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bassmule Rellik San Morphine-Season Emotive Hardcore, it's a sub-genre of Punk Rock. Erm... yes, because Killswitch Engage, Atreyu, Hearts will Bleed, The Back Horn, Life of Agony and Hatebreed, have so much in common with the likes of the Ramones, Pennywise, Less then Jake and Rancid, they sound just like an off shoot. Its a sub-genre of heavy metal, all the stuff that claims to be emo and is punk twinged, is actually pop music, not emo. The ******** are you talking about? Hardcore has and always will be a s style of Punk and not Metal. Emo has always been a style of Hardcore Punk and has nothing to do with Metal, where do you get your information?
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Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 7:31 pm
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Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 7:43 pm
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Morphine-Season bassmule Rellik San Morphine-Season Emotive Hardcore, it's a sub-genre of Punk Rock. Erm... yes, because Killswitch Engage, Atreyu, Hearts will Bleed, The Back Horn, Life of Agony and Hatebreed, have so much in common with the likes of the Ramones, Pennywise, Less then Jake and Rancid, they sound just like an off shoot. Its a sub-genre of heavy metal, all the stuff that claims to be emo and is punk twinged, is actually pop music, not emo. The ******** are you talking about? Hardcore has and always will be a s style of Punk and not Metal. Emo has always been a style of Hardcore Punk and has nothing to do with Metal, where do you get your information? Glad to see someone else agrees.
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Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 5:12 am
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bassmule Rellik San Morphine-Season Emotive Hardcore, it's a sub-genre of Punk Rock. Erm... yes, because Killswitch Engage, Atreyu, Hearts will Bleed, The Back Horn, Life of Agony and Hatebreed, have so much in common with the likes of the Ramones, Pennywise, Less then Jake and Rancid, they sound just like an off shoot. Its a sub-genre of heavy metal, all the stuff that claims to be emo and is punk twinged, is actually pop music, not emo. The ******** are you talking about? Hardcore has and always will be a s style of Punk and not Metal. Emo has always been a style of Hardcore Punk and has nothing to do with Metal, where do you get your information?
Ok, ok, I'll do this the hard way:
Killswitch Engage = Emo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8rnaSvKwzY
Devil Driver = Metal
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mmk3KD_Vdeg
Pennywise = Punk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECElYO8CQsg
Which one does the KSE song have more in common with?
Here, Direct, F***ing comparisson, if you still think it has something to do with punk, then tell me why, don't regurgatate something you were told or beleive, look for yourself and use your common freaking sense.
Secondly, skate as a genre of music?
Sum 41, Less then Jake etc. Sound oddly akin to Pennywise, right? Well then, look at it this way, these are Bubblegum Punk bands. Not as hard hitting as normal punk, your all getting confused, yes there is a genre called hardcore punk, but it has nothing to do with the emotive hardcore from which emo gets its name.
Metalcore? WTF! of course its a made up genre, whats the core of metal music? what is the progeniter of it? I'll tell you what, HEAVY F***ING METAL! thats what, so how when, Iron Maiden, Black Sabbath and Motorhead, are the defining structure for all metal bands... efectively the 'core' of metal (see where I'm going with this?) How the f*** can you have metal core? ITS MADE UP BECAUSE NO ONE IN ANY METAL CIRCLE LIKES ATREYU!
