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PostPosted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 10:55 am


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I will admit that you DO have a point there Yami. And yet other times because of Unions things get rather bad. The Unions in the post office make sure they get paid real well. Unfortunately it has also given over 100 hours more then there is work for. Meaning there are people who are getting paid to NOT work.

I think one of the things we need to do is lessen up upon the power of the unions. They were great back in the old days, but these days they can be a real pain. sweatdrop


I know if i was president, i would tell the farmers to grow more, not pay them not to grow. We're going be in a world of hurt in the future, when because we don't grow more stuff domestically, we have to spend $5 for a can of corn.
PostPosted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 2:01 pm


Well even if was to a farmer's benefit, we should have them grow crops to feed the homeless, to sell them for other purposes. Such as growing corn for bio-diseal, or like exporting food to other countries or something. ^_^;

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 9:03 pm


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Well even if was to a farmer's benefit, we should have them grow crops to feed the homeless, to sell them for other purposes. Such as growing corn for bio-diseal, or like exporting food to other countries or something. ^_^;


I actually support genetic engenering corn or other stuff for that. But have you seen how big pumpkins can get? why use corn when pumpkins can grow as big as a small house under the right conditions naturally.
PostPosted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 1:16 am


Potatoes under the right soil conditions can grow to be quite large as well. One of the big problems with genetic engineered food is the long term effects. Not to mention the loss of genetic variability. You never know when you might need a specific gene from a different crop, to fight off some new disease or infestation. There ARE risks when man begins to play God with his food. sweatdrop

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 9:14 am


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Potatoes under the right soil conditions can grow to be quite large as well. One of the big problems with genetic engineered food is the long term effects. Not to mention the loss of genetic variability. You never know when you might need a specific gene from a different crop, to fight off some new disease or infestation. There ARE risks when man begins to play God with his food. sweatdrop


You just have to do some planning. One of the major concerns is cross pollination, just make it where they don't pollinate in the traditional sense. With the right tinkering, scientist could make a plant that reaches over and does the dirty to its neighbor to breed. Plants already show the ability to grow towards a better light source, why not make one that grows towards the perfect source of pooty-tang. rofl

They might even be able to make a new pollinator to help not only the genetically engineered, but normal plants. Bees are dying from IAPV and other things like mites, beetles and wax moths. I only saw 10 butterflies this whole spring and summer, and birds and wind are more destructive in pollination, and only few birds do the pollination, and its likely only with certain flowers.

Imagine a colony of worms/caterpillars that pollinate and eat honey instead of destroy and eat plants. They could even make silk that can be used for clothes. If not breed to make and eat honey, they could be breed to eat mosquitoes which are also pollinators. Even though they prey on one pollinator, they stop the spread of West Nile Virus and other things. Imagine watching a nature show where one of the worms makes a sticky web in a flower, then goes up a line to hide. a Mosquito lands in the flower to either pollinate (male) or lay its eggs (female) and gets caught, then the worm pulls it up, bringing with the web a cloud of pollen to be scattered in the wind. If the plant or water source already has larva, the worm could make a net that will catch the maturing bugs as they come out of the water. There are about 3,500 species of mosquitoes found throughout the world. In some species of mosquito, the females feed on humans, and are therefore vectors for a number of infectious diseases affecting millions of people per year

The thing people forget about playing god, you have to play the devil as well to counter balance it. Play god for our benefit, play the devil for others misfortune.

We have the technology, we just need the balls and time to put it together.
PostPosted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 9:22 am



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 9:57 pm


You DO make some rather good points there. I think overall though we should be focusing on more natural and healthy alternatives. Like instead of trying to farm salmon which is bad for salmon, we should try to switch people over to catfish which do GREAT in farming. We CAN do it, after all it used to be that Lobster was looked at as peasant food, more like SPAM. So all we need to do is get other fish to become more awesome, that are able to be farmed well.

Like Salmon is a great example, it turns out that farmed salmon loose their ability to breed well, AND they can pass this new mutation on to WILD Salmon as well! gonk
PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 9:52 pm


Catfish is icky, its a sickening sweet flavor.

We need to just get smart again about breeding. Humanity has messed with the gene pool of other animals in the past, and its been hit and miss. Some of it has been very good, other not so good and the rest very evil. In some counties they have breed foxes for the fur industry that act almost like a domestic dog. They found timid and mild temper animals, then bred them. in 10 years the final product was foxes that jump and bark and greet you with licks on the face and hands....then are killed and skinned. sad In agriculture class we learned about a pig that was breed from a series of incestuous matings. One generation would be breed with a sibling, then the next wouldn't but the one after that would be breed with a sibling.

