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Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 9:24 am
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Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 6:39 pm
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Well, stranger, the concept of T-Virus isn't fantasy, it's a lot more science fiction, because it's not impossible to believe it. I mean, if something can be explained without an extreme margin of improbability, then it's believable. Yes, Wesker coming back to life, or the Leech thing, yes, pretty damn farfetched. But not EVERYTHING in RE is that improbable. RE1, 2 and 3 are by far not fantasy.
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Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 1:26 am
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Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 12:15 pm
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Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 2:11 pm
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Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 4:14 pm
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Biohazard EXTREME Thee Stranger Ehhh... I don't know, man. I guess. But I could just as easily argue that Jill's mind control crystal is science fiction. Okay, then explain it scientifically, and make it believable. Simple. Read Jill's file in the Library section of RE5. But I guess you're not gonna do that, so:
Resident Evil Wiki Wesker then took Jill, and intended to use her as one of the first test subjects in his Uroboros Project. Placing her in cryogenic sleep, Wesker discovered an abnormality within Jill's body: a remnant of the t-virus infection from Raccoon City, which had been reactivated by the cryogenic stasis. As the virus disappeared, it left in its place powerful antibodies, which Wesker then used in order to help make the Uroboros less poisonous, thus giving human subjects a better chance of surviving infection. As a result of the antibody extraction, Jill's hair became a light blond color, and her skin became paler due to etoiliation. After using her to further his virus-development, Wesker then decided to use her as a potential super soldier. His method was to use "P30", a Progenitor-virus based chemical, which granted the user immense strength and speed, but also made them susceptible to control. While P30 had potential, it also lasted for only a short time, due to the body metabolizing it quickly. To remedy this, Wesker placed a mechanism on Jill's chest to release a steady stream of P30 into her, in order to keep her under his control.
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Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 4:59 pm
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Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 5:13 pm
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Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 5:23 pm
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Well, correct me if I'm wrong, but RE5 had some version of El Gigante in it, right? That's just bullshit fantasy. There's a difference between fiction and fantasy. Science fiction has rules, that's the key. Rules that are established and then followed by the creators. Like... Take Metal Gear Solid and what you know about it. Kojima established the artificial universe and worked within those rules. Imagine if in MGS4, he brought in a UFO with little green men with big brains and laser guns, who you have to fight against. That'd be going outside the established artificial universe. It's science fictiony, but since you're not following the rules you made, it would make the story seem like fantasy. When you have absolutely no boundaries, and keep tacking on and tacking on and tacking on, like RE has been doing, it stops being science fiction, and becomes fantasy. What's worse, they're catering it for idiots, having the most oversimplified explanations for everything, with no more than 5 minutes of thought put in.
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Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 3:52 am
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Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 10:07 am
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Ok I'm going to say a few things that might seem a bit stupid, but it makes sense. Ok it's mentioned in the file about Jill and all that crap, but what it doesn't metnion is how "Wesker" has the ability to control Jill. Sure she has that crystal thingy, but and the chemicals, but he would need a device to literally control her right? from what I've seen in the previews, and also based off of what everyone one has said, there is no such device. Same goes for RE4. Saddler has some how controls them, but doesn't scientifically explain how. There fore it is fantasy, why? because the only way someone can be controlled to such a degree is by magic! Also I highly doubt that Hypnosis would work on mindless and wild beings.
Where as RE3 and the other RE, the zombies and other creatures are uncontrolable. why? because in science fiction you can't use a chemical to control the person's mind if their minds are basically close to dead and are thinking of nothign but killing and eating raw flesh and such. That's all they think about. If you watch a good sci-fi you'll learn most of the time their own inventions or what not that are made to be controlled turn agianst the creator, or soemthign simliar happens. However, in fantasy you can have complete control over a person's mind. Why? Again it's magic! that's ll they can explain is that they're using magic because magic works. There is no scientific explination. Again, mind control can only happen with magic.
so untill there is a file or a scene that explains scientifically how he can control Jill with out a device my Hypothesis still remains. RE4 and RE5 are Fasntasy, since the other REs follow the sci-fi guide line, and RE4 and 5 don't.
Does it make you a noob if you think RE5 is an action game?
Edit: Oh and Bio you're wrong They didn't put 5 minutes thought into, they put in no thought into the game. They're stupid enough to cater to noobs. That means they hve no brain at all.
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Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 3:51 pm
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Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 3:52 pm
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Canas Renvall Vice Captain
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Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 4:08 pm
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Canas, there's a BIG, BIG, BIG difference between, "Changing a creature's behavior" or "compelling it to seek out a body of water and commit suicide" and, "Making a creature do your bidding like it's a little puppet." Not only that, but let's say you got a mind controlling parasite in you, that... Compels you to kill yourself, or... Let's say it compels you to start killing... Elephants. For whatever reason. Where does the part where "a crazy guy in an ugly robe with a sound emitting staff" or "a lion tamer in shades" start controlling that person's every action and decision, come in? That's like saying, "I have a laser pointer, so those laser guns in that sci-fi movie are completely realistic."
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