Disappeared for ages back in a week or two

[Rellik San]

bassmule

Rellik San

bassmule

Rellik San

Chaos A.D.

music no a days si so corrupted, i like how 80's and 90's bands, you can't mix up with the genre...and they don't have stupid sub-underground-genres.

Pretty much my view lol, certain mixes like 'folk-metal' yeah I can understand its metal and folk music combined. But what the ******** is metalcore?

Actually Post-Punk, Hardcore, New Wave, Metal(along with most, if not all, it's sub-genres) where created in the 80's so there was no lack of sub-genres. I'm beginning to think you just act like you're a complete retard, I don't know how many times it's been explained to you. Metalcore is Hardcore combined with elements of Metal, obviously you don't understand that because you're under the illusion Hardcore is a form of Metal. What bands calls themselves and what they really are two different things, just because they're in a band doesn't mean they're the definitive source of musical knowledge. FFTL called Simon and Garfunkle Emo, so seeing as they're in a band that must make them right.

Simon and Garfunkle are emotional, so its an apt remark. By the way, from what your saying supposedly metal core bands like Trivium and KSE have punk inspirations... you never have answered the question of WHERE!?

Face it, your washed up your arguments have no balance and no form.

Except Emo doesn't mean emotional so it's moot. Metalcore take their rhythms from modern Hardcore such as Madball and Earth Crisis as well as breakdowns from 80's Hardcore. You however have never answered why Hardcore is a Metal genre.

Because it is a base form of metal, supposedly a raw form with all the bells and whistles removed. As such its music founded in pure aggresion. Like I said before, with my upbringing friends, and a fair few magazine clippings I'll be happy to scan for you, I think I'm in a much more favourable position then you are in this argument.  

[Rellik San]

xLIZA

bassmule

Don't feel bad, he's not threatening either.

Not to you.
But it's agreeable he's much more influential mod than I am.

Control the minds control the masses its all about power, the fact Bassmule and I have this ongoing debate, is testment to the fact we each have strong enough wills to be leaders and not led.

Its all about reputation mostly.  

[xdownwithxtheshipx]

Rellik San

bassmule

Rellik San

bassmule

Rellik San

Chaos A.D.

music no a days si so corrupted, i like how 80's and 90's bands, you can't mix up with the genre...and they don't have stupid sub-underground-genres.

Pretty much my view lol, certain mixes like 'folk-metal' yeah I can understand its metal and folk music combined. But what the ******** is metalcore?

Actually Post-Punk, Hardcore, New Wave, Metal(along with most, if not all, it's sub-genres) where created in the 80's so there was no lack of sub-genres. I'm beginning to think you just act like you're a complete retard, I don't know how many times it's been explained to you. Metalcore is Hardcore combined with elements of Metal, obviously you don't understand that because you're under the illusion Hardcore is a form of Metal. What bands calls themselves and what they really are two different things, just because they're in a band doesn't mean they're the definitive source of musical knowledge. FFTL called Simon and Garfunkle Emo, so seeing as they're in a band that must make them right.

Simon and Garfunkle are emotional, so its an apt remark. By the way, from what your saying supposedly metal core bands like Trivium and KSE have punk inspirations... you never have answered the question of WHERE!?

Face it, your washed up your arguments have no balance and no form.

Except Emo doesn't mean emotional so it's moot. Metalcore take their rhythms from modern Hardcore such as Madball and Earth Crisis as well as breakdowns from 80's Hardcore. You however have never answered why Hardcore is a Metal genre.

Because it is a base form of metal, supposedly a raw form with all the bells and whistles removed. As such its music founded in pure aggresion. Like I said before, with my upbringing friends, and a fair few magazine clippings I'll be happy to scan for you, I think I'm in a much more favourable position then you are in this argument.

That doesn't work, a style of Punk rock cannot be a base form of Metal, they're two completely different genre's. Especially when Metal was developed a full decade or more before Hardcore even came about. But go ahead and scan them, I need a good laugh.  

[Rellik San]

bassmule

Rellik San

bassmule

Rellik San

bassmule

Actually Post-Punk, Hardcore, New Wave, Metal(along with most, if not all, it's sub-genres) where created in the 80's so there was no lack of sub-genres. I'm beginning to think you just act like you're a complete retard, I don't know how many times it's been explained to you. Metalcore is Hardcore combined with elements of Metal, obviously you don't understand that because you're under the illusion Hardcore is a form of Metal. What bands calls themselves and what they really are two different things, just because they're in a band doesn't mean they're the definitive source of musical knowledge. FFTL called Simon and Garfunkle Emo, so seeing as they're in a band that must make them right.

