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PostPosted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 7:28 am


Well getting into the extreme of canoes than I probably am fine on them as well, granted I don't think I can read and canoe at the same time so I've never been able to test that, kayaking, or rafting (the latter of which runs the risk of tossing you and your books into the river frequently) out. However boats and planes (and sometimes cars) make me dizzy without reading. I can take motion sickness medicine and be instantly dandy, but not to the point that I can read. Planes and boats bother me the most, I think boats because they move the most and planes because of altitude changes. Trains usually follow, probably because they have limited amounts of fresh air flowing through them. Cars opening a window (in the rare instance a car ride is upsetting me) is usually enough to get me by. Also I never get carsick while driving, which my mom mentions that most people don't, I find that interesting. I guess it's partially related to the fact your eyes wander less, because you have to concentrate? But idk. Maybe if I flew a plane I'd feel fine, but then I also would probably be too busy to read, though I did try to read during rush hour once when I was only moving a few inches every couple of minutes. xd

The bus was free so I won't complain it only ran once an hour, but I wish it ran more than that. The buses within the city of Davis run twice an hour, but the Yolo County buses that run Woodland-Davis-Sacramento only run once an hour. Once I moved out of Woodland and into Davis I barely ever took the bus anyhow. I preferred biking and the upside was I could pretty much bike up to the door of my classroom, so I could literally leave at the last minute.
PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 2:01 am


Hm, never been on a train unless you count a subway, and I was fine on that too. Fresh air helps me when I'm carsick, but I think what's the worst about cars for me is how cramped they are; you're in a small space with heat coming in and little breathing room, and then there's just something about their smell that triggers me too. Although I've never gotten carsick while driving either. Interesting.

Haha, well my bus is free too, so I shouldn't complain, but then I just think that it's a bus for my school, which I'm paying far more for than I would just a bus ride. So then I feel like I actually am paying for it and don't feel so guilty. XD

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 6:01 am


See smell is what bothers me about most forms of public transportation. Subways as far as I know only use trains, so yea that still counts. I think most people couldn't say they'd been on a train if you didn't count subways, railways aren't quite what they were in the 1800s anymore. Plus I don't mind sitting by most of my friends (though I'm very rarely on a car trip where I have to actually sit next to someone, I'm either driving, shotgun, or there are 4 or less in the car), but I hate being pressed against strangers when public transportation is crowded, blech.

Yea the buses were free for students, however I don't think tuition would have gone down just because they decided to stop paying for the buses (I think the city of Davis buses, Unitrans, were sorta owned by the school. They were definitely all driven by students) so I'll still think of it as free.
PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 11:41 pm


True, though there's a lot of train tracks near my house, so I kind of feel like I should have ridden one by now. I hear trains almost ever day, but then again they're not passenger trains. XD But anyway, on the bus for school I'm always cramped with other people, and I hate that.

Hm, I agree that I don't think tuition would go down, but fees possibly would. I pay a bunch of fees for all the benefits at school every semester, and since I don't use most of them, like the recreation center and such, I consider it the bus as my part of the payment. XD

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 5:18 am


Yea most people wouldn't be going for a ride on a freight train. Trains that are actually used for distance commutes aren't bad. But because trains aren't fuel efficient at this point and aren't really much faster than driving (just more direct and don't have to deal with traffic, so you don't have to plan your train journey to avoid rush hour) they are falling into decline, especially in the states. In the UK many people don't drive, or even if they do prefer not to drive (as much as America is complaining they actually have the lower end of fuel prices still in comparison to the rest of the world). So trains are a bigger commodity here.

Oh we don't have things split out into "fees" and "tuition," everything is just tuition. And paying your tuition entitles you to things like the pools, recreation center, buses for free. It also goes into student government who funds things like the Coho which is a food place (coffee place, sandwich place, pizza place, pho place, etc), and it sells really good food really cheap (at least back in the day when I was there before the economy crashed and education started suffering for it). Things like counseling, women's health center, concessions on theatre, etc were also part of that. So we did get a lot for our tuition, I did really like UCD for those reasons. I know the buses are still free, and I believe the ARC and pools are, but what standards everything else is at as of current I couldn't say.
PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 9:44 pm


Yeah, I wish the US was better with transportation. Trains are so huge in so many other countries.

Yeah, somehow I have a feeling my school charges the same tuition as your school (or at least similar), but tacks on all the fees as extra charges rather than including them in tuition, so they get more out of us. I remember when the economy first shot, suddenly instead of a couple basic fees and my class ones, I had fees for every bullshit thing the school could come up with. And we have a Memorial Union that's for getting food, but it's more expensive than typical places.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 7:52 am


Yea, although England is currently having all these strikes, and they do every so often. And they don't do anything if you end up cut off from transportation, they cancel trains and you are just on your own. France had strikes awhile ago too. So the rest of the world has better systems for mass transportation, when the labor force is in accordance. When it's not you are kinda screwed. When I came back from Kitacon I was able to catch a train from the convention centre to city centre, but not from city centre back to university. So we had to take a cab, and cabs are much more expensive. But this is why the railway workers can strike, because we need them and there is nothing we can do about it. Although it's probably going to inspire someone to push towards removing the driver component from the system. Which would cut thousands of jobs, but if the jobs aren't coming off efficiently...well basically transportation is a nightmare everywhere. Just the US probably has a heavier carbon footprint in regards.

