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 Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 11:56 am
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Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 7:54 pm
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Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 11:46 am
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Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 4:08 pm
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Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 2:35 pm
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Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 6:06 pm
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I'm not all too familiar with Japanese myself, but I might be able to answer some of your questions...
san, kun, chan, and sama are suffixes that are supposed to be added at the end of a name, unless the one addressing the person is a close friend. In that case, no suffix is used. Usually san is used for people you don't know well, higher-ups, stuff like that, a polite suffix I guess. Kun is usually used for boys around teenage age (although san is also used, likewise for girls). I'm not quite sure if anyone can use it, but I think so... Chan is usually used for children, highschool girls, and is sometimes said with a guy's name, but not usually. I think that's only if the person is close friends with the guy and it's a nickname or something. Sama is usually only used for extremely important people, an example would be like Kami-sama. I'm not quite sure how to explain these suffixes that well. I think you just get used to it if you read manga and notice how people call each other, so sorry if this long thing just ended up confusing you.
Senpai is usually said when addressing upperclassmen or people who are your seniors in work. So like a ninth grader would call a tenth grader senpai.
I know what doujinshi is, but I have the feeling if I tried to explain I'd mess it all up and get you even more confused. Um...something like a fanwork of a manga...or somethnig like that...
Yaoi is an acronym made from yama nashi, ochi nashi, imi nashi which means no climax, no punch-line no meaning (definition courtesty of wikipedia). It is very similar to shounen ai, but more...er...graphic, I guess you could say. Like I said wikipedia has the definition and would do a much better job with it. (Check the def. for doujinshi there also.)
And shotakon...er I guess you could say is an attraction to underage boys...(once again wikipedia might be a better explanation)
Gah, long post, long post. Sorry, I'm not sure if I actually helped or confused you. If I did confuse you, I'm sure there are other members who will be able to help you better than me or er...look it up on the web? And hopefully someone will correct me if I'm wrong on something.
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Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 11:11 pm
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Rei Kazeko I'm not all too familiar with Japanese myself, but I might be able to answer some of your questions... san, kun, chan, and sama are suffixes that are supposed to be added at the end of a name, unless the one addressing the person is a close friend. In that case, no suffix is used. Usually san is used for people you don't know well, higher-ups, stuff like that, a polite suffix I guess. Kun is usually used for boys around teenage age (although san is also used, likewise for girls). I'm not quite sure if anyone can use it, but I think so... Chan is usually used for children, highschool girls, and is sometimes said with a guy's name, but not usually. I think that's only if the person is close friends with the guy and it's a nickname or something. Sama is usually only used for extremely important people, an example would be like Kami-sama. I'm not quite sure how to explain these suffixes that well. I think you just get used to it if you read manga and notice how people call each other, so sorry if this long thing just ended up confusing you. Senpai is usually said when addressing upperclassmen or people who are your seniors in work. So like a ninth grader would call a tenth grader senpai. I know what doujinshi is, but I have the feeling if I tried to explain I'd mess it all up and get you even more confused. Um...something like a fanwork of a manga...or somethnig like that... Yaoi is an acronym made from yama nashi, ochi nashi, imi nashi which means no climax, no punch-line no meaning (definition courtesty of wikipedia). It is very similar to shounen ai, but more...er...graphic, I guess you could say. Like I said wikipedia has the definition and would do a much better job with it. (Check the def. for doujinshi there also.) And shotakon...er I guess you could say is an attraction to underage boys...(once again wikipedia might be a better explanation) Gah, long post, long post. Sorry, I'm not sure if I actually helped or confused you. If I did confuse you, I'm sure there are other members who will be able to help you better than me or er...look it up on the web? And hopefully someone will correct me if I'm wrong on something.
Yeah, that's pretty much it XD
Don't worry, YGO, we all learned it from somewhere...
only thing Id like to add is that yaoi is a bit of an outdated term...a lot of people in the fandom would be down your throat for throwing around the terms yaoi or shonen ai or just yaoi to denote the Boy's Love genre...
I guess these overarching terms are useful and convenient for gaijin like us XD, but Boy's Love or BL is the term du jour in Japan and of the fandom at the moment...BL encompasses a lot of subgenres...
Its really all personal preferance, ne...people still know what you're talking about if you just say yaoi...
Shotakon is the fetishized sexual attraction to young boys.
Derived from the common Japanese name for boys, Shotarou...and the word "complex" as in Shota-complex, shortened to "con" or "kon" because them Japanese are fond of their bastardized english...
It can be either an older woman or a man being attracted to said young boys.
It's popular use in the Boy's Love genre is to denote stories where one or both of the subjects are or look like pre-pubescent boys, slim, no build, big eyes, very feminine features.
Female equivalent, you may have seen around is Lolicon or Lolita Complex...from the Russian classic novel Lolita by Nabokov where the main character is sexually attracted to a little girl.
Doujinshi...are fan works, more or less. They are works (novels, manga, artbooks, etc) done by one or more people (known as doujin-ka or "circles") which generally use pre existing characters. They are often very professionally done and self published outside the regular publishing circuit. Some can be plain, low quality inks and papers, others can be lush with glossy, embossed covers and textured pages and color artwork...it runs the gamut.
Its actually quite a lucrative business, the chain store Mandarake in Japan specializes in doujinshi.
Methinks that the copyright laws in Japan are much more lax because there hasnt been any noise in my knowledge of any doujin-ka or doujinshi circles to have been persecuted for their work...I think its free publicizing...afterall, the doujin-ka are fans of a particular manga/novel/game/movie, etc to begin with and their readers are the same...
Or the people over there are just less sue-happy...
Popular manga/books and movies can have MASSIVE doujinshi circuits and followers.
Gundam Wing and FF7 for instance both have easily thousands and thousands of different doujinshi and artists dedicated to them. A majority of said doujinshi are BL ^_^;;
Yes...BL doujinshi has a very large following...I dont want to be so quick as to say that it makes up the most of doujinshi production and sales...but I do know anywhere that sells doujinshi always has BL doujinshi up in front and accessible...
Fangirls are a very big market!! |
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Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2005 9:41 am
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Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2005 11:25 am
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Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2005 9:14 pm
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Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2005 9:49 am
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Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2005 6:15 pm
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Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2005 10:27 am
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Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2005 3:00 pm
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YGOPaladin Sai-kun @YGO Its good to know that there are still fans who actually do research into their so called interest, ne? I agree, but my "interest" is slowly turning into an obsession.... But that's okay, it's more constructive then some of the stupid crap I did in high school. 3nodding
Its refreshing to see that newer fans to the fandom still do their own footwork for their hobbies instead of sitting there and babbling about which character is the hottest and who can kick who's a**.
Its ridiculous where the priorities of some of these fans lie. |
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