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I dont have any problems with any religions out there.

I have problems with ppl who go out and preach "THIS WAY OR HELL" kind of thinking. In my Area, thee are 2-3 channels which have on, durring some block of air time, Southern Babtists TV shows which will bash other religions. I remember watching one preacher discussing Mulism and thier believes. Main one he was focused on was that to every person, 2 angels are there to guide them. and what he said, they arent angels with them, they are demons. He was doing everything in his power to smear the Mulsim religious believes.

The only reason why i stayed and watched it, was b/c i was getting a kick out of it. Made me giggle that ppl would actually believe what he is saying.

I'm Luthren which is a breanch of christianity. My boyfriend is a wiccan/pagen. I have no problems with other religions, all because I do not understand them doesn't give me the right to judge them. However because it is my boyfriend and we are thinking about meriage I must think about how our religions would raise the children. I am not an every sunday church type person but I do go to church often, and help out my church. According to my beliefs those who do not believe that Jesus died on the croos for them, and rose victorious over death and the devil witll go to hell. In other words I think baptists, cathlics ect will be saved (Even though some of the teachers in my sister church think otherwise) I gice my boyfriend his space and let him do his own thing, but I will admit to haveing confided that I was not comfterable about him becoming one so suddenly. I studied it and looked it over (Not believeing it just free time reasing) a lot of it is understandable given an open mind, however when I meet his teacher, mintor, or whatever you would like to call the person teaching him this religion I found him to be the exact opposite person I had in mind. He was arrogent, and very hard for me to get along with in my mind so I just kept my mouth shut. I told him about his teachers false teachings and he quickly dropped him all together even as a friend. Granted I didn't like him either, but found it pretty cruel. Either way he still says he believes it, and that is something I can not force him to change even if I know part of me would like to. I feel strongly in waht my religion tells me and it scares me that he may go to hell, but according to him he may be reborn later and so will I. It is a soothing thought. Either way I do not feel I should try to change him, but I have told him that by showing me this I feel unsave, and nercous around him because I am not sure of how to act. Which may be natural because of my upbringing. So all things considered they are their own religion and so is christianity. They have gods I have a god. (Not capitalizing anything to avoid conflict) People should be redicuiled for thier belives. Pagen/Wiccans aren't all about magic. They have a goddess named Ferya but that's the only one I can remember at this time. So I will act the way I would anytime. I will just either leave during a cerimony, or not participate. When asked why I will state it is against my religion to comute this way I'm sorry. If they enforce it I will state I do not force you to come to my church you have no right to enforce me to join you in something I do not believe is correct. It may sound cold but it is true. The same goes eith the tables turned. We can not force people to believe something else. You either do it because you want to (Catholic belive), you do it because the Holy Spirit put faith in you're heart (my believe), and the list goes on.

Your god is far from perfect. Wether or not you agree with it, that is his opinion. The debate subforum is not for considering other peoples feelings; it's for debating and looking for that actual truth. No what you want to believe, because it makes you feel better. Either way, you saying that his statement hurt your feelings is going off on a tangent and so is my reply.

Well, he wasn't saying that god created the wars. He was saying that religion created the wars. Why would someone who didn't believe in god, think that he started wars? In saying that he'd be admitting that he believed in god. While he did say god instead of religion, that is his problem with not realizing that not all religions have just one god. He should have said "God is used to cause wars" instead of "God causes wars."

I think by unintelligent he means that they didn't have as much technology as us, so instead of leaving it a mystery they made something up to explain it. Religion.

Religion may not be able to be proved or disproved. Just deeply anayled. The more you analyze something, the more familiar with it's faults you should become. So as a general rule, most people only agree and believe 100% in their religion because they don't anaylze it, including it's faults. They instead use a scapegoat or use some other form of a lame excuse for their religions faults. Instead of embracing the whole religion faults and all. Religion is the only thing that I know of where lieing is a good thing. By this statement I mean that instead of just accepting, say that the Christian good has faults, claim that he is perfect. When, if you anaylze the bible, he is not, although even in the bible he is held to supernatural standards, and supposedly doesn't commit the seven deadly sins. Yet, he takes so much pride in the flawed race he created, that he discriminates against sexual preference, because he made a man for a woman and woman for men.

It wasn't that you were harrassing him or anything, it's just that I was tring to correct your misunderstandings. I hope the longer explaination helped.

While I agree with you that everyone has the right to their beliefs, I think that they aren't doing anybody any good if they aren't being anaylzed. If people are just accepting them as fact. Which is the problem that I find with most ALL religions and most ALL people. As with all things, there are special exceptions. Don't get me wrong: I still think we should abolish that ancient religion system, just that atleast one off the top of my head, has some substance and actual truth to it. It isn't one of the religions you'd expect and it is one of those religions, that in order to believe it, you actually have to study it, because it is so misunderstood in society.

Oy..

Okay.. to clear something up (my apologies once again if I am reiterating).

Fact: Wicca is a constructed religion JUST as Christianity is.

Fact: Wicca is NOT an ancient religion as many of it's practicers would like to believe it is. It was created in the 1950s by Gerald Gardner, a known friend and comrade of Aleister Crowley, subjugator and abusor of women, who practiced sex magic.

Fact: Wicca in it's origin is extremely hierarchical and exclusive.

Fact: Christianity is just as symbolic and spiritual as Wicca, it is just expressed in different ways and purely depends on the individual practicing.

Fact: Wicca requires more out of it's practicers then Christianity does.

Fact: BOTH are a way of life.

Was I raised Christian? No. Did I got to Catholic elementary and highschool? Yes. Was I a minor in religious studies at University? Yes.

Here is the small and short of it people: Religion is religion. There are spiritualities and mysticisms where anyone wants to find it.

Congrates I see no faults what you say ^___^ and it's not said in an offancive way either. *claps happily* Thank you I agree.

I respect all religions and find them all interesting, but yes im a christian. Catholic to be specific. Even though i am i try not to change people's religion and stuff, some airhead catholics may try to, because they are not really as religious as they say they are. So to all the people who aren't christian, if you come across someone who is trying to change your religion just brush them off. I wanted to get that point across because it seems like many non-christians think that christians are.. idk how to describe it.. im just going to say smug..

All religions are almost the same. We all have our Creators, Saviors, miracles, myths, and stories. Criticism isn't going to solve a problem, either. Although someone might call me commiting blasphemy for saying that. Hindus, Christians, Buudhists, etc. should really get along and join together. I am Catholic, therefore Christian, and I see that God is my Savior. Buddhists find Buudha as there Saviors, so do the Hindus. Every religion has the same base theme: good. From that, many things develop, from different mythological beliefs. The only thing that seperates people apart is creation. "God made you this.""Buudha created you like that." This is the reason we are separated, what we belive how they do things, but most people believe it's what they do.