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Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 6:13 am
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Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 7:37 pm
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Yeah, I know. But Capcom has said that the first half of the game will be much more action-oriented, like RE4, while the second half of the game will be scarier, more puzzle-based, and less linear than RE4 with some more traditional locales. Here's hoping. cheese_whine
I actually downloaded the demo and played it today... I have to say, I wasn't very impressed. I mean, I knew going into it that it was gonna play like RE4, but seriously. The enemies have the exact same animations that the Ganados had in RE4 when you shot them. It wasn't like that when we went from RE to RE2. The zombies had completely new animations. C'mon now. You guys have been working on this game for how long? Five years now? And you'd think they'd add the ability to move while aiming and shooting. It's kind of awkward that the left analog just sticks when you aim, and you have to switch over to the right analog to control your aim. It just feels like something's missing there. In RE4, the left analog controlled your aim. I don't see the point in switching it over to the right analog if you can't move while aiming.
And another thing that kind of bothered me... I have no problems with the F-word, and you'll often see it in my posts and everyday conversation. But I really don't like how they're just kind of pointlessly adding it into games now. Shock value? I don't know. I'm just not used to F-bombs in my RE games. It seems like every game I play nowadays has the F-word in there. Hell, even MGS4 had one.
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Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 9:27 pm
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Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 1:23 am
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Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 1:26 am
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Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 2:40 am
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Well, Gears of War was heavily influenced by RE4. The development team themselves named it as the primary influence, and expressed their love for the game. So it took RE4's template and built upon it, and numerous other games have followed suit, building upon the idea. I think Dead Space ultimately perfected it, showing that you could make Survival Horror game with RE4's formula. So the genre that RE4 has basically created (Third-Person Action Shooter) has been improved and built upon, and now RE is mirroring the tweaks that these games have made to it's template, while leaving very important enhancements out. Interestingly enough, most of the general public is criticizing RE5 for the very same thing I am. New-gen gamers and XBOX fanboys, some who are completely unfamiliar with the series, are complaining and claiming that they have canceled their preorders. They would be more happy if it was more like Gears of War or Dead Space, so that should put a smile on your face, Bio.
My impressions from the demo is that RE5 hasn't really updated anything from RE4. Aside from the inventory system that they ripped from Gears, it looks to be the same exact game with a fresh lick of paint. You could argue the same thing about the classic RE's, but almost all of them had a completely new engine which gave them all a unique feel (the exception being RE0), and each one of them had updated control mechanics and new features that kept them from feeling stale. The RE5 demo, however, felt stale right out of the box to me, and the awkward controls actually felt like a step back from RE4.
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Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 2:00 pm
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Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 3:05 pm
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Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 3:10 pm
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Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 7:39 pm
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Canas Renvall I dared to play the demo. I wanted to be able to squeeze every single droplet of flaw from it. Initial control scheme is annoying Initial aiming speed is slow Axe Man guy froze for no reason, basically I instant-won on him. Sheva's a ******** moron. Tried to go online. Got a disc read error. ...On a downloaded demo. I could go on, but I have to get dressed for the school dance tonight (Sadie's/Girl's Choice/girl asks the boy and pays, etc.). Do not buy the game, pass go, save $60. For someone who despises the new route on the game. Tell me, what were you hoping to gain other than what you already know?
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Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 7:40 pm
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I can has confession? I didn't play the demo. I went by word of mouth. *Dobby's self for lying*
But today, I did play the demo. For real. Tried to be as unbiased as possible to actually point out flaws. Just told Notte... to be unbiased, with every con came a pro. Here's the list, pros first.
