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 Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 9:43 am
to me a man is defined asa person who is trustworthy kind caring and most importantly respects women for who they are cool
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Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 8:38 am
They don't have to be gentle, they don't have to be strong, they don't have to be handsome. To me, all tou have to do to be a man is except yourself and work hard. Saying a guy has to be 'appealing to the eye' to be a man is like saying a girl has to be size 2 to be a women.
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Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 3:18 am
I FEEL THAT HUMANS ARE THE WORST THING THAT CAN HAPPEN IN THIS WORLD DO TO THE FACT THAT WE CUASE SO MUCH DETRUCTION TO THE WORLD.WE BUILD UP SO MUCH ANIMOSITY LIKE WITH WARS AND DESTROYING NATURE FOR ARE OWN NEEDS BECUASE WE ARE SELFISH IN EVERY WAY.WE ALSO POLLUTE THIS WORLD AS IF IT WAS THE UNIVERSES BIGGEST DUMPSTER. stare
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Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 1:43 pm
BOUNT I FEEL THAT HUMANS ARE THE WORST THING THAT CAN HAPPEN IN THIS WORLD DO TO THE FACT THAT WE CUASE SO MUCH DETRUCTION TO THE WORLD.WE BUILD UP SO MUCH ANIMOSITY LIKE WITH WARS AND DESTROYING NATURE FOR ARE OWN NEEDS BECUASE WE ARE SELFISH IN EVERY WAY.WE ALSO POLLUTE THIS WORLD AS IF IT WAS THE UNIVERSES BIGGEST DUMPSTER. stare
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Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 7:25 pm
Lilhazz xKurosakix also men should be chivalrus, but women killed that with their greed. things men want -money -sex -success things women want -men -sex -everything else u forgot money women folliw it like a magnet Ok... what you both just said really hurt. Not all women are like that...
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Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 7:32 pm
I have a slight problem when it come to the whole guys being stronger thing. I am a 5'2 girl who is stronger than some pretty strong guys... and the fact that many believe men are always stronger tham women messes with me. For a long time, even now, I've had the attitude that I dont need protection from a guy cuz I'm strong enough to deal with it, but then there are some situations in which i wish I had a guy fighting for me. But that's never gonna happen cuz this is me we're talking about. To be honest, I really dont know what I want out of all this. I'm too confused with myself cuz of how I've been treated mentally. Can anyone give me a bit of advice?
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Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 9:09 am
Rin Kairiu I have a slight problem when it come to the whole guys being stronger thing. I am a 5'2 girl who is stronger than some pretty strong guys... and the fact that many believe men are always stronger tham women messes with me. For a long time, even now, I've had the attitude that I dont need protection from a guy cuz I'm strong enough to deal with it, but then there are some situations in which i wish I had a guy fighting for me. But that's never gonna happen cuz this is me we're talking about. To be honest, I really dont know what I want out of all this. I'm too confused with myself cuz of how I've been treated mentally. Can anyone give me a bit of advice? the idea of the man beeing the strong one in a bilateral society divided in male/female is a concept from the victorian age...ok right, in a way the separation always existed, but not the idea of the women beeing a frail thing that must be kept and protected...in ancient greece although they weren't considered capable for politics they were worshiped as priestesses and as a conection with the gods, in the middle ages the hole quetion of burning witches was due to the fear of the church for the knowledge some woomen posessed and so on.... in a way the global idea of women beeing the weaker sex is an image that was promoted by the catholic church so that it could disseminate it's power... there's nothing wrong with a strong woman... in fact, it something to be admired
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Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 1:12 pm
ohneyroi Rin Kairiu I have a slight problem when it come to the whole guys being stronger thing. I am a 5'2 girl who is stronger than some pretty strong guys... and the fact that many believe men are always stronger tham women messes with me. For a long time, even now, I've had the attitude that I dont need protection from a guy cuz I'm strong enough to deal with it, but then there are some situations in which i wish I had a guy fighting for me. But that's never gonna happen cuz this is me we're talking about. To be honest, I really dont know what I want out of all this. I'm too confused with myself cuz of how I've been treated mentally. Can anyone give me a bit of advice? the idea of the man beeing the strong one in a bilateral society divided in male/female is a concept from the victorian age...ok right, in a way the separation always existed, but not the idea of the women beeing a frail thing that must be kept and protected...in ancient greece although they weren't considered capable for politics they were worshiped as priestesses and as a conection with the gods, in the middle ages the hole quetion of burning witches was due to the fear of the church for the knowledge some woomen posessed and so on.... in a way the global idea of women beeing the weaker sex is an image that was promoted by the catholic church so that it could disseminate it's power... there's nothing wrong with a strong woman... in fact, it something to be admired I see. Thank you fou your input. I appreciate it. ^_^
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Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 3:52 am
