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PostPosted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 11:54 pm


I struggled with the performance/education question for a long time. Because I'm primarily a vocalist, there is quite a lot of competition out there (as opposed to be say, an oboist). So I'm getting into conducting. Not only do you get to be involved in performing, you get to teach at the same time!
I am also not interested in teaching grade or high school, so I'm aiming for a masters or phD in music, so that I can teach at the college or university level.
Most of the music performance majors I know are not making their living performing.
The ed majors I know ARE making a living as teachers.

But in the end, do what you love!
PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 4:10 pm


I'm pretty sure I won't be pursuing a profession in Music. But if I were to, I'd definitely go into teaching. There's no way I could be a performer. It's just too ridiculous for me. I can't play things without botching SOME note up.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 5:24 pm


`Kel`
I just cant decide. I've had numerous people tell me its safe to go into Education. But my heart is in performance. I just cant see myself as a band director or something, I just couldnt do it. I want to play not teach. I dont want to do performace though if im going to be out of luck and cant find a job. O_o

Yet at the same time im considering getting my PHD in oboe and trying to become an oboe professor at a college.

ugghhh What to do, what to do. stressed

Anyone else unsure, or were unsure? What are you guy's thoughts?


I didn't read everyone's responses (because I wanted to address your issue directly rather than get sidetracked), but I'm sure you already know music ed students teach in public school's only. I'm sure you are also aware that just because you have a bachelor's in music performance (which is what i'm getting right now) does NOT mean you MUST perform (though it gives you more credibility should you want to).

Many music performance students go on to medicine law, and even MBA degrees. I really wish people, including music majors, would stop confining us (and ourselves) in this box that say because I majored in this I must now do this for the rest of my life because I have no other transferable skills. And BTW, being able to work in a group, pay attention to detail, be self-motivated/self-guided, give direction, and know when to follow as well as inter-personal communication are ALL transferable skills that music majors gain.

Even within the wonderful world of music there is a wide array of work, not just being on stage. Should you pursue music as a career (which is what I intend to do) know that your career won't look like everyone else's. Whereas most people will have vertical career (working up that corporate ladder) yours will be (or at least should be) horizontal should you want any success.

As a violinist I know that I will literally be competing with everyone and their mother o simply "performing" is shooting myself in the foot and setting myself up for failure. I want to (eventually) form a quartet (my strength is in small ensemble--i know i'm not cut out for nor do i desire a solo career); i also want to teach privately for a legitimate organization (maybe even my childhood music school); set up a scholarship for innovative young string players (who think outside the classical box); and eventually become an entertainment lawyer (the working world for musicians can be so shabby, I don't want to see any of you guys taken advantage of); I also dream of playing on broadway (which is why i study in nyc). Don't confine yourself to a "typical" label of performer especially when you're seeking a degree that encourages creativity. Be creative w/ your career and life.

Best of luck, friend. =)
PostPosted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 7:21 pm


You can do both or if it is too much go for education for your bachelors and then do performance for you masters degree.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 7:13 pm


OK! this is coming from a music education major's perspective. go for the music education degree. you can perform ANYTIME YOU TO WITHOUT THE PERFORMANCE DEGREE a performance degree in my opinion is pointless. but what you can do, is earn a music ed degree and go for a performing certificate...... but please do not do the music performance degree
PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 7:43 am


i think it all comes down to how you work/perform burning_eyes

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 4:46 pm


I've pretty much decided im going to do an education degree, and then do the extra work to get the performance degree as well. (I didnt know you could do both until recently) Thanks for all the comments about it. Im really glad we really can get both though. 3nodding
PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 11:41 pm


It's only easier to go into Education if your heart is in it. If you want to go with performance then that is your answer. I myself have too many tendonitis problems to continue to practice the long hours necessary so my decision was easy. Even so, I think I would have chosen education anyway, because that is what I have always wanted to do.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 10:01 pm


Where I'm at, University of Wisconsin-Stevens Point, I can major in both music performance and education
PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 4:47 am


Zidane of the Wildfire
OK! this is coming from a music education major's perspective. go for the music education degree. you can perform ANYTIME YOU TO WITHOUT THE PERFORMANCE DEGREE a performance degree in my opinion is pointless. but what you can do, is earn a music ed degree and go for a performing certificate...... but please do not do the music performance degree



You can still teach with a music performance degree, just not at a public primary or secondary institution. I studied music at a private music school. The vast majority of teachers had only performance degrees o were performers (read: orchestral musicians) turned instructor. Also, if you want to teach at a university, the only requirement is to have your doctorates in music. Of course specialties like music technology or composition or music law, especially for your master's and doctorate's focus, will determine where in a universities music department you will be, but you're but whether you have a music ed degree or not doesn't matter.
Heck, you can have your bachelor's degree in physics and end up teaching music at a college, and isn't this what the original poster wants to do--be a professor. Music Ed degrees are only for those who intend to teach at a pulic school, otherwise don't do it.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 4:50 am


NYU doesn't allow a double major in performance and MusEd because the requirements for both overlap too much. Kel, I'm happy you've finally decided. I wih you the best of luck. And Good Luck to all my other music cronies on the boar whee May we all inspire the world with our musical talents.
PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 5:01 pm


I'm pretty unsure. All the fields I want to apply in are too competitive for my taste (Alto singer, violinist). I'm considering pusuing a minor at this point. Maybe a Bachelor's or Associate's.

At the moment, I want to go into music therapy (a very heavenly combination of physiology and music), but it's kinda hard finding a school within my budget that offers that kind of education.

ber-the-conqueror


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 8:09 am


NYU offers a degree for music therapy, but, again, it's not the most fiscally feasible choice if you're on a budget. Although I do hear that music therapists will be in high demand as the baby boomers retire. So, you'll never be out of work there. And yes, violin is a competitive instrument to get in anywhere on. I only got accepted to half the schools to which I applied for violin, but I think some of it had to do with my GPA as well so...

There's always the option of applying undecided and then switching into whatever program you want. neutral
PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 7:50 pm


I'm personally a performance major. While I could switch to our BME, it would keep me in undergrad for another semester or two and eh, not up for that. And it's actually not entirely true that you can't teach in a public school without an education degree - a lot of schools will take a performance (with teacher's certification, of course), but it's true that they would rather that the music ed major over the music performance.

But really, go with what will make you happy. If you'd rather perform and you aren't too fond of the idea of teaching for the rest of your life, go with performance. If you like performing but you'd also enjoy inspiring kids to be interested in music, then go education.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 2:45 pm


Well, you want to perform, so perform!

For me, I've definitely decided that Music Education is the way to go and that I want to be a band director. Before this last fall semester, I thought a bit differently. I thought that Performance was what I truly wanted to do, but I had to go with Education because I didn't have the ability to be a performance major...

But last semester I finally came to terms and realized that my lack of skill, is not because I fail and lack the ability, I looked back and realized that in middle school and high school I never did practice much, and I never did learn to perform for myself or anything, and that is the root of all of my problems.

This worked together to once and for all take me away from even wanting to be a Performance major and to tell me that I NEED to do Education. I realized what happened to me, why I was able to "fall between the cracks", not practice much and not meet my full potential. I want to help make sure this doesn't happen to others that might fall into the same situation! I know it can't be that rare.

Also I really want to be a band director specifically. I'd love to direct a marching band as well and do marching shows as well.
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