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Magus Initi

PostPosted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 10:48 am
erinnightwalker
Magus Young


Sorry I didn't respond for so long, my family grabbed me and pulled me off for a weekend getaway, lol.

Thank you for your answers, I will definitely look into Servitors. However, I do have one more question, before I go out and buy a book.

Exactly what are they? I know it is a constructed entity, but exactly how is a ball of energy molded and given a pseudo-life by us? I told my boyfriend a little about servitors, and he doesn't like the idea at all. He said, "you have no right to create spirits, that is the realm of God. You don't have the authority to do that." And I kinda think that he's right. I mean, who am I to make conscious beings, even if they're only a little conscious?

really, i think thats a point of view thing. if you want to get the blessings of your chosen god when you make them, then in that way a god did have a hand in their making. if you take the point of view that they are really just little shards of yourself, temporarily isolated and split away so you can concentrate on more that just that one task, then thats what they are. if you think that they are just little automata, carrying out your orders then dissolving with nothing more than the semblance of life then thats what they are too. belief is truly the only factor.
they way that i look at making truly conscious servitors is the same way i look at having children. in both cases its a long term investment of time and energy. in both cases, though i may raise them and love them and shape them as much as a can, they will leave and grow beyond my full control. thats why i'm so careful about making a servitor like that, because its not so much a servitor anymore as a spirit with its own mind and method. some people may make fully conscious servitors like they make children- without full awareness of the responsibility involved in creating a conscious being. i view them in the same way- as anything from foolish to dangerous.

life will always create life, whether or not the creation is clothed in flesh.

i recommend going to the library before buying a book. also, i can post some links to chaos magic articles about servitors as soon as i get back to my laptop (i'm currently across the country right now XD)


That makes a lot of sense. Thank you for putting up with all of my questions! I would really appreciate those articles. Are you on vacation right now? ^_^  
PostPosted: Fri Jul 31, 2009 7:23 am
Magus Young


That makes a lot of sense. Thank you for putting up with all of my questions! I would really appreciate those articles. Are you on vacation right now? ^_^

kinda. driving back across the us with my boyfriend and all of his stuff XD  

erinnightwalker


Magus Initi

PostPosted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 8:20 pm
erinnightwalker
Magus Young


That makes a lot of sense. Thank you for putting up with all of my questions! I would really appreciate those articles. Are you on vacation right now? ^_^

kinda. driving back across the us with my boyfriend and all of his stuff XD


Ah, road trip! I'm actually moving to a new place myself.  
PostPosted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 10:49 pm
ok, i'm home and i've been looking for those links i promised, so here we go-

chaos magic in general (kinda random but interesting nonetheless)
http://www.chaosmatrix.org/library/chaos/texts/

specific info on the aforementioned fotamecus
http://www.chaosmatrix.org/library/chaos/texts/fotamec1.html
http://www.chaosmatrix.org/library/chaos/texts/fotamec2.html

because it makes me laugh
http://www.chaosmatrix.org/library/chaos/texts/cthuwica.html

i'm sure there's more but its late and my couch is calling my name XD  

erinnightwalker


Magus Initi

PostPosted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 1:50 am
erinnightwalker
ok, i'm home and i've been looking for those links i promised, so here we go-

chaos magic in general (kinda random but interesting nonetheless)
http://www.chaosmatrix.org/library/chaos/texts/

specific info on the aforementioned fotamecus
http://www.chaosmatrix.org/library/chaos/texts/fotamec1.html
http://www.chaosmatrix.org/library/chaos/texts/fotamec2.html

because it makes me laugh
http://www.chaosmatrix.org/library/chaos/texts/cthuwica.html

i'm sure there's more but its late and my couch is calling my name XD


Oh, thank you so much!  
PostPosted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 9:43 pm
Magus Young
erinnightwalker
ok, i'm home and i've been looking for those links i promised, so here we go-

chaos magic in general (kinda random but interesting nonetheless)
http://www.chaosmatrix.org/library/chaos/texts/

specific info on the aforementioned fotamecus
http://www.chaosmatrix.org/library/chaos/texts/fotamec1.html
http://www.chaosmatrix.org/library/chaos/texts/fotamec2.html

because it makes me laugh
http://www.chaosmatrix.org/library/chaos/texts/cthuwica.html

i'm sure there's more but its late and my couch is calling my name XD


Oh, thank you so much!

no problem wink  

erinnightwalker


erinnightwalker

PostPosted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 6:13 pm
working on an expanded molly post, please see previous ones for some intro info smile  
PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 9:14 pm
I just popped in on this and really enjoyed reading all of the questions and answers. they are really helpful. my worry would be what if sometimes in magic you accidentally do things you don't mean to? like i've sometimes sent more energy into objects and people than i meant to. would that make servitors dangerous? if so what is a good way to garantee control?  

Elfshaman


erinnightwalker

PostPosted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 8:46 pm
Elfshaman
I just popped in on this and really enjoyed reading all of the questions and answers. they are really helpful. my worry would be what if sometimes in magic you accidentally do things you don't mean to? like i've sometimes sent more energy into objects and people than i meant to. would that make servitors dangerous? if so what is a good way to garantee control?


best way would be to regulate your energy flow before trying this kind of thing, but if not, make sure you have a physical focus that is highly intertwined with the servitor so it acts as the hypothetical "oh s**t" button. then you could either bind it with the focus or destroy it with the focus. barring that, treat it as a dangerous spirit and exorcise it.  
PostPosted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 8:21 am
erinnightwalker
Elfshaman
I just popped in on this and really enjoyed reading all of the questions and answers. they are really helpful. my worry would be what if sometimes in magic you accidentally do things you don't mean to? like i've sometimes sent more energy into objects and people than i meant to. would that make servitors dangerous? if so what is a good way to garantee control?


best way would be to regulate your energy flow before trying this kind of thing, but if not, make sure you have a physical focus that is highly intertwined with the servitor so it acts as the hypothetical "oh s**t" button. then you could either bind it with the focus or destroy it with the focus. barring that, treat it as a dangerous spirit and exorcise it.

ok thanks alot  

Elfshaman


erinnightwalker

PostPosted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 12:34 pm
ok, officially redirecting interested parties here  
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