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 Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 6:00 pm
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xehanort777 Ritorin xehanort777 Ritorin xehanort777 Ritorin They all end up feeling the same. Yep, really awesome...  Oh hi. Lets Pokebattle
So you're saying that, for the first six games, the plot was good, the gameplay was good, and the setting was good?
If you answer yes, you're just as much as biased as you guys see me to be.
Especially if you can't point out the obvious faults.
EDIT: In fact, I can alreeady name the many faults of the KH series...
I don't remember posting any of that... but since you asked, I particularly think the plot, gameplay, & settings of FF VII, VIII, & X are good. XIII looks promising; visually & musically appealing anyhow. Oh hi. Lets Pokebattle 
Well, it was implied... but even still I got an answer.
Anyway, I can only truly judge FF7 out of the 4 you mentioned.
Only good thing about the game was the plot. Even then, it's starting to get dull... (on the second disk, in the snow area, currently exploiting the elixir glitch. Other than that, I've lost all motivation to play).
And the Materia system practically means that everyone is the same, and that there's no reason to use anyone beyond Tifa and Barret. [Unless you want to hear different lines]
Even their limit break attacks are all almost the same in the fact that they all do obscene amounts of damage with the occasional side effect.
The only exception to this rule would be Aerith, but it's too bad she dies on the first disk.
Also, being able to use only 3 characters was annoying. What was even more annoying was when some characters were forced on to your team.
Sure, they level up by themselves, and are at an adequate level, but then again, do you have the proper equipment for them?
I see what you mean however, its obvious that most players are easier to please. Personally, I think the story and music are the most important elements. As long as I can get through the game's story without getting stuck on a boss I do not care otherwise. If they would have have been films instead of games, I would have been fine with that. Are you re-playing FF7? Oh hi. Lets Pokebattle
No, this would be the first time playing it.
So I've accumulated up to around 22 hours of gameplay, and only once so far did I ever grind. (and that was only to get enough money to buy the permanent pass to Gold Saucer)
But yeah.
This game feels pretty generic.
Even the graphics are horrible. (EVEN FOR IT'S TIME)
I already know that graphics don't mean everything, but considering it's hard to tell how the characters are feeling, and a couple of other stuff, almost every scene leaves me confused.
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Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 6:16 pm
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Ritorin Skarmy Ritorin Oh hi. Lets Pokebattle
HAHAHAHAAH--- Get the ******** out.
Protip: Just because I have a pokemon sprite based off of one of my avatars, doesn't mean I value pokemon above all else. Try again, but without the fail.
Also, there are way better games than Fail Fantasy.
EDIT: Hey wait, you were that one guy who never replied to me about that Mario rant. Go figure. This pretty much means I've already won the argument, seeing as how you won't come back.
@skarmy: I heard FF13 got really bad reviews. Mixed reviews, at best...
Mainly because it's linear, I believe.
You think in this day and age Square would learn to make their games unlinear. D;
Square Enix makes a shitload of games and not all of them are linear.
I don't know where you heard it got mixed reviews considering it isn't even out yet. Game informer managed to rate the Japanese copy a 9.25
The main problem was the character depth in the secondary charactersEven if they're not all linear, it's too bad most are. And I'm getting sick of it. Let's not even get into how bad the replay value is... I mean, they don't even try to switch up the feel of it. They all end up feeling the same. To be honest, FF7 feels like all the other FF's that come before it. (well, save for the plot. It seems they actually tried with the plot that time) Quote: I don't know where you heard it got mixed reviews considering it isn't even out yet. Quote: Game informer managed to rate the Japanese copy a 9.25 Answered your own question. Anyway, point is, I'm afraid to play anything past FF7, considering my disappointment on the series. And to make matters worse, it seems the games have been getting bad ever since they annexed with Enix. EDIT: Now that I've realized it, I liked more games produced by Square made back then, than I do like the games produced today by Square-Enix...
