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[miigiro]

Mew back to you as well. biggrin  

[Koiyuki]

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Koiyuki

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Koiyuki

Well graphics designing isn't exactly a popular profession.

lol what?
everyone and their dog is a "Graphic designer" nowadays.

Like, seriously? I thought everyone wanted to sing these days.

maybe. but everyone with a stolen copy of photoshop nowadays is apparently a designer. confused

Psh. I think you can only call yourself a designer, when people start payin', for your stuff, and your time. I must say, though, pro designers have some spiffy workplaces. I went to one that's near the local mall, and the place has a friggin' mini waterfall in the main lobby.  

[.+Destiny.Eclipsed+.]

Koiyuki

ningyou-kun

Koiyuki

ningyou-kun

Koiyuki

Well graphics designing isn't exactly a popular profession.

lol what?
everyone and their dog is a "Graphic designer" nowadays.

Like, seriously? I thought everyone wanted to sing these days.

maybe. but everyone with a stolen copy of photoshop nowadays is apparently a designer. confused

Psh. I think you can only call yourself a designer, when people start payin', for your stuff, and your time. I must say, though, pro designers have some spiffy workplaces. I went to one that's near the local mall, and the place has a friggin' mini waterfall in the main lobby.

The one I had a job shadow at wasn't very spiffy. There was a pretty small front desk area, and all the offices were cramped together, at least on the bottom floor. The top floor had a pair of offices conectedin such a way that you had to go through one to get to the other, and the rest was an idea/storage area.

The people were awesome though. And they had toys. Including a mini rubber chicken shooter. xd  

[godoftherain]

Koiyuki

ningyou-kun

Koiyuki

ningyou-kun

Koiyuki

Well graphics designing isn't exactly a popular profession.

lol what?
everyone and their dog is a "Graphic designer" nowadays.

Like, seriously? I thought everyone wanted to sing these days.

maybe. but everyone with a stolen copy of photoshop nowadays is apparently a designer. confused

Psh. I think you can only call yourself a designer, when people start payin', for your stuff, and your time. I must say, though, pro designers have some spiffy workplaces. I went to one that's near the local mall, and the place has a friggin' mini waterfall in the main lobby.

I disagree. People don't know much about design at all, and they will hire people who don't know a clue about design, like how a logo is supposed to actually work at small sizes with legible text, and it should be a vector and reduce simply to black and white so it can be faxed and photocopied.
Or, even worse, they'll hire a chop-shop online and buy a stolen logo.
Are those people designers? they have people paying for it, but the work is ugly and it doesn't actually work in application.
clients are usually kind of clueless.  

[Koiyuki]

ningyou-kun

Koiyuki

ningyou-kun

Koiyuki

ningyou-kun

Koiyuki

Well graphics designing isn't exactly a popular profession.

lol what?
everyone and their dog is a "Graphic designer" nowadays.

Like, seriously? I thought everyone wanted to sing these days.

maybe. but everyone with a stolen copy of photoshop nowadays is apparently a designer. confused

Psh. I think you can only call yourself a designer, when people start payin', for your stuff, and your time. I must say, though, pro designers have some spiffy workplaces. I went to one that's near the local mall, and the place has a friggin' mini waterfall in the main lobby.

I disagree. People don't know much about design at all, and they will hire people who don't know a clue about design, like how a logo is supposed to actually work at small sizes with legible text, and it should be a vector and reduce simply to black and white so it can be faxed and photocopied.
Or, even worse, they'll hire a chop-shop online and buy a stolen logo.
Are those people designers? they have people paying for it, but the work is ugly and it doesn't actually work in application.
clients are usually kind of clueless.

Hmm, yes, there is that. Many people are out there passing themselves off as designers, and preying on the naivety of their clients. I must ask, though. In your eyes, when is it justified to call a designer, a designer?  

[godoftherain]

Koiyuki

ningyou-kun

Koiyuki

ningyou-kun

Koiyuki

Like, seriously? I thought everyone wanted to sing these days.

maybe. but everyone with a stolen copy of photoshop nowadays is apparently a designer. confused

Psh. I think you can only call yourself a designer, when people start payin', for your stuff, and your time. I must say, though, pro designers have some spiffy workplaces. I went to one that's near the local mall, and the place has a friggin' mini waterfall in the main lobby.

