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 Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 9:33 pm
To me a man is portrayed among the decades, by what modern man would call a fad... what we can learn about man is basically defined by their style...their way of life, what was in what was out...what words were in their vernacular?! I'd like to take a look at histories definition:
Leonardo Davinci depicted the perfect man in his eyes with art, (not rightly titled: "The Perfect Man") The nazi's (I am not supportive of them...) depicted the Jewish Man totally distorted, because at that time they hailed one man, Adolf Hitler, a man who in his eyes thought that the perfect man had Blonde hair,and blue eyes...not to mention that they must be christian.
Rightly because he thought the same thing that this topics first post was based on...he started a halocaust. It isn't right (in my opinion) to say that man has faded in these last few decades because if our man kind continues to struggle with full strength then they are just as great as ever.
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Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 5:41 am
It seems that a man cannot be all that nowadays without being called chauvenistic and an ego-maniac. I hate it when there are these butch women dragging around wimpy men- it's so wrong! scream
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Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 11:20 am
I think that men are many things. But, most of all they must be responsible. I can't STAND guys who let their girl be the responsible one.
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Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 12:29 pm
obviously i am not a man, but i'll tell you what i tell my son ...
no matter what you do during the course of your life always remember that the most important thing you have is honor. it is the only thing you truly own that nobody can take from you. always keep your word (stand by it), speak the truth, hold yourself responsible for your actions and carry yourself with dignity.
in my eyes ... these things are what truly define a man
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Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 9:49 pm
Norayr (I didn't want this to turn into an essay gonk ) …I have this belief that man has lost its meaning over these last couple decades. I believe that a man should be someone that is dependable, decisive and strong just to name a few traits out of many. I think that it's pretty obvious that a man also would come from the male sex unlike the popular feed that the media is now genderizing towards women, though I don't have anything against that gender. If anything at all, I favor them a whole bunch. In addition to that, I'd like to say I wouldn't be one to subjugate that sex either. But I feel gender roles between the sexes are becoming more blurry though that's not my point right now. The way I see things, a man has to have many of the following qualities (preferably all these traits, but we're not perfect): (I've cut my explanations short due to the length. I don't wanna bore you more than I already am.) • A man should be strong; this means he should be active, physically strong and able, and fun to look at (attractive from a girl's pov, and something to strive for from a boy's pov). This doesn't mean that he's going to disregard his mental strength. Nowadays guys are seen to be stupid, gullible, and indecisive. What a standard. On the contrary, a man should be calm, gathered, and reasonable.• A man must be able to be gentle; Does this sound a bit contradictory? Allow me to clear it up. The online dictionary (www.dictionary.com) defines gentle as kind, non-violent, polite, refined. Yes, you can be strong and gentle at the same time. This would mean that a man would respect a woman and treat her with kindness. A man would interact with another man not through violence or disregard to the person's being, but with consideration and brotherly love.I'm afraid that the length of this thing might be intimidating, so I'm going to list a couple others, and let you guys start out ~~ A man must be a good friend and lover. ~~ A man must have integrity. Of course I have many, many other traits, but please discuss this. I want to see what your ideas are. You're so simpleminded it's astounding. Why are you so stuck in socially assigned gender roles? Don't feel bad though. You're not alone. In just this thread, most of the people commenting are ignorant of the truth that gender is socially assigned, while sex is biological. They think that there is a correlation between the two, but there's really not. They can't deconstruct the world they've been told to believe in even in their own minds. It's frightening and pathetic, to completely frank. To put it more clearly, here's a quote from one of my favourite playwrights, Karen Finley. It's is from her play We Keep Our Vicitms Ready"‘Cause I’m a man—a man don’t have friends like a woman— We don’t tell our feelings. We don’t show our feelings. The only feelings we show are NO No feelings at all. Ain’t got a friend, but I got a drinking partner— Ain’t got a confident, but I got a hunting buddy— Ain’t got a shoulder to cry on but I got a shoulder to carry my gun. ‘Cause the only feelings I show are no feelings at all. The only feelings I show are no feelings at all."
