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The fetus is not an individual during the period in which abortions are legal. It's not legally a person because it is not conciously aware of its surroundings, so there is no such thing as saying "Abortion is Murder" or whatever Pro-Lifer's debate with.

What you're saying is just idiotic. Just because someone doesn't want a baby, doesn't mean they should abstain from sex. People use condom's all of the time and end up getting pregnant. Same with the pill. What are those people supposed to do?

What you are arguing for, is arguing against free will.

"It's not our choice, and if you don't want a baby you shouldn't have gotten in that deep of a relationship in the first place."

Don't you feel smart now, trying to go back on what you said. That alone makes me believe you're not even worthy of debating with, if you can't even keep track of what you say. But I'll continue anyways, because it's fun.


How many parentless kids in Africa are there, hmm? How many in Asia? America?

There are so many kids in the adoption circuit, and yet, here you are trying to tell me "omg people want to adopt a baby, and it HAS to be yours instead of the thousands upon thousands of others that are already out there."

Stop clinging to your morals and open your eyes to what's really going on. You're quite ignorant for someone who is so outspoken about their opinions.


I never said it wasn't alive. I said it's not its own "person".

Do YOU remember being inside your mothers womb? Hell, do you even remember a year after being born?? I don't think so.

You know people who have a such a traumatic experience or feel so much pain that they black out? What happens? They don't remember it. Their bodies felt pain, yes, but they don't remember it, so it's like it never happened to them. They never "felt" the pain. That's just what it's like for an aborted fetus.


Anything else you want to bring up?

I agree with most of the stuff you said... except for the first part and part of the second part. The mother can't decide because that's like deciding the fate of your child who is three 3 months old. Can it decide? No it can't even talk. And you can't say that the fetus is apart of the woman's body because if it were it would have the same DNA layout as the mother. You aren't your mom are you? No because of the fact it take two people to make one, bringing up the fact that the father should have a say in an abortion (less it's one of those hit and run type or really gruesome type then I think it's your full decision) And could you decide your fate if you were threatened by a man with a weapon, could you decide whether you live or die? NO because your not the one with the weapon, he is so he would decide whether you live or die, talking wouldn't even be necessary, only a scream because people who have the guts to approach you with a weapon are more likely to have some problem, making talking it out pretty useless. Going back to the fetus, even though it can't talk when someone with more power and strength over them revealing abortion devices, can it choose? No it's murder just re-read the story about the man with a weapon if you don't believe me.

I know people who grew up in a cruddy life, and there parents knew it. Fast food and Pizza Hut was considered a delicacy. But now and today they are very very successful people, even more successful than some of the people I knew that grew up in a "perfect childhood". Was your childhood perfect? As in everything your way, get wat you want, do what you do, etc. etc. we all have flaws in our childhood, both major or minor or even both. Life's not perfect there's ups and downs, but it doesn't hurt to give a kid a chance to try and succeed in life becuase some when they get around the teen age start noticing how they have to set and live their life and what's been going on to them. They set their goals and what they have to do. Unfortuanately not everyone can do that, so we assume because some can't no one can.

Your choice is to never have an abortion, at this time. But yet you sit in the stands of a group in which they are supporting it and finding all the evidence that they can to say it's right. They mainly convinced you to sit in their stands just because they want the majority rules over the pro-life people and vanquish them off the face of the earth, a typical political approach. Majority of the people I know that are pro-choice admit that abortion is wrong and a bad thing, but why do you consider yourself apart of a group that says it is right and your choice when you would never even consider it and look as a wrong thing? That would make you pro-life if you would never get one and thinks it's wrong. If your mind changes and conflicts start arrising, you may look differently, but that's just like a republican switching to democrat, you aren't gonna get shunned by the other group. It's common for a political group to make things sound good and fair and give you options because the more options they give you, the more likely someone is going to join because that party gives a large variety. I see a lot of democratic politicians doing that, not as much as the republicans. But again, that's why pro-choice rules, they give you extra options to make it sound good and fair but only because they want to destroy the competitor. In my opinion it's one or the other, blue or red, apple or the orange. Enough of my rantings I'm done 4laugh

"Woah, Woah, Woah! When did I ever say I was TOLD to believe this? This is a personal belief, a personal opinion and certainly has no political or religious influence. I never said abortion was right, either. I don't like killing something just like the next pro-lifer, but I will not condemn a mother to carry a child she does not want. That is the major debate. Not all this other crap. Humans have no right to tell someone what they have to do in certain situations. And yes, the fetus is the mother's responsibility. So yes, she does have the right to decide."

I misread some of that I guess then because with what I said didn't match.. idk. I can understand what you meant in most of the other things to. But I'm done with my ranting on this whole thing... I'll go my way, you go your way and where all happy. whee sorry for mis-understanding