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Darth Ghranna Vice Captain
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 Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 4:46 pm
Shattered Priest Yoda. Because he shows that being the grandfather of Kermit the Frog does in fact make him more awesome than the rest of the cast. false, yoda is a coward who runs to dagoba to hide in his shame
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Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 6:35 pm
Darth Ghranna Shattered Priest Yoda. Because he shows that being the grandfather of Kermit the Frog does in fact make him more awesome than the rest of the cast. false, yoda is a coward who runs to dagoba to hide in his shame Yoda spent so much time teaching younglings, that while yes he was perhaps more knowledgeable in the Force, he was less adept at using it in real life or combat scenarios, which is why he lost to a cackling old man. Not only did he lose, he got his butt whooped! I mean grand ol' smack down! Even Mace Windu, who was one of the greatest swordsmen of all time (because of his invention of the Vapaad variation of Form VII) couldn't beat Palpatine. So I would say, all-in-all, yes the Jedi order had become weak during the clone wars.
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Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 6:52 pm
When it comes to deciding if the Jedi are superior to the Sith look at this: The original race of Force Practitioners were more or less Jedi. They didn't nessisarally have a code that they followed but they inadvertently followed the ways of the Jedi.
Force heal is a Jedi ability
Force Mind Trick is also a Jedi ability.
Keep in mind that the Jedi are also the ones who discovered the ability to live through the Force, as you see Obi-Wan, Yoda and eventually Anakin himself do. It was discovered by Qui-Gon Jinn. Even Palpatine didn't figure that out. Yeah Plagus discovered how to prevent death for a period of time, and even create life, but he couldn't essentially come back from the dead.
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Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 7:04 pm
Raage_Torgen When it comes to deciding if the Jedi are superior to the Sith look at this: The original race of Force Practitioners were more or less Jedi. They didn't nessisarally have a code that they followed but they inadvertently followed the ways of the Jedi. Force heal is a Jedi ability Force Mind Trick is also a Jedi ability. Keep in mind that the Jedi are also the ones who discovered the ability to live through the Force, as you see Obi-Wan, Yoda and eventually Anakin himself do. It was discovered by Qui-Gon Jinn. Even Palpatine didn't figure that out. Yeah Plagus discovered how to prevent death for a period of time, and even create life, but he couldn't essentially come back from the dead. what of spirit transfer? Revan used that, I would say it is better to have a physical form, than to be naught but a shade.
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Darth Ghranna Vice Captain
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Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 7:15 pm
Darth_Malice_66 Yoda spent so much time teaching younglings, that while yes he was perhaps more knowledgeable in the Force, he was less adept at using it in real life or combat scenarios, which is why he lost to a cackling old man. Not only did he lose, he got his butt whooped! I mean grand ol' smack down! Even Mace Windu, who was one of the greatest swordsmen of all time (because of his invention of the Vapaad variation of Form VII) couldn't beat Palpatine. So I would say, all-in-all, yes the Jedi order had become weak during the clone wars. Mace Windu fell due to the betrayal of Anakin. Had Anakin not fallen, your Emperor would have been defeated, and of course, a new evil taken it's place. Most of the Jedi during the great wars fell due to betrayal. Master Ki Adi Mundi fell to to overwhelming blaster fire from those that served him, as did many others.
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Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 7:37 pm
Darth Ghranna Raage_Torgen When it comes to deciding if the Jedi are superior to the Sith look at this: The original race of Force Practitioners were more or less Jedi. They didn't nessisarally have a code that they followed but they inadvertently followed the ways of the Jedi. Force heal is a Jedi ability Force Mind Trick is also a Jedi ability. Keep in mind that the Jedi are also the ones who discovered the ability to live through the Force, as you see Obi-Wan, Yoda and eventually Anakin himself do. It was discovered by Qui-Gon Jinn. Even Palpatine didn't figure that out. Yeah Plagus discovered how to prevent death for a period of time, and even create life, but he couldn't essentially come back from the dead. what of spirit transfer? Revan used that, I would say it is better to have a physical form, than to be naught but a shade. Yes, but also remember that Darth Revan turned back to the Jedi, and was eventually defeated by Darth Malak, thus proving the point that Sith's always betray one another.. it's just a matter of time, and a question of when.
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Darth Ghranna Vice Captain
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Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 7:41 pm
Raage_Torgen Darth Ghranna Raage_Torgen When it comes to deciding if the Jedi are superior to the Sith look at this: The original race of Force Practitioners were more or less Jedi. They didn't nessisarally have a code that they followed but they inadvertently followed the ways of the Jedi. Force heal is a Jedi ability Force Mind Trick is also a Jedi ability. Keep in mind that the Jedi are also the ones who discovered the ability to live through the Force, as you see Obi-Wan, Yoda and eventually Anakin himself do. It was discovered by Qui-Gon Jinn. Even Palpatine didn't figure that out. Yeah Plagus discovered how to prevent death for a period of time, and even create life, but he couldn't essentially come back from the dead. what of spirit transfer? Revan used that, I would say it is better to have a physical form, than to be naught but a shade. Yes, but also remember that Darth Revan turned back to the Jedi, and was eventually defeated by Darth Malak, thus proving the point that Sith's always betray one another.. it's just a matter of time, and a question of when. survival of the fitest it is the law of nature. Sentient beings clawed their way to they top but if we do not fight we will lose our precarious perch. Protecting the weak from the end result of their own stupidity is suicide. That which is unable to defend itself is unworthy of survival.