I disagree. People don't know much about design at all, and they will hire people who don't know a clue about design, like how a logo is supposed to actually work at small sizes with legible text, and it should be a vector and reduce simply to black and white so it can be faxed and photocopied.
Or, even worse, they'll hire a chop-shop online and buy a stolen logo.
Are those people designers? they have people paying for it, but the work is ugly and it doesn't actually work in application.
clients are usually kind of clueless.

Hmm, yes, there is that. Many people are out there passing themselves off as designers, and preying on the naivety of their clients. I must ask, though. In your eyes, when is it justified to call a designer, a designer?

Well, on the rawest level everyone is a designer as everyone makes things.
A professional would understand the technical standards including press and preproduction, the artistic and compositional issues of design, the industry standard tools, and issues unique to their craft, such as typography. Knowing these alone, you could probably be a good desktop publisher or diploma/certificate student, which is suitable, but ends up being a bit of a limiting understanding of design. Professional yes, but missing part of the picture.
I feel that a large part of a professional designer should understand the abstract scope of their own cultural power.
Professional design is also a methodology involving the manufacturing of culture, and a designer would know how to conduct research to express the visual paradigms and semiotical rhetoric required by their client, as well as making a functional piece of work.


I've worked with people who got design certificates 20 or 30 years ago, and they're now working in the field. (and have been for that time prior.) however, they lack that background of theory, and although they make OK things, when it comes to pushing and innovating and the cultural part, they often just do what the client says and leave it at that.
The biggest and best design firms, like Pentagram and Ideo use design methodology and research to innovate.  

[SilverVixen]

Oh no! The Random Chat Thread has turned not-so-random. I never saw that coming!! I say let's make a discussion thread out of this topic!!

Edit: Topic now in the main forum! With poll! smile  

[godoftherain]

SilverVixen

Oh no! The Random Chat Thread has turned not-so-random. I never saw that coming!! I say let's make a discussion thread out of this topic!!

Edit: Topic now in the main forum! With poll! smile

sorry!  

[SilverVixen]

ningyou-kun

SilverVixen

Oh no! The Random Chat Thread has turned not-so-random. I never saw that coming!! I say let's make a discussion thread out of this topic!!

Edit: Topic now in the main forum! With poll! smile

sorry!

Haha, no problem at all. smile  

[Koiyuki]

SilverVixen

ningyou-kun

SilverVixen

Oh no! The Random Chat Thread has turned not-so-random. I never saw that coming!! I say let's make a discussion thread out of this topic!!

Edit: Topic now in the main forum! With poll! smile

sorry!

Haha, no problem at all. smile

I think it's a good thing, for people here who are considering being designers on a higher level. It helps bring to light new concepts and ways of thinking.

On a random note, I bought a magazine on Photoshop today @ Borders. $15 for it, but it's well worth the price, for all the insight it offers, along with the 150+ brushes it comes with. And despite only being sold it England, it somehow made it onto their newsstands. Would anyone like to see scans from the mag in question?  

[.+Destiny.Eclipsed+.]

Koiyuki

I think it's a good thing, for people here who are considering being designers on a higher level. It helps bring to light new concepts and ways of thinking.

On a random note, I bought a magazine on Photoshop today @ Borders. $15 for it, but it's well worth the price, for all the insight it offers, along with the 150+ brushes it comes with. And despite only being sold it England, it somehow made it onto their newsstands. Would anyone like to see scans from the mag in question?

I don't see why not. Seeing a bit could be interesting.  

[Koiyuki]

For some reason, the whole thing couldn't fit in the scanner. D:

Tell me which features you wanna see first, then I'll scan the appropriate pages.  

[.+Destiny.Eclipsed+.]

Dunno, my computer didn't much like just that one. xp Dial-up is evil...


But, something somewhat random for the thread ment for randomness - I have a sore throat, and sound horrible. Through the day it has been compared to a parrot, some sort of mechanical bird, grinding gears, a dying/wounded dog, and a donkey being raped by an elephant.

Bwaha.  

[GhoSt-X]

lol happy days=P