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Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 6:44 am
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Rellik San bassmule Rellik San Morphine-Season Emotive Hardcore, it's a sub-genre of Punk Rock. Erm... yes, because Killswitch Engage, Atreyu, Hearts will Bleed, The Back Horn, Life of Agony and Hatebreed, have so much in common with the likes of the Ramones, Pennywise, Less then Jake and Rancid, they sound just like an off shoot. Its a sub-genre of heavy metal, all the stuff that claims to be emo and is punk twinged, is actually pop music, not emo. The ******** are you talking about? Hardcore has and always will be a s style of Punk and not Metal. Emo has always been a style of Hardcore Punk and has nothing to do with Metal, where do you get your information? Ok, ok, I'll do this the hard way: Killswitch Engage = Emo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8rnaSvKwzYDevil Driver = Metal http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mmk3KD_VdegPennywise = Punk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECElYO8CQsgWhich one does the KSE song have more in common with? Here, Direct, F***ing comparisson, if you still think it has something to do with punk, then tell me why, don't regurgatate something you were told or beleive, look for yourself and use your common freaking sense. Secondly, skate as a genre of music? Sum 41, Less then Jake etc. Sound oddly akin to Pennywise, right? Well then, look at it this way, these are Bubblegum Punk bands. Not as hard hitting as normal punk, your all getting confused, yes there is a genre called hardcore punk, but it has nothing to do with the emotive hardcore from which emo gets its name. Metalcore? WTF! of course its a made up genre, whats the core of metal music? what is the progeniter of it? I'll tell you what, HEAVY F***ING METAL! thats what, so how when, Iron Maiden, Black Sabbath and Motorhead, are the defining structure for all metal bands... efectively the 'core' of metal (see where I'm going with this?) How the f*** can you have metal core? ITS MADE UP BECAUSE NO ONE IN ANY METAL CIRCLE LIKES ATREYU! Use your freaking brains people.
Wtf is your problem you elitist d**k? Get your head out of your a**.
You've been told by more than one person that you're wrong so you have a little b***h fit and tell US to use our brains? Wtf?
And then you go and start dismissing ******** music genres just because you don't like them? The hell? You arrogant a*****e. |
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Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 8:27 am
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Morphine-Season Rellik San bassmule Rellik San Morphine-Season Emotive Hardcore, it's a sub-genre of Punk Rock. Erm... yes, because Killswitch Engage, Atreyu, Hearts will Bleed, The Back Horn, Life of Agony and Hatebreed, have so much in common with the likes of the Ramones, Pennywise, Less then Jake and Rancid, they sound just like an off shoot. Its a sub-genre of heavy metal, all the stuff that claims to be emo and is punk twinged, is actually pop music, not emo. The ******** are you talking about? Hardcore has and always will be a s style of Punk and not Metal. Emo has always been a style of Hardcore Punk and has nothing to do with Metal, where do you get your information? Ok, ok, I'll do this the hard way: Killswitch Engage = Emo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8rnaSvKwzYDevil Driver = Metal http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mmk3KD_VdegPennywise = Punk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECElYO8CQsgWhich one does the KSE song have more in common with? Here, Direct, F***ing comparisson, if you still think it has something to do with punk, then tell me why, don't regurgatate something you were told or beleive, look for yourself and use your common freaking sense. Secondly, skate as a genre of music? Sum 41, Less then Jake etc. Sound oddly akin to Pennywise, right? Well then, look at it this way, these are Bubblegum Punk bands. Not as hard hitting as normal punk, your all getting confused, yes there is a genre called hardcore punk, but it has nothing to do with the emotive hardcore from which emo gets its name. Metalcore? WTF! of course its a made up genre, whats the core of metal music? what is the progeniter of it? I'll tell you what, HEAVY F***ING METAL! thats what, so how when, Iron Maiden, Black Sabbath and Motorhead, are the defining structure for all metal bands... efectively the 'core' of metal (see where I'm going with this?) How the f*** can you have metal core? ITS MADE UP BECAUSE NO ONE IN ANY METAL CIRCLE LIKES ATREYU! Use your freaking brains people. Wtf is your problem you elitist d**k? Get your head out of your a**. You've been told by more than one person that you're wrong so you have a little b***h fit and tell US to use our brains? Wtf? And then you go and start dismissing ******** music genres just because you don't like them? The hell? You arrogant a*****e.
No I'm not elitest, just everyone has there wire's crossed, I've proved my opinion, and argued it, no one has come up with a strong counter argument, so why should I accept their points?