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Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 7:44 pm
Da Canuck Darth_Malice_66 Yoda spent so much time teaching younglings, that while yes he was perhaps more knowledgeable in the Force, he was less adept at using it in real life or combat scenarios, which is why he lost to a cackling old man. Not only did he lose, he got his butt whooped! I mean grand ol' smack down! Even Mace Windu, who was one of the greatest swordsmen of all time (because of his invention of the Vapaad variation of Form VII) couldn't beat Palpatine. So I would say, all-in-all, yes the Jedi order had become weak during the clone wars. Mace Windu fell due to the betrayal of Anakin. Had Anakin not fallen, your Emperor would have been defeated, and of course, a new evil taken it's place. Most of the Jedi during the great wars fell due to betrayal. Master Ki Adi Mundi fell to to overwhelming blaster fire from those that served him, as did many others. yes, but there's another point of view (remember what Obi-Wan said in Ep. VI- "Luke you're going to find that a lot of the truths we cling to, depend greatly on our own point of view...") The other point of view is simply this: Yes, Anakin betrayed the Jedi and fell to the Dark Side, but if the Jedi had taken a moment to think out ALL possible angles to the way this prophecy could have been read, then they would have figured this out. ALSO! They said that Anakin was to do the following: Defeat the Sith and Bring Balance to the Force. Ok, first off, who said it had to be in that order? And second of all he DID bring balance to the Force, there were Two Siths (Palpatine and Darth Vader) and two Jedi (Obi-Wan, and yoda ((replaced by Luke when Yoda died))). Then when he destroyed Palpatine (the first time) on the 2nd Death Star, he also destroyed himself, thus deafeating the Sith completely. He didn't know that Palpatine would do the Essence Transfer and transfer himself into a clone. According to Star Wars film Cannon Anakin did what he was supposed to do, the jedi were just to full of themselves and dogmatic that they couldn't see the way things would really play out. They'd blinded themselves to the truth by thinking they were so awesome.
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Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 8:55 pm
Darth_Malice_66 yes, but there's another point of view (remember what Obi-Wan said in Ep. VI- "Luke you're going to find that a lot of the truths we cling to, depend greatly on our own point of view...") The other point of view is simply this: Yes, Anakin betrayed the Jedi and fell to the Dark Side, but if the Jedi had taken a moment to think out ALL possible angles to the way this prophecy could have been read, then they would have figured this out. ALSO! They said that Anakin was to do the following: Defeat the Sith and Bring Balance to the Force. Ok, first off, who said it had to be in that order? And second of all he DID bring balance to the Force, there were Two Siths (Palpatine and Darth Vader) and two Jedi (Obi-Wan, and yoda ((replaced by Luke when Yoda died))). Then when he destroyed Palpatine (the first time) on the 2nd Death Star, he also destroyed himself, thus deafeating the Sith completely. He didn't know that Palpatine would do the Essence Transfer and transfer himself into a clone. According to Star Wars film Cannon Anakin did what he was supposed to do, the jedi were just to full of themselves and dogmatic that they couldn't see the way things would really play out. They'd blinded themselves to the truth by thinking they were so awesome. I do not recall many Jedi taking on such arrogance, it is against their code, is it not? And balance is essential to the Force, yes, I never said it wasn't. In fact, looking back on it, you have actually sparked quite an interesting notion in me, and a point of view I never took. It has been a while since I have been this interested in Star Wars or had the time to be. Anakin did bring balance due to the Jedi numbers over-whelming the Sith. Very interesting, thank you for that. However, for the interest of this forum, I am afraid that I will defend the light for the Jedi are outnumbered here. "In the absence of light, darkness prevails."
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Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 7:47 am
Or Darkness just prevails period. I mean check it out; the "BLACK hole" is so powerful that it sucks up and consumes everything, including light. Plus, what is the most mysterious thing in the universe? DARK matter! That's right we have no clue what it is! So Darkness wins out!
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Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 2:09 pm
Darth_Malice_66 Or Darkness just prevails period. I mean check it out; the "BLACK hole" is so powerful that it sucks up and consumes everything, including light. Plus, what is the most mysterious thing in the universe? DARK matter! That's right we have no clue what it is! So Darkness wins out! But without light, what is darkness? It needs contrast, as does everything else. If you were happy all the time, you'd never realize it because you have never felt sadness. It is essential to have both. And nothing may not be able to escape the black hole, but life comes from light. The most mysterious thing in the universe is subjective to whoever you ask. One might find human nature on an individual level mysterious, not knowing what a person might do. Some people find the origin of life mysterious due to the elusive nature of the subject and not knowing exactly for sure how this all came to be. Is a certain religion right? Are they wrong? Was it an alien named Doug? So far we don't know. Mystery can actually be created out of nothing. "I have something behind my back, it's for you, but you have to guess what it is." Each guess would eliminate a possibility that was prominent at the time, and the elusivness of the atmosphere would be enough to make them wonder. Darkness is also runs and hides. Want me to prove it? Go into a dark room. Now turn on the light. Where'd the darkness go? OH! Under the chair! Under the bed! XP
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Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 8:22 pm
I am almost done with the Dark Lord book. I am rather enjoying it, although Anakin's whineyness is rather annoying, but I can not get enough of how the emperor tortures him. Plus anything that involves sacking a Jedi temple is always good!
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Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 11:44 am
I'm working through Force Unleashed 2 (the book) and it's good.
Also, I have Dynasty of Evil for you eventually!
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Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 6:21 pm
The Republic Commando series was pretty good, and I do enjoy playing the Star Wars RPG game (published by Wizards of the Coast).
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Darth Ghranna Vice Captain
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Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 6:31 pm
Darth_Malice_66 I'm working through Force Unleashed 2 (the book) and it's good. Also, I have Dynasty of Evil for you eventually!
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