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Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 10:23 am
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Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 2:31 pm
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Lee Retalis Lunar Falcon Lee Retalis The carnivorous animals are just that. Carnivores. They absolutely CANNOT survive on plant matter. Their bodies are unable to digest it. They have no choice. But there are just as many omnivores who can and will eat meat at any opportunity. Bears, dogs, pigs, primates, to name a few. And in my earlier post I also gave an article on carnivorous deer. I don't believe they really understand how to be any other way. Besides, if I'm not going to try and force other people to follow my morals, why would I force other animals? This is simply what I believe. Should we eat other animals because the carnivores/omnivores do it? Why is that a valid reason to do anything? It's almost like the "natural" arguement. Various animals have been known to eat their young on occasion, kill eachother over territory, etc. Should we do all that stuff, too? We do, actually. Well... except the eat our young bit. Most of us don't do that. But we do kill each other over territory. It's called 'war'.
Xiporah I like baby cows. I've bottle fed and petted them. They're cute.
They also taste absolutely fabulous with Parmesan. That's pretty much amazing. /sigged
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Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 3:28 pm
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Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 9:44 pm
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Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 6:39 pm
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I'm going to become a vegatarian when I get a real job in the real world. My reasons are pretty simple. 1) Like you don't enjoy the idea of animals dying just because I like they way they taste when I have other options. Now, I know I know, it's natural to eat meat, and blah blah blah, but I'm just to sympathetic to pain and suffering to get past it, animals also throw s**t, rape, kill each other, and have sex with their family. I think it's safe to say that just because it happens in nature doesn't mean we should all do it. 2) Because I feel that one can reach better level of health without meat. And 3) ...... I just listing things in three. sweatdrop The only reason why I'm not one now, is because I'm poor. Meat is cheap and abundant, so until my career begins, it's MacDonalds for me. sad
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Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2007 9:28 pm
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Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 9:16 am
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Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 8:55 pm
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Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 9:23 pm
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MiniMink some people might have already said this, but in case they haven't then I'm going to piss off ALOT of people. BUT, I don't think that you should become vegetarian, if you just think that killing cows is a bad thing. What about all of the processed vegetables and fruits? A song called Disgustipated by Tool, made me realize that that carrot your eating at your computer had a life. The chorus of that song said "Life feeds on life feeds on life..." Just think about that before you make your decision. wink Unfortunately, scientists haven't made food out of rocks yet, so we'll just have to live by Maynard's words!
I agree that plants are alive, but they don't have brains nor feel pain. And in fact, most plants make fruit to be eaten. That's how they spread seeds. Animals don't want to be eaten. They spend every waking moment running from or defending themselves from being eaten. True, some plants do the same, but I'm pretty sure that those aren't the ones we eat. I mean, I get where you're comming from, but (forgive the pun) I tink you're comparing apple to oranges.
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Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 8:15 pm
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Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 9:03 am
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Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 1:06 pm
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Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 1:45 pm
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Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 8:57 pm
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Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 4:37 pm
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Yikes... I can see I'm gonna be an odd one out in this guild. Not that it's anything new...
I'm a vegetarian, and I have been for.... almost five years, now. I don't find it difficult and it suits me very well. I think it's made me eat slightly healthier, although, as someone already explained, being a vegetarian doesn't necessarily mean eating healthy.
I'm ashamed to admit it... but it was PETA that converted me with their flier. I've learned more about them now, and I'm disgusted that I was swayed by the, I've since learned that there are better reasons to be vegetarian than PETA's gory emotional appeals and that it's better to live my life as I choose and let others lives theirs. (ie: Don't shove your morals down other peoples' throats.)
JadeDragonSoul As Zambimaru said, eating meat is a natural part of life. There is nothing wrong with eating what our bodies need. You say that there is no need, but in what sense? Meat is an integral part of the human diet. Sure, it sounds fancy and makes you look intellectual, but there will always be another person to eat the meat you don't!
Your fallacy. Let me show you it.
You've just made the Naturalistic Fallacy.
Just because something is natural does not make it right, or better. Furthermore, "natural" is debatable.
Les Adieux ...I have been sick with a fever for the past two days, but I don't particularly feel bad. My only guess is that it is from protein loss, as I can't have it in every meal, especially at school. I've been very tired, and I've fallen asleep in class....
You might have gotten sick because you didn't eat meat, but there might have been another cause.
However... if you feel that becoming a vegetarian is too complicated and that it's just not right for you right now, don't do it.
Xiporah The way I look at it is...if I wanted to feel morally obligated to live my life a certain way, I'd be christian.
You can feel morally obligated to live a certain way without being a Christian. You can even feel that way without any religion at all, as members of this guild know. I feel morally obligated to behave in all kinds of ways because I care about the well being of others.
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