If metal core is an exsistant genre, then please, tell me, why my friends, that have been fans of metal longer then any of you have lived, why my mother, who's been a fan and followed metal since its inception, and why several local metal bands around where I live, have never ever heard of it? |
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Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 8:50 am
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Rellik San Morphine-Season Rellik San bassmule Rellik San Morphine-Season Emotive Hardcore, it's a sub-genre of Punk Rock. Erm... yes, because Killswitch Engage, Atreyu, Hearts will Bleed, The Back Horn, Life of Agony and Hatebreed, have so much in common with the likes of the Ramones, Pennywise, Less then Jake and Rancid, they sound just like an off shoot. Its a sub-genre of heavy metal, all the stuff that claims to be emo and is punk twinged, is actually pop music, not emo. The ******** are you talking about? Hardcore has and always will be a s style of Punk and not Metal. Emo has always been a style of Hardcore Punk and has nothing to do with Metal, where do you get your information? Ok, ok, I'll do this the hard way: Killswitch Engage = Emo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8rnaSvKwzYDevil Driver = Metal http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mmk3KD_VdegPennywise = Punk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECElYO8CQsgWhich one does the KSE song have more in common with? Here, Direct, F***ing comparisson, if you still think it has something to do with punk, then tell me why, don't regurgatate something you were told or beleive, look for yourself and use your common freaking sense. Secondly, skate as a genre of music? Sum 41, Less then Jake etc. Sound oddly akin to Pennywise, right? Well then, look at it this way, these are Bubblegum Punk bands. Not as hard hitting as normal punk, your all getting confused, yes there is a genre called hardcore punk, but it has nothing to do with the emotive hardcore from which emo gets its name. Metalcore? WTF! of course its a made up genre, whats the core of metal music? what is the progeniter of it? I'll tell you what, HEAVY F***ING METAL! thats what, so how when, Iron Maiden, Black Sabbath and Motorhead, are the defining structure for all metal bands... efectively the 'core' of metal (see where I'm going with this?) How the f*** can you have metal core? ITS MADE UP BECAUSE NO ONE IN ANY METAL CIRCLE LIKES ATREYU! Use your freaking brains people. Wtf is your problem you elitist d**k? Get your head out of your a**. You've been told by more than one person that you're wrong so you have a little b***h fit and tell US to use our brains? Wtf? And then you go and start dismissing ******** music genres just because you don't like them? The hell? You arrogant a*****e. No I'm not elitest, just everyone has there wire's crossed, I've proved my opinion, and argued it, no one has come up with a strong counter argument, so why should I accept their points? If metal core is an exsistant genre, then please, tell me, why my friends, that have been fans of metal longer then any of you have lived, why my mother, who's been a fan and followed metal since its inception, and why several local metal bands around where I live, have never ever heard of it?
What the hell? So because you and your metal head friends haven't heard of Metalcore, that means it doesn't exist? What kind of ******** dipshit logic is that? There's a HUGE amount of music genres, you can't ******** say they don't exist just because your ******** a** doesn't know about them you dumb b*****d.
Go look s**t up before you start throwing your half-assed excuses around moron.