I don't know where tuition is now, it was $3000 something a quarter when I left 3 years ago (and I know they've gone up), so about $10-$12000 a year (more if you take summer classes). However the only thing that is a separate fee (or was) is the school health insurance, SHIP. However I was covered by my parents insurance so I didn't have to have that (you did have to have proof of insurance and if you didn't you were enrolled in SHIP whether you wanted it or not, which kinda sucks as they weren't the greatest health care package). I think now tuition is probably closer to $4000 if not over at UCD. We had multiple food places, CoHo was just cheapest. I worked at Silo which was the most expensive (it had Sodexo packaged stuff, as well as Pizza Hut, Taco Bell, Carls Junior, a crepe place and a sandwich and coffee place called Brennans but it served Starbucks coffee), but because I could get it all for free pretty much it's where I ate most often. There was also the pub, which was probably the best food on campus, and comparatively good prices though not cheap. However campus is right next to downtown, so you also have the option of about 100 or so restaurants, coffee houses, cafes, etc etc within 5 minutes of campus pretty much.
PostPosted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 10:06 pm


Yikes, well every country does have their disadvantages. Transportation, ugh. XP

I think ours is around $4000 now, and it's going up again the coming fall. So even though my scholarship covers the original $2500 that tuition was per semester, I still have to pay the extra $1500. Fffff.

And the Memorial Union has a pita place, a Mexican place, Starbucks, Burger King, Papa John's, Chick Fill-et, a big buffet area, a Chinese place, a small market, an ice cream place, a sushi place, a place that sells sandwiches and fruits and vegetables and such, a Taco Bell, a Quiznos', a Jamba Juice, and a nicer restaurant that serves vegetarianish food. On campus there's also some dining areas in some of the dorm areas, a hot dog place, another vegetarianish place, and a cafe. Then right by the college is Mill Ave., which is essentially just a crowded street that's more for walking/going to restaurants and shops than driving, so there's a lot of options there as well, though the only chain places there are a Jack 'n the Box and Jimmy John's.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 5:34 am


So yours is $8000 a year? Yea your tuition is lower than what UCD (and the UC system) is then, because they are around $4000 a quarter, which means $12000 a year. So they better not tack on any extra fees.

Actually where are CoHo was was called Memorial Union as well, MU was campus owned, Silo was run by the private vendor Sodexo. We had a Farmers Market as well, but only twice a week (and only one of those times was it directly on campus - though the next to campus selection was much larger, on campus was mainly just fruits and veggies and sometimes flowers). I like it here at UoB where we have a Farmers Market that runs like 9am - 6pm (though I think it's reduced over break but it's still here!) Monday through Friday. So while the on campus food options are less, one of my best grocery options is at least right here. I think I prefer Carls Jr to Burger King but it's crazy expensive. Taco Bells and Starbucks, on EVERY campus, haha. Ok in the UK it's Subway and Starbucks, but whatever.
PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 10:52 pm


I think so, yeah. Though now it should be more like 11K a year. Wow, that's pretty expensive though.

We have a Farmers' Market too; my friend just got cider there. And hah, I hate Carls Jr; it just makes me feel sick. XP Might have something to do with all those Pokemon toys they had back when, and I was too stupid to realized you could just buy toys alone, so kept getting kids' meals there until I got all the Pokemanz. I have never been able to touch Carls Jr. since.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 5:43 am


Yup, fees keep going up. One of the main reasons I don't want to put off my doctorate, it's not going to get any cheaper. I mean if putting it off means I have time to find and qualify for grants or other funding then that would be good. But if in the end I still never get any of that I'll regret not just taking out the loans now, and putting my life on hold for nothing.

I never even tried Carls until I got to college, b/c it's too expensive. And exempting one milkshake (man they have amazing milkshakes) I haven't had it since leaving the job that allowed me to get it for free. However I've never gotten a burger from them. I always got milkshakes, and if I got meals they were chicken. I may be a red meat eater, but their burgers kinda made me feel ill just looking at them. I wasn't really allowed to eat a lot of fast food as a child. The few times we went out it was to real restaurants, usually Thai. Which I'm fine with, I think up until I was 14 I think I'd only ever had McDonalds twice in my life, and one of those times was a field trip. xd HS marching band ruined everything, but I pretty much gave up a lot of fast food after graduating HS. Even working at Silo I rarely got stuff at Carls, Taco Bell or my own unit. And I almost never eat it now.
PostPosted: Sun May 01, 2011 12:07 am


Yeah, I understand.

Ugh, seriously, the burgers do look disgusting. I think I switched between burgers and chicken when I would get the kids meals, so both of those (and then especially the fries) just make me sick. I do remember the kids meals were actually super cheap compared to the other stuff though, which was why I could afford to get it enough to get all the toys.

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PostPosted: Sun May 01, 2011 4:27 pm


Yea Carls on campus obviously did not sell kids meals as we hardly had any children in there, so not sure the prices on those. But yea, mainly just <3 the milkshakes, especially a mint chocolate chip one they had for awhile (not sure if they still do). So good. xd
PostPosted: Sun May 01, 2011 11:23 pm


Hmm, maybe I should look into that then... mint chocolate chip is my favorite ice cream flavor, and I've been on a mission for years to find a good mint shake (tried Arbys, a couple restaurant ones, and then one at a place where they could make any flavor, and one at an ice cream place, and they all sucked, especially the Arbys). Always either too watery, not minty enough, not cold enough, or no chocolate chips. Boo.

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PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2011 11:11 am


Yea Carls uses really good ice cream and it's all thick and delicious. However I don't know if it's a standard flavor they have so you might not always be able to find it, can't really recall.
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