With cattle the Limousin breed is a good breeder, low birth weights (which helps stops Dystocia (difficult childbirth or labor)) and good muscle build while having a great motherly instincts. The Texas Long horn is also a good beef animal, resistant to disease, low birth weight They also have good survival instinct, which helps in tough weather where they can find food and shelter. Crossing these breeds would make for a nice animal, and if you can get 15-30 farmers/breeders in on it, breeding them to a larger population would be very easy. each farmer could cross breed, then raise the offspring, finally breed the off spring. For extra insurance, they could breed half with full blooded limousines, and the other with long horns. then breed those offspring until finally a strong hybrid population is reached. Imagine a Hearty breed that produces lots of lean meat, fairly easy to breed with (Hopefully) motherly/survival instincts that can put the human race to shame.

It just comes down to time, patience and know how. You can't just go breeding everything with everything. Even with genetic engineering there is still things you just can't magically do.

We just need to take our time, and breed the best traits into the best thing we can. Just like a monk we learned about in Bio class. He pretty much came up with the basic premises of genetics and breeding when he experimented with green and yellow peas. (EVOLUTION!!! LOL JK) The monk had all the time in the world, and was an experienced farmer. With the foxes, it took a decade, but they now have a strong population of friendly foxes that might be best used for pets and not coats.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 2:25 am


The monk was Gregor Mendel smile
And there have been both good and bad examples of human interference, but we need to learn more about our own impact on things before messing with other lifeforms like this. The silkworm caterpillar doesn't exist in the wild due to farming for example.
PostPosted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 3:25 am


Yeah some of the things we have done have been good, and other things not so good. Part of the problem is, humans have a tendency to leap before they look. The catfish were just one example of a fish that does well in farms. I think trout do pretty well in farms to. Salmon needs to be put on a protection list and be allowed to explode into a huge natural population, and we need to cut down on salmon farming. Mostly because it's EXTREMELY dangerous long term for ANY of those fish to get out, and spread the gene of low reproduction to the offspring of wild salmon!! gonk

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 9:13 am


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The monk was Gregor Mendel smile
And there have been both good and bad examples of human interference, but we need to learn more about our own impact on things before messing with other lifeforms like this. The silkworm caterpillar doesn't exist in the wild due to farming for example.


silk worms exist in the wild, its just the domestic ones depend on humans much like sheep and cattle now do. Plus there are many worms that make silk, like the tent caterpillar.

@ Ayanami: well it just comes down to being smart. After all, look how hot and sexy people are nowadays compared to Washington's day. Heck people are even better looking since the 70's. Because of selective breeding we're becoming a lot better looking, smarter and healthier. A Cold no longer can kill us as easy as it did back in Washington's day (many believe he was bleed to death, and not killed by the cold he had. They use to bleed you to cure you.)
PostPosted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 10:29 am


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Elzingaiv
The monk was Gregor Mendel smile
And there have been both good and bad examples of human interference, but we need to learn more about our own impact on things before messing with other lifeforms like this. The silkworm caterpillar doesn't exist in the wild due to farming for example.


silk worms exist in the wild, its just the domestic ones depend on humans much like sheep and cattle now do. Plus there are many worms that make silk, like the tent caterpillar.

@ Ayanami: well it just comes down to being smart. After all, look how hot and sexy people are nowadays compared to Washington's day. Heck people are even better looking since the 70's. plus p***s size in porno has increased 150% since then lol. Because of selective breeding we're becoming a lot better looking, smarter and healthier. A Cold no longer can kill us as easy as it did back in Washington's day (many believe he was bleed to death, and not killed by the cold he had. They use to bleed you to cure you.)



alright cool it its a pg13 site yami geesh dont be so quick to post stuff that could get the guild closed if reported D:

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 2:04 pm


It's time for a new topic! That new topic is:

Why the color purple is awesome!

The color purple is awesome, because it was the color of royalty and the wealthy. It still remains quite the beautiful color.
PostPosted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 8:03 pm


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It's time for a new topic! That new topic is:

Why the color purple is awesome!

The color purple is awesome, because it was the color of royalty and the wealthy. It still remains quite the beautiful color.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 3:52 pm



-Has not been here for the winter xD-

Because purple is the opposite of not purple.
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