Also, you've not done much to prove anything. I've showed you a fair amount of evidence which you've continued to dismiss. So shut the ******** up. |
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Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 10:02 am
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Morphine-Season Rellik San Morphine-Season Rellik San bassmule The ******** are you talking about? Hardcore has and always will be a s style of Punk and not Metal. Emo has always been a style of Hardcore Punk and has nothing to do with Metal, where do you get your information? Ok, ok, I'll do this the hard way: Killswitch Engage = Emo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8rnaSvKwzYDevil Driver = Metal http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mmk3KD_VdegPennywise = Punk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECElYO8CQsgWhich one does the KSE song have more in common with? Here, Direct, F***ing comparisson, if you still think it has something to do with punk, then tell me why, don't regurgatate something you were told or beleive, look for yourself and use your common freaking sense. Secondly, skate as a genre of music? Sum 41, Less then Jake etc. Sound oddly akin to Pennywise, right? Well then, look at it this way, these are Bubblegum Punk bands. Not as hard hitting as normal punk, your all getting confused, yes there is a genre called hardcore punk, but it has nothing to do with the emotive hardcore from which emo gets its name. Metalcore? WTF! of course its a made up genre, whats the core of metal music? what is the progeniter of it? I'll tell you what, HEAVY F***ING METAL! thats what, so how when, Iron Maiden, Black Sabbath and Motorhead, are the defining structure for all metal bands... efectively the 'core' of metal (see where I'm going with this?) How the f*** can you have metal core? ITS MADE UP BECAUSE NO ONE IN ANY METAL CIRCLE LIKES ATREYU! Use your freaking brains people. Wtf is your problem you elitist d**k? Get your head out of your a**. You've been told by more than one person that you're wrong so you have a little b***h fit and tell US to use our brains? Wtf? And then you go and start dismissing ******** music genres just because you don't like them? The hell? You arrogant a*****e. No I'm not elitest, just everyone has there wire's crossed, I've proved my opinion, and argued it, no one has come up with a strong counter argument, so why should I accept their points? If metal core is an exsistant genre, then please, tell me, why my friends, that have been fans of metal longer then any of you have lived, why my mother, who's been a fan and followed metal since its inception, and why several local metal bands around where I live, have never ever heard of it? What the hell? So because you and your metal head friends haven't heard of Metalcore, that means it doesn't exist? What kind of ******** dipshit logic is that? There's a HUGE amount of music genres, you can't ******** say they don't exist just because your ******** a** doesn't know about them you dumb b*****d. Go look s**t up before you start throwing your half-assed excuses around moron. Also, you've not done much to prove anything. I've showed you a fair amount of evidence which you've continued to dismiss. So shut the ******** up.
Ok then, if you so smart, how long has metal core exsisted? name 10 metal core bands and what defines the genre from other much stronger established types of metal?
Lets see, the debate is about Emotive Hardcore, music is defined, not by some idiot who posted a wiki, but by your ears. No one has turned around yet, and compared the music samples, I provided. Do you know why? Because of the realisation I am right.
Yes, from punk, we do get emotional music, which has had its wires crossed, with emotive hardcore, which if you look through my posts, I'm arguing the point based on an emotive hardcore discussion. Not emotional music in general. Do you want me to give you a long list of god damn comparisons? |
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Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 10:42 am
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Rellik San Morphine-Season Rellik San Morphine-Season Rellik San bassmule The ******** are you talking about? Hardcore has and always will be a s style of Punk and not Metal. Emo has always been a style of Hardcore Punk and has nothing to do with Metal, where do you get your information? Ok, ok, I'll do this the hard way: Killswitch Engage = Emo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8rnaSvKwzYDevil Driver = Metal http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mmk3KD_VdegPennywise = Punk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECElYO8CQsgWhich one does the KSE song have more in common with? Here, Direct, F***ing comparisson, if you still think it has something to do with punk, then tell me why, don't regurgatate something you were told or beleive, look for yourself and use your common freaking sense. Secondly, skate as a genre of music? Sum 41, Less then Jake etc. Sound oddly akin to Pennywise, right? Well then, look at it this way, these are Bubblegum Punk bands. Not as hard hitting as normal punk, your all getting confused, yes there is a genre called hardcore punk, but it has nothing to do with the emotive hardcore from which emo gets its name. Metalcore? WTF! of course its a