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Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 6:17 pm
Cornetto1 Sorry if any of this doesn't really make much sense, it's late and I'm tired, but I'll try ._. I don't believe in gender roles, people should be who they want to be without any predetermined external influence such as gender restricting them. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, not all women look for the same things in men and vice versa. Physical labour, as a job, is becoming reduntant and a thing of a past, these kind of jobs are being replaced by machines at an increasingly rapid rate, thus nullifying any actual practical reason to be physically strong, other than to appeal to possible partners, which shouldn't really come into the equation at all or at least minimally. Everyone should be gentle, if everyone was the world would be a better place. Men don't have to follow a listed set of rules, that's becoming a thing of the past, and I'm glad that's happening. The diminishment of the steriotypical gender roles will help defeat negative things such as sexism. XD phyisical labor is not a thing of the past can a robot build a house i think not or take down scaffoding((the stuff you climb on the outside of the building))XD thats what i do and im for sure a robot cant do it of course we use nail guns but a robot cant carry wood or climb 3 stories high and bring down someplanks and pipes
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Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 6:20 pm
you cant define a man in few words not all men are strong physically
but a man should be strong mentally trustworthy loyal honorable respectable and i dont mean MAN as a bug muscle dude i mean everyone should be these things. a man doesnt have to be muscley
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Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 3:35 pm
What it means to be a man...
I like the tradition behind the idea of being a man. I like how it requires a man to be strong, and supportive, and protective.
But it's also very sexist, expecting the man to do these things.
There is a lot more to the human race then just societies given gender roles.
I think it's about time we just gave up on deigned gender roles. We need to enter the new century with new ideas, with more tolerance of everyones choices.
In all honesty, I'm protective of my love. I'm supportive of her. I want to be strong for her.
But, that's not because I'm the man in the relationship. It's because it's what I should do, as the one who loves her.
While I don't expect the treatment back, I think she feels the same way...that she wants to be everything that I expect her to be. And I want to return the favor.
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Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 2:15 pm
well, my two cents about ho men realy are, and what men should or shouldn't be like...
men should...
-be kind to people who are kind to them
-be bastards to people who are bastards to them
-have nothing to do all day except think about their girlfriend(s)
-eat a lot but still bear a heavy fitness
-be who they are and don't follow my rules about being a woman's dream.
men realy are
-horny
-hungry
-stronger than most women
-lazy
-thinking about sex atleast 20 times a day (100 times a day if your a teen)
-want to have sex but when they get it early are shy about it.
-working 20% more labor than women
-idiots around girls they like.
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Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 2:17 pm
also men should be chivalrus, but women killed that with their greed.
things men want
-money
-sex
-success
things women want
-men
-sex
-everything else
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Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 8:51 pm
I see what you mean with the whole "gentle and strong." A real man keeps himself physically fit, mentally fit, and morally fit. With the gentle, a real man keeps himself out of unneccessary violence and knows how to tell the difference between neccessary and unneccessary violence. However, nowadays, men are getting lazier (aren't we all?) and, while most men have good schooling, some don't. Some males have dropped out of school and some males have prejudice against women that is wrong and not really manly. I sometimes think that the morals of today have dropped far from what they once were.
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Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 12:17 pm
men exist across to broad a spectrum to be considered a single species
but he is defined by what he does with his life
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Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 12:22 pm
xKurosakix also men should be chivalrus, but women killed that with their greed. things men want -money -sex -success things women want -men -sex -everything else u forgot money women folliw it like a magnet
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Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 10:32 am
OMG.
3nodding I agree with Norayr 100%.
Here's what I think a guy should have.
• Physically stronger than women.
• Smart, be able to make good decisions
• Caring
• Polite
NOTE: OMG. There are so many guys lately that I see treating girls like crap. What ever happened to holding the door and helping a girl into her seat. Letting a girl go before you. OMG. ok. next.
• Kind
• Aware of his part as a man
• Have male parts (if you know what I mean)
• At least act like one.
NOTE: Ok sorry, but I don't think guys that act like girls is natural. Ew. next.
• Im sure there are a lot more. Feel free to let me know if you think of anything else.
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Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 12:08 am
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