Norayr Thanks for trying it. But being pysically strong goes beyond the business and sex appeal. There's something about being strong, and now I add, healthy that makes someone feel good. Exercise helps relieve a lot of stress and helps your mind organize things. Gives it a way to cope with what happened in the day. But then don't you think that sexism would die once people know what roles they have, and assume that, and live by that? Instead of having one universal role that both sexes follow, making it even more confusing to men what it means to be a man, and also the same for women, confusing them in what makes them a woman. I totally agree with you on that, as well as your initial comment. Both men (and women) need a code of conduct to follow,otherwise, we get confused and just wander around wondering what the purpose is in life. Todays culture is,like you said,too blurry and indecisive. What is "Being a good man" mean today? It means revving your truck engine, having sex appeal to attract women, swigging beer and basically being macho and irresponsible. Is that good conduct? Women have major issues too, like being obsessed w/i looks, being loud and obnoxious and lets face it,downright indecent sometimes to get a guys attention. Men should be.like you said, strong but gentle, and I'd like to add chivalrous (though I hate that word and the context I've sometimes heard it used), and women are supposed to be the submissive sex (not spineless puppy submissive, but know - who - has - the - final - say submissive, and a helper to their husband.
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Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 4:00 am
Rin Kairiu ohneyroi Rin Kairiu I have a slight problem when it come to the whole guys being stronger thing. I am a 5'2 girl who is stronger than some pretty strong guys... and the fact that many believe men are always stronger tham women messes with me. For a long time, even now, I've had the attitude that I dont need protection from a guy cuz I'm strong enough to deal with it, but then there are some situations in which i wish I had a guy fighting for me. But that's never gonna happen cuz this is me we're talking about. To be honest, I really dont know what I want out of all this. I'm too confused with myself cuz of how I've been treated mentally. Can anyone give me a bit of advice? the idea of the man beeing the strong one in a bilateral society divided in male/female is a concept from the victorian age...ok right, in a way the separation always existed, but not the idea of the women beeing a frail thing that must be kept and protected...in ancient greece although they weren't considered capable for politics they were worshiped as priestesses and as a conection with the gods, in the middle ages the hole quetion of burning witches was due to the fear of the church for the knowledge some woomen posessed and so on.... in a way the global idea of women beeing the weaker sex is an image that was promoted by the catholic church so that it could disseminate it's power... there's nothing wrong with a strong woman... in fact, it something to be admired I see. Thank you fou your input. I appreciate it. ^_^ When I said women should be submissive, I was talking more abotu realizing that the husband (not boyfriend) is the head of the family, not a dictator.I'm a 5'2" girl too,and fairly strong from working on a dairy farm and and riding horses for the last 6 years, and I think girls should be outspoken about their beliefs and not afraid to be a strong person (physically or mentally), I was more saying that, in a marraige, their should be some sort of hierarchy in which the husband asks his wifes opinion and listens to it seriously, but he has the final say in decisions.Theirs too much gender confusion nowadyas and I think its contributing to all the depressed/ troubled teens out there in the world.
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Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 5:05 pm
Elarii Rin Kairiu ohneyroi Rin Kairiu I have a slight problem when it come to the whole guys being stronger thing. I am a 5'2 girl who is stronger than some pretty strong guys... and the fact that many believe men are always stronger tham women messes with me. For a long time, even now, I've had the attitude that I dont need protection from a guy cuz I'm strong enough to deal with it, but then there are some situations in which i wish I had a guy fighting for me. But that's never gonna happen cuz this is me we're talking about. To be honest, I really dont know what I want out of all this. I'm too confused with myself cuz of how I've been treated mentally. Can anyone give me a bit of advice? the idea of the man beeing the strong one in a bilateral society divided in male/female is a concept from the victorian age...ok right, in a way the separation always existed, but not the idea of the women beeing a frail thing that must be kept and protected...in ancient greece although they weren't considered capable for politics they were worshiped as priestesses and as a conection with the gods, in the middle ages the hole quetion of burning witches was due to the fear of the church for the knowledge some woomen posessed and so on.... in a way the global idea of women beeing the weaker sex is an image that was promoted by the catholic church so that it could disseminate it's power... there's nothing wrong with a strong woman... in fact, it something to be admired I see. Thank you fou your input. I appreciate it. ^_^ When I said women should be submissive, I was talking more abotu realizing that the husband (not boyfriend) is the head of the family, not a dictator.I'm a 5'2" girl too,and fairly strong from working on a dairy farm and and riding horses for the last 6 years, and I think girls should be outspoken about their beliefs and not afraid to be a strong person (physically or mentally), I was more saying that, in a marraige, their should be some sort of hierarchy in which the husband asks his wifes opinion and listens to it seriously, but he has the final say in decisions.Theirs too much gender confusion nowadyas and I think its contributing to all the depressed/ troubled teens out there in the world. Yes, I agree. I think I would go ballistic if my husband never listened to me... and I'm ingnored enough as it is... opinionwise...