Pay attention. They rated a Japanese version that hasn't been dubbed to fit us yet. The reason they down graded it was because they said the story made no sense in places and the secondary characters didn't have enough back stories. I figure most of the stories got lost in translation since the game and the elements were related to Japanese gamers instead of us western gamers; so most of their stuff would be lost to us.
So no, you can not fairly rate a game that has not been translated correctly into English now and expect the story to make 100% sense to you.
In conclusion, Game Informer did a s**t review and I did not answer my own question because it is not released yet. Japan release is not the same as American release, especially since the story got ridiculous good scores in Japan.
Japanese copies=/=English copies. Got it memorized? |
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Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 6:16 pm
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Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 6:23 pm
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Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 6:26 pm
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Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 6:38 pm
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Skarmy Also the graphics did not suck for their time. They were phenomenal.
Cut scene of Final Fantasy XII> http://pspmedia.ign.com/psp/image/article/874/874474/crisis-core-final-fantasy-vii-screens-20080515032414403_640w.jpg
Gameplay of Final Fantasy XII> http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/screenshots/1/130791/finalf7_790screen001.jpg
Resident Evil cutscene> http://www.gamershell.com/static/screenshots/7894/169736_full.jpg
Resident Evil Gameplay> http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/screenshots/2/196762/bh2vp_screen001.jpg
Also keep in mind Resident Evil 2 came out A YEAR AFTER FFXII Oh hi. Lets Pokebattle
I'm confused.
I only mentioned FF7, but you're talking about FF12, but then you link to images of FF7, one of which I highly doubt was in the game. (you know which one I'm talking about)
Anywho, the 3D graphics of FF7 is the stuff I'm only having trouble with. (anything done in 2D is done nicely as usual. Sadly, the only stuff that matter so far are presented in 3D graphics)
That stuff seems like something I could make in 3D maker thing that every school's computer lab has.
I can name graphically better(better overall, I might add) looking games that were in the same era as FF7.
As for your previous post: Yes. Yes I can.
That's like saying I can't rate Mother 3 a good game or a bad game because it's originally in Japanese, and will never officially get released in English.
Hell, this means that half my library of emulated SNES games are stuck in purgatory when it comes to ratings, only because they're japanese.
Besides, the gameplay will be relatively the same, yeah? So even if what I just said above is bullshit and is rendered a moot point for whateve reason, I could still rate the game based on it's gameplay. (what matters the most, I might add...)
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Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 6:51 pm
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Ritorin Skarmy Also the graphics did not suck for their time. They were phenomenal.
Cut scene of Final Fantasy vII> http://pspmedia.ign.com/psp/image/article/874/874474/crisis-core-final-fantasy-vii-screens-20080515032414403_640w.jpg
Gameplay of Final Fantasy vII> http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/screenshots/1/130791/finalf7_790screen001.jpg
Resident Evil cutscene> http://www.gamershell.com/static/screenshots/7894/169736_full.jpg
Resident Evil Gameplay> http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/screenshots/2/196762/bh2vp_screen001.jpg
Also keep in mind Resident Evil 2 came out A YEAR AFTER FFXII Oh hi. Lets Pokebattle
I'm confused.
I only mentioned FF7, but you're talking about FF12, but then you link to images of FF7, one of which I highly doubt was in the game. (you know which one I'm talking about)
Anywho, the 3D graphics of FF7 is the stuff I'm only having trouble with. (anything done in 2D is done nicely as usual. Sadly, the only stuff that matter so far are presented in 3D graphics)
That stuff seems like something I could make in 3D maker thing that every school's computer lab has.
I can name graphically better(better overall, I might add) looking games that were in the same era as FF7.
As for your previous post: Yes. Yes I can.
That's like saying I can't rate Mother 3 a good game or a bad game because it's originally in Japanese, and will never officially get released in English.
Hell, this means that half my library of emulated SNES games are stuck in purgatory when it comes to ratings, only because they're japanese.
Besides, the gameplay will be relatively the same, yeah? So even if what I just said above is bullshit and is rendered a moot point for whateve reason, I could still rate the game based on it's gameplay. (what matters the most, I might add...)