made up genre, whats the core of metal music? what is the progeniter of it? I'll tell you what, HEAVY F***ING METAL! thats what, so how when, Iron Maiden, Black Sabbath and Motorhead, are the defining structure for all metal bands... efectively the 'core' of metal (see where I'm going with this?) How the f*** can you have metal core? ITS MADE UP BECAUSE NO ONE IN ANY METAL CIRCLE LIKES ATREYU! Use your freaking brains people. Wtf is your problem you elitist d**k? Get your head out of your a**. You've been told by more than one person that you're wrong so you have a little b***h fit and tell US to use our brains? Wtf? And then you go and start dismissing ******** music genres just because you don't like them? The hell? You arrogant a*****e. No I'm not elitest, just everyone has there wire's crossed, I've proved my opinion, and argued it, no one has come up with a strong counter argument, so why should I accept their points? If metal core is an exsistant genre, then please, tell me, why my friends, that have been fans of metal longer then any of you have lived, why my mother, who's been a fan and followed metal since its inception, and why several local metal bands around where I live, have never ever heard of it? What the hell? So because you and your metal head friends haven't heard of Metalcore, that means it doesn't exist? What kind of ******** dipshit logic is that? There's a HUGE amount of music genres, you can't ******** say they don't exist just because your ******** a** doesn't know about them you dumb b*****d. Go look s**t up before you start throwing your half-assed excuses around moron. Also, you've not done much to prove anything. I've showed you a fair amount of evidence which you've continued to dismiss. So shut the ******** up. Ok then, if you so smart, how long has metal core exsisted? name 10 metal core bands and what defines the genre from other much stronger established types of metal? Lets see, the debate is about Emotive Hardcore, music is defined, not by some idiot who posted a wiki, but by your ears. No one has turned around yet, and compared the music samples, I provided. Do you know why? Because of the realisation I am right. Yes, from punk, we do get emotional music, which has had its wires crossed, with emotive hardcore, which if you look through my posts, I'm arguing the point based on an emotive hardcore discussion. Not emotional music in general. Do you want me to give you a long list of god damn comparisons?
Some people say it started in the 1980's, but it's only started to gain popularity recently (2000 and so on).
As for bands, here:
Atreyu
Every Time I Die
As I Lay Dying
Bleeding Through
Bullet For My Valentine
The Chariot
Bury Your Dead
The Dillinger Escape Plan
From Autumn To Ashes
Hopesfall
Norma Jean
UnderOath
Metalcore is a mix of Hardcore Punk and Heavy Metal. And no it's obviously not as huge as other forms of metal, but it does exist. It's kind of rooted with Thrash and Death Metal.
And all you can do is damn comparisons YOU see. You don't bother to get proof from any other sources to back your claims. |
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Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 4:24 pm
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Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 4:49 pm
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Rellik San bassmule Rellik San Morphine-Season Emotive Hardcore, it's a sub-genre of Punk Rock. Erm... yes, because Killswitch Engage, Atreyu, Hearts will Bleed, The Back Horn, Life of Agony and Hatebreed, have so much in common with the likes of the Ramones, Pennywise, Less then Jake and Rancid, they sound just like an off shoot. Its a sub-genre of heavy metal, all the stuff that claims to be emo and is punk twinged, is actually pop music, not emo. The ******** are you talking about? Hardcore has and always will be a s style of Punk and not Metal. Emo has always been a style of Hardcore Punk and has nothing to do with Metal, where do you get your information? Ok, ok, I'll do this the hard way: Killswitch Engage = Emo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8rnaSvKwzYDevil Driver = Metal http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mmk3KD_VdegPennywise = Punk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECElYO8CQsgWhich one does the KSE song have more in common with? Here, Direct, F***ing comparisson, if you still think it has something to do with punk, then tell me why, don't regurgatate something you were told or beleive, look for yourself and use your common freaking sense. Secondly, skate as a genre of music? Sum 41, Less then Jake etc. Sound oddly akin to Pennywise, right? Well then, look at it this way, these are Bubblegum Punk bands. Not as hard hitting as normal punk, your all getting confused, yes there is a genre called hardcore punk, but it has nothing to do with the emotive hardcore from which emo gets its name. Metalcore? WTF! of course its a made up genre, whats the core of metal music? what is the progeniter of it? I'll tell you what, HEAVY F***ING METAL! thats what, so how when, Iron Maiden, Black Sabbath and Motorhead, are the defining structure for all metal bands... efectively the 'core' of metal (see where I'm going with this?) How the f*** can you have metal core? ITS MADE UP BECAUSE NO ONE IN ANY METAL CIRCLE LIKES ATREYU! Use your freaking brains people.