Simon and Garfunkle are emotional, so its an apt remark. By the way, from what your saying supposedly metal core bands like Trivium and KSE have punk inspirations... you never have answered the question of WHERE!?

Face it, your washed up your arguments have no balance and no form.

Except Emo doesn't mean emotional so it's moot. Metalcore take their rhythms from modern Hardcore such as Madball and Earth Crisis as well as breakdowns from 80's Hardcore. You however have never answered why Hardcore is a Metal genre.

Because it is a base form of metal, supposedly a raw form with all the bells and whistles removed. As such its music founded in pure aggresion. Like I said before, with my upbringing friends, and a fair few magazine clippings I'll be happy to scan for you, I think I'm in a much more favourable position then you are in this argument.

That doesn't work, a style of Punk rock cannot be a base form of Metal, they're two completely different genre's. Especially when Metal was developed a full decade or more before Hardcore even came about. But go ahead and scan them, I need a good laugh.

Sub-genres can be born after the parent genre is formed you know...

The simple fact is, your someone I've never met, trying to convince of something I so totally beleive, have read and have been taught by various sources, your not going to win, and its vice versa for you, lets just drop this, I'll pm the scans to you. Agreed?  

[xdownwithxtheshipx]

Rellik San

bassmule

Rellik San

bassmule

Rellik San

bassmule

Actually Post-Punk, Hardcore, New Wave, Metal(along with most, if not all, it's sub-genres) where created in the 80's so there was no lack of sub-genres. I'm beginning to think you just act like you're a complete retard, I don't know how many times it's been explained to you. Metalcore is Hardcore combined with elements of Metal, obviously you don't understand that because you're under the illusion Hardcore is a form of Metal. What bands calls themselves and what they really are two different things, just because they're in a band doesn't mean they're the definitive source of musical knowledge. FFTL called Simon and Garfunkle Emo, so seeing as they're in a band that must make them right.

Simon and Garfunkle are emotional, so its an apt remark. By the way, from what your saying supposedly metal core bands like Trivium and KSE have punk inspirations... you never have answered the question of WHERE!?

Face it, your washed up your arguments have no balance and no form.

Except Emo doesn't mean emotional so it's moot. Metalcore take their rhythms from modern Hardcore such as Madball and Earth Crisis as well as breakdowns from 80's Hardcore. You however have never answered why Hardcore is a Metal genre.

Because it is a base form of metal, supposedly a raw form with all the bells and whistles removed. As such its music founded in pure aggresion. Like I said before, with my upbringing friends, and a fair few magazine clippings I'll be happy to scan for you, I think I'm in a much more favourable position then you are in this argument.

That doesn't work, a style of Punk rock cannot be a base form of Metal, they're two completely different genre's. Especially when Metal was developed a full decade or more before Hardcore even came about. But go ahead and scan them, I need a good laugh.

Sub-genres can be born after the parent genre is formed you know...

The simple fact is, your someone I've never met, trying to convince of something I so totally beleive, have read and have been taught by various sources, your not going to win, and its vice versa for you, lets just drop this, I'll pm the scans to you. Agreed?

Meh fair enough, but if I see any Guitar World articles I'll know for sure you'll full of s**t.  

[Rellik San]

bassmule

Rellik San

bassmule

Rellik San

bassmule

Except Emo doesn't mean emotional so it's moot. Metalcore take their rhythms from modern Hardcore such as Madball and Earth Crisis as well as breakdowns from 80's Hardcore. You however have never answered why Hardcore is a Metal genre.

Because it is a base form of metal, supposedly a raw form with all the bells and whistles removed. As such its music founded in pure aggresion. Like I said before, with my upbringing friends, and a fair few magazine clippings I'll be happy to scan for you, I think I'm in a much more favourable position then you are in this argument.

That doesn't work, a style of Punk rock cannot be a base form of Metal, they're two completely different genre's. Especially when Metal was developed a full decade or more before Hardcore even came about. But go ahead and scan them, I need a good laugh.

Sub-genres can be born after the parent genre is formed you know...

The simple fact is, your someone I've never met, trying to convince of something I so totally beleive, have read and have been taught by various sources, your not going to win, and its vice versa for you, lets just drop this, I'll pm the scans to you. Agreed?

Meh fair enough, but if I see any Guitar World articles I'll know for sure you'll full of s**t.

Kerrang (pre 2000 back when it covered metal and covered it well) and Terrorizer articles mostly.