Woops got my roman numerals mixed up. Also if game informer were to rate mother earth it would get a s**t score due to it not being dubbed. I assure you. They've done the same thing with other games in the same situation before.
And that aside, gameplay got rated a perfect ten. Did you miss where I said they downrated it because it got lost in translation?
I'd still like to know all these different reviews you seem to have read about Final Fantasy XIII when the only one that reviewed it officially was Game Informer and it still rated it a good game, a 9.25, and said it had the best battle systems of all the other games. I'd also like to know why you think a game being linear means it gets a bad score. Uncharted 2 was linear and it won game of the year and scored a perfect 10 in over 35 ratings. |
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Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 7:20 pm
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Skarmy Ritorin Skarmy Also the graphics did not suck for their time. They were phenomenal.
Cut scene of Final Fantasy vII> http://pspmedia.ign.com/psp/image/article/874/874474/crisis-core-final-fantasy-vii-screens-20080515032414403_640w.jpg
Gameplay of Final Fantasy vII> http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/screenshots/1/130791/finalf7_790screen001.jpg
Resident Evil cutscene> http://www.gamershell.com/static/screenshots/7894/169736_full.jpg
Resident Evil Gameplay> http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/screenshots/2/196762/bh2vp_screen001.jpg
Also keep in mind Resident Evil 2 came out A YEAR AFTER FFXII Oh hi. Lets Pokebattle
I'm confused.
I only mentioned FF7, but you're talking about FF12, but then you link to images of FF7, one of which I highly doubt was in the game. (you know which one I'm talking about)
Anywho, the 3D graphics of FF7 is the stuff I'm only having trouble with. (anything done in 2D is done nicely as usual. Sadly, the only stuff that matter so far are presented in 3D graphics)
That stuff seems like something I could make in 3D maker thing that every school's computer lab has.
I can name graphically better(better overall, I might add) looking games that were in the same era as FF7.
As for your previous post: Yes. Yes I can.
That's like saying I can't rate Mother 3 a good game or a bad game because it's originally in Japanese, and will never officially get released in English.
Hell, this means that half my library of emulated SNES games are stuck in purgatory when it comes to ratings, only because they're japanese.
Besides, the gameplay will be relatively the same, yeah? So even if what I just said above is bullshit and is rendered a moot point for whateve reason, I could still rate the game based on it's gameplay. (what matters the most, I might add...)
And that aside, gameplay got rated a perfect ten. Did you miss where I said they downrated it because it got lost in translation?
I'd still like to know all these different reviews you seem to have read about Final Fantasy XIII when the only one that reviewed it officially was Game Informer and it still rated it a good game, a 9.25, and said it had the best battle systems of all the other games. I'd also like to know why you think a game being linear means it gets a bad score. Uncharted 2 was linear and it won game of the year and scored a perfect 10 in over 35 ratings.Oh hi. Lets Pokebattle
Except that linearity in games that aren't rpg's are able to conceal themselves easily.
But linearity in rpgs are bad because, for one, it loses a sense of being fun to play.
Especially if the game suffers from a bad plot, same type of gameplay used in the past 20 years, and lack of things to do.
As for the reviews, it was a couple of user made reviews. I tend to trust those more, because, well, a bunch of reviews are more precise than just one review.
Also, I just saw some gameplay. It looks sleek, I'll admit that, but it seems to play like FF7's type of gameplay... which really isn't saying much.
Already it seems like I've seen it before in the many FF installments before it.
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Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 7:27 pm
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Ritorin Skarmy Ritorin Skarmy Also the graphics did not suck for their time. They were phenomenal.
Cut scene of Final Fantasy vII> http://pspmedia.ign.com/psp/image/article/874/874474/crisis-core-final-fantasy-vii-screens-20080515032414403_640w.jpg
Gameplay of Final Fantasy vII> http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/screenshots/1/130791/finalf7_790screen001.jpg
Resident Evil cutscene> http://www.gamershell.com/static/screenshots/7894/169736_full.jpg
Resident Evil Gameplay> http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/screenshots/2/196762/bh2vp_screen001.jpg
Also keep in mind Resident Evil 2 came out A YEAR AFTER FFXII Oh hi. Lets Pokebattle
I'm confused.