WHOEVER TOLD YOU KSE IS EMO IS FULL OF s**t AND SO ARE YOU. The core in Metalcore represent the Hardocre influence added onto Metal and has been around since the late 80's. How the ******** does a couple of Metal heads disliking Atreyu denounce an entire genre? Holy ******** you're completely retarded.
Here is the link to Metalcore 101:
http://www.gaiaonline.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=11513027
Spend some time there before you start talking about something you haven't the faintest idea about.
I'll even give you some Metalcore videos.
All Out War - Resist
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGgtyxEeLds
Shai Hulud - Set Your Body Ablaze
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y84LSPaHQK8
Feel free to browse through the countless Converge videos on Youtube.
As for comparing Emotive Hardcore and Hardcore, here:
Hassan I sabbah, a generally unknown but great Emo band
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wh0y1Rvz1o
Minor Threat, I picked them because even you should know them as a Hardcore band and I didn't want to confuse you too much by picking out anything obscure.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78XD9Qkjwf0
If you can't hear a difference then you're a total idiot and have no right talking about Emo anymore. |
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Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 5:39 pm
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Morphine-Season Rellik San Morphine-Season Rellik San Morphine-Season Wtf is your problem you elitist d**k? Get your head out of your a**. You've been told by more than one person that you're wrong so you have a little b***h fit and tell US to use our brains? Wtf? And then you go and start dismissing ******** music genres just because you don't like them? The hell? You arrogant a*****e. No I'm not elitest, just everyone has there wire's crossed, I've proved my opinion, and argued it, no one has come up with a strong counter argument, so why should I accept their points? If metal core is an exsistant genre, then please, tell me, why my friends, that have been fans of metal longer then any of you have lived, why my mother, who's been a fan and followed metal since its inception, and why several local metal bands around where I live, have never ever heard of it? What the hell? So because you and your metal head friends haven't heard of Metalcore, that means it doesn't exist? What kind of ******** dipshit logic is that? There's a HUGE amount of music genres, you can't ******** say they don't exist just because your ******** a** doesn't know about them you dumb b*****d. Go look s**t up before you start throwing your half-assed excuses around moron. Also, you've not done much to prove anything. I've showed you a fair amount of evidence which you've continued to dismiss. So shut the ******** up. Ok then, if you so smart, how long has metal core exsisted? name 10 metal core bands and what defines the genre from other much stronger established types of metal? Lets see, the debate is about Emotive Hardcore, music is defined, not by some idiot who posted a wiki, but by your ears. No one has turned around yet, and compared the music samples, I provided. Do you know why? Because of the realisation I am right. Yes, from punk, we do get emotional music, which has had its wires crossed, with emotive hardcore, which if you look through my posts, I'm arguing the point based on an emotive hardcore discussion. Not emotional music in general. Do you want me to give you a long list of god damn comparisons? Some people say it started in the 1980's, but it's only started to gain popularity recently (2000 and so on). As for bands, here: Atreyu Every Time I Die As I Lay Dying Bleeding Through Bullet For My Valentine The ChariotBury Your Dead The Dillinger Escape Plan From Autumn To Ashes Hopesfall Norma Jean UnderOath Metalcore is a mix of Hardcore Punk and Heavy Metal. And no it's obviously not as huge as other forms of metal, but it does exist. It's kind of rooted with Thrash and Death Metal. And all you can do is damn comparisons YOU see. You don't bother to get proof from any other sources to back your claims.
Just a small tweak. |
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Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 7:39 pm
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