't i? stare The Chinese were involved in both wars... and as you can see I have no love for Americans evil i'm american... are you trying to say something? American Government stare meh most of us hate them. but try to see the logic of the goverment's decision from the government's point of veiw.
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Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 2:32 am
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Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 4:44 am
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Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 6:04 am
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