Pros: - No more attache case. Not only is it like old-school RE's, but it's real-time. Stay on your toes. - So far, no people-sized parasites in the majinis. So far. - The game runs smooth as silk most of the time, and looks very nice. - The chainsaw majini is serious stuff. He won't ******** die. To keep tension high, you fight him in a relatively small area, giving you little time to reload. - Sheva's voice isn't all that bad. Not saying she's great, but her voice is good. - Same goes for Chris. He's not uber-macho sounding. - Capcom actually decided to pay royalties and man up. Chris doesn't use a Handgun; he uses an M92F. - Was wrong about Sheva. D: She's more useful than I would've thought. - Healing items are in short supply. And most of the demo I had just enough ammo to get me by, if that. I actually had to use the knife/machete/whatever it is. - The music. I can't believe it, but fighting the Executioner... the music reminded me of Silent Hill. - When your health is gone, you'd best hope Sheva's nearby. You'll stumble around in a hazy, blood-red state of Dying. If she's not there to recessitate you in time, you're done for. Same goes for you helping her. - Lots of new animations - Grenades, while present, are in very short supply. I got two hand grenades and one incendiary throughout both levels of the demo. - African is much lesser-known than Spanish. Unlike RE4, I don't know what the majini will do/are doing. - Unlike Chris, Sheva looks like a normal human being. No steroids involved. Still will never be as good as Jill though. - Like RE4, the mechanics work for what RE5 is supposed to deliver: an action, not horror, experience. - If you go into the sunlight, looking into shadows is nearly impossible. Makes you wonder if something's there or not. - The camera is frantic, which is nice for an action game. Always moving with motions. - No run-and-gun. At least not on Control Type A (the one I used). - Unlike the majini, the executioner doesn't wait for you to shoot him while he lollygags towards you. No. His bigass axe is swinging all over the ********' place. Get out of the way.
Now, the cons: - Control Type D feels weird. Stick to A. - Someone had the bright idea of switching the fire/reload and run buttons. Way to screw people up. - Wesker looks and sounds like fail incarnate (not from demo). - Why must every M-rated game drop the F-bomb now? Is it really necessary? - I said mostly, the game runs smooth. Once, though, the framerate plummeted for a few seconds. - Sheva has the uncanny ability to leap rather... far. She looks human; she doesn't act like it. - You thought pesetas were bad? They use actual gold now. Good luck carrying those gold bars, Chris. - Flying parasites. No. Just no. - Tricell is a failed attempt at neo-Umbrella (not from demo). - During most melee animations or the recessitation animation, you're invincible. Takes away from the realism of getting smacked around a bit. - While there are many new animations, there are just as many (probably more) reused animations. - Grenades may be few and far between, but they're there. - Just a demo, so I'm a little iffy on this one, but so far not one single puzzle. - Chris needs to tone down on the 'roid rage. - Chris's REmake voice actor wasted his talent on the menu voice. (While he did it in REmake, RE0, GC RE2, GC RE3, GC RE: CVX I think, he also did it for RE4 and RE5). - The gameplay mechanics. They work for an action game. I wanted horror. - Chris's head/arms take up, like, a quarter of your sight when aiming. Big arms aren't necessary... - Majini are just like ganados. Run run run HAAAALT. La-la-la*shot* - With one of the control types, you can strafe. - One of the control types has L1/LB aiming, R2/RB shooting. Way to try being MGS4.
Finally, I'm on the fence with these ones. It could be taken either way, depending on who you are.
Pros/Cons: - When you/Sheva heals, if both of you are near each other, the herb heals both of you. I think it's the normal amount of the herb and not half. I dunno. But remember, there are very limited healing items. - Chris has more melee attacks, none of which are overly flashy (like a certain someone's suplex has been replaced with an uppercut). One is stomping people SH-style. - The buddy system is like RE0's but without actually switching between people. - Along with RE0's buddy system, there was some Outbreak sprinkled in. If you or Sheva is in the Dying state, like crawling in Outbreak, the other would have to come help. Also, Sheva won't always listen to your commands. "Come on!" "Forget it!" - You can switch the map on and off. It's a real-time map in the upper right-hand corner. While it's nice not switching to it every three seconds, it's also more like an HUD. We don't want an HUD.
That's all single-player. I haven't attempted online yet. Purely gameplay-wise, it's similar to RE4 with lots of changes. Like RE4, it's a good action game but it rubs RE's d**k in the dirt. Once the story is revealed, however... *face darkens*
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Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 9:01 pm
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Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 9:13 pm
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