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Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 3:58 am
Rin Kairiu Elarii Rin Kairiu ohneyroi Rin Kairiu I have a slight problem when it come to the whole guys being stronger thing. I am a 5'2 girl who is stronger than some pretty strong guys... and the fact that many believe men are always stronger tham women messes with me. For a long time, even now, I've had the attitude that I dont need protection from a guy cuz I'm strong enough to deal with it, but then there are some situations in which i wish I had a guy fighting for me. But that's never gonna happen cuz this is me we're talking about. To be honest, I really dont know what I want out of all this. I'm too confused with myself cuz of how I've been treated mentally. Can anyone give me a bit of advice? the idea of the man beeing the strong one in a bilateral society divided in male/female is a concept from the victorian age...ok right, in a way the separation always existed, but not the idea of the women beeing a frail thing that must be kept and protected...in ancient greece although they weren't considered capable for politics they were worshiped as priestesses and as a conection with the gods, in the middle ages the hole quetion of burning witches was due to the fear of the church for the knowledge some woomen posessed and so on.... in a way the global idea of women beeing the weaker sex is an image that was promoted by the catholic church so that it could disseminate it's power... there's nothing wrong with a strong woman... in fact, it something to be admired I see. Thank you fou your input. I appreciate it. ^_^ When I said women should be submissive, I was talking more abotu realizing that the husband (not boyfriend) is the head of the family, not a dictator.I'm a 5'2" girl too,and fairly strong from working on a dairy farm and and riding horses for the last 6 years, and I think girls should be outspoken about their beliefs and not afraid to be a strong person (physically or mentally), I was more saying that, in a marraige, their should be some sort of hierarchy in which the husband asks his wifes opinion and listens to it seriously, but he has the final say in decisions.Theirs too much gender confusion nowadyas and I think its contributing to all the depressed/ troubled teens out there in the world. Yes, I agree. I think I would go ballistic if my husband never listened to me... and I'm ingnored enough as it is... opinionwise... a rellation between two individuals male/female in a relationship marital or not isn't supposed to have an hierarchy... it's a common understanding, the sharing of life's positive and negative aspects... it makes it more endurable split by two... that's how it should be, not with a dominant decisive half of the beeing that should be a couple... that's plain depriciative of the female gender... look on what you're saying... the husband should have the final saying????... i'm a guy and i'm shocked with that point of view...think about it... no one should ever speak for us, but with us.... there's a difference
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Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 5:10 am
Elarii When I said women should be submissive, I was talking more abotu realizing that the husband (not boyfriend) is the head of the family, not a dictator. Quote: uh, I don't care the man is supposed to be the head. He's not. Women and men work side to side in a marriage. “The first woman was created from the rib of a man. She was not made from his head to top him, nor from his feet to be trampled on by him, but out of his side to be equal to him.”This one is sooo true! biggrin “Sure God created man before woman, but then again you always make a rough draft before creating the final masterpiece.”
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Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 6:47 am
animegirl113 Elarii When I said women should be submissive, I was talking more abotu realizing that the husband (not boyfriend) is the head of the family, not a dictator. Quote: uh, I don't care the man is supposed to be the head. He's not. Women and men work side to side in a marriage. “The first woman was created from the rib of a man. She was not made from his head to top him, nor from his feet to be trampled on by him, but out of his side to be equal to him.”This one is sooo true! biggrin “Sure God created man before woman, but then again you always make a rough draft before creating the final masterpiece.” hooray for the masterpieces... glad for beeing the draft (the hole bible thing isn't much my thing... since i'm a avid defensor of the theory of evolution) (but isn't there something about some girl called lillith somewhere in that book.... lol )
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Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 7:46 pm
Does any one but me realize that this topic has gotten over 100 more hits in the past hour than some of the topics that have gotten in there life time? That's weird. This proves that 100 more people are more interested in what women want than what the problems in Iraq are or the fact that Bush is still sending troops over. It makes you think... mrgreen
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