I only mentioned FF7, but you're talking about FF12, but then you link to images of FF7, one of which I highly doubt was in the game. (you know which one I'm talking about)
Anywho, the 3D graphics of FF7 is the stuff I'm only having trouble with. (anything done in 2D is done nicely as usual. Sadly, the only stuff that matter so far are presented in 3D graphics)
That stuff seems like something I could make in 3D maker thing that every school's computer lab has.
I can name graphically better(better overall, I might add) looking games that were in the same era as FF7.
As for your previous post: Yes. Yes I can.
That's like saying I can't rate Mother 3 a good game or a bad game because it's originally in Japanese, and will never officially get released in English.
Hell, this means that half my library of emulated SNES games are stuck in purgatory when it comes to ratings, only because they're japanese.
Besides, the gameplay will be relatively the same, yeah? So even if what I just said above is bullshit and is rendered a moot point for whateve reason, I could still rate the game based on it's gameplay. (what matters the most, I might add...)
And that aside, gameplay got rated a perfect ten. Did you miss where I said they downrated it because it got lost in translation?
I'd still like to know all these different reviews you seem to have read about Final Fantasy XIII when the only one that reviewed it officially was Game Informer and it still rated it a good game, a 9.25, and said it had the best battle systems of all the other games. I'd also like to know why you think a game being linear means it gets a bad score. Uncharted 2 was linear and it won game of the year and scored a perfect 10 in over 35 ratings.Oh hi. Lets Pokebattle
Except that linearity in games that aren't rpg's are able to conceal themselves easily.
But linearity in rpgs are bad because, for one, it loses a sense of being fun to play.
Especially if the game suffers from a bad plot, same type of gameplay used in the past 20 years, and lack of things to do.
As for the reviews, it was a couple of user made reviews. I tend to trust those more, because, well, a bunch of reviews are more precise than just one review.
Also, I just saw some gameplay. It looks sleek, I'll admit that, but it seems to play like FF7's type of gameplay... which really isn't saying much.
Already it seems like I've seen it before in the many FF installments before it.
Bioshock was linear. Fantastic game, amazing story, good scores, just the all around game was incredible. It was an RPG.
RPG's are capable of being linear because they make up for it in their long gameplay. How long have you been playing FFvii? 22 hours? And you're complaining? Clearly you don't understand how to hate a game, because if you did hate final fantasy you wouldn't stick around for 22 hours of game.
Final Fantasy delivered more than what was expected of it's time. Long gameplay, really good story, nice graphics. Comparing that final fantasy which is considered the best final fantasy is like comparing ocarina of time, which is considered the greatest zelda game, to twilight princess. I hated ocarina of time and loved twilight princess, doesn't mean ocarina wasn't a good game in its time. |
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Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 7:37 pm
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Skarmy Ritorin Skarmy Ritorin Skarmy Also the graphics did not suck for their time. They were phenomenal.
Cut scene of Final Fantasy vII> http://pspmedia.ign.com/psp/image/article/874/874474/crisis-core-final-fantasy-vii-screens-20080515032414403_640w.jpg
Gameplay of Final Fantasy vII> http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/screenshots/1/130791/finalf7_790screen001.jpg
Resident Evil cutscene> http://www.gamershell.com/static/screenshots/7894/169736_full.jpg
Resident Evil Gameplay> http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/screenshots/2/196762/bh2vp_screen001.jpg
Also keep in mind Resident Evil 2 came out A YEAR AFTER FFXII Oh hi. Lets Pokebattle
I'm confused.
I only mentioned FF7, but you're talking about FF12, but then you link to images of FF7, one of which I highly doubt was in the game. (you know which one I'm talking about)
Anywho, the 3D graphics of FF7 is the stuff I'm only having trouble with. (anything done in 2D is done nicely as usual. Sadly, the only stuff that matter so far are presented in 3D graphics)
That stuff seems like something I could make in 3D maker thing that every school's computer lab has.
I can name graphically better(better overall, I might add) looking games that were in the same era as FF7.
As for your previous post: Yes. Yes I can.
That's like saying I can't rate Mother 3 a good game or a bad game because it's originally in Japanese, and will never officially get released in English.
Hell, this means that half my library of emulated SNES games are stuck in purgatory when it comes to ratings, only because they're japanese.
Besides, the gameplay will be relatively the same, yeah? So even if what I just said above is bullshit and is rendered a moot point for whateve reason, I could still rate the game based on it's gameplay. (what matters the most, I might add...)
And that aside, gameplay got rated a perfect ten. Did you miss where I said they downrated it because it got lost in translation?
I'd still like to know all these different reviews you seem to have read about Final Fantasy XIII when the only one that reviewed it officially was Game Informer and it still rated it a good game, a 9.25, and said it had the best battle systems of all the other games. I'd also like to know why you think a game being linear means it gets a bad score. Uncharted 2 was linear and it won game of the year and scored a perfect 10 in over 35 ratings.Oh hi. Lets Pokebattle
Except that linearity in games that aren't rpg's are able to conceal themselves easily.
But linearity in rpgs are bad because, for one, it loses a sense of being fun to play.
Especially if the game suffers from a bad plot, same type of gameplay used in the past 20 years, and lack of things to do.
As for the reviews, it was a couple of user made reviews. I tend to trust those more, because, well, a bunch of reviews are more precise than just one review.
Also, I just saw some gameplay. It looks sleek, I'll admit that, but it seems to play like FF7's type of gameplay... which really isn't saying much.
Already it seems like I've seen it before in the many FF installments before it.
Bioshock was linear. Fantastic game, amazing story, good scores, just the all around game was incredible. It was an RPG.
RPG's are capable of being linear because they make up for it in their long gameplay. How long have you been playing FFvii? 22 hours? And you're complaining? Clearly you don't understand how to hate a game, because if you did hate final fantasy you wouldn't stick around for 22 hours of game.
Final Fantasy delivered more than what was expected of it's time. Long gameplay, really good story, nice graphics. Comparing that final fantasy which is considered the best final fantasy is like comparing ocarina of time, which is considered the greatest zelda game, to twilight princess. I hated ocarina of time and loved twilight princess, doesn't mean ocarina wasn't a good game in its time.
Already it's become very tedious.
Just because the game is long, doesn't mean it's good.
I could give you so many examples, I'm not sure where to begin.
EDIT: As for what you said about Bioshock, I'm sure the good plot you just mentioned saved it from its supposed linearity.
Something FF7 didn't have.
Hell, if Bioshock is a pretty short game, then that saves it a lot more, because it wouldn't seem as tedious as FF7. |
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Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 7:48 pm
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Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 7:50 pm
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Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 7:56 pm
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Skarmy Final Fantasy vii had a terrific storyline. Actually-Quote: (well, save for the plot. It seems they actually tried with the plot that time) Quote: Only good thing about the game was the plot
Plot is not the only good thing. It has terrific narrative and tells the whole story very well.
Actually, take this review and see for yourself from a professionals view.
http://www.gamespot.com/ps/rpg/finalfantasy7/review.html Oh hi. Lets Pokebattle
Didn't say it was good.
If you read further in the posts, you'd noticed that I also said that it was starting to drag on.
Also, I stopped when he said "Film-quality computer-generated cinematics"
Yeah... You know this guy is already over exaggerating it.
yeah, uh, in 97 they were film quality. They considered Ocarina of Time the greatest graphics of it's time. Have you played that game recently?
Way to just completely stop reading because you didn't agree with something.
You don't think it's a good game, s**t loads of other people think it's a terrific game. Case closed. |
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Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 8:10 pm
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