The OOC Hangout Thread (New people introduce yourself here!)

[Mirouni]

lol, fire.. it amuses me.

However, strictly speaking, fire we can live without. Water, is necessary.
*Blasts ball of fire*
I ain't playin' now Zahzi. I will soooo put a hole in you. twisted

EDIT> EDIT> EDIT>
Water actually can keep you warm... it's called a hot tub dude.  

[Zahzi]

~Sigh~ Unfortunately, I have to go to community service, now... crying  

[Mirouni]

*points*

I KNEW you were a delinquent! lol, j/p Zahz.  

[The Rogue Doll]

Yes, but the water has to be warmed somehow. If you are talking strictly in terms for the need of the elements then loss of fire would eliminate all heat sources including the sun! If the sun is gone then no heat to warm up the water will be the least of your worries.

I don't think any is needed more than the others. You need air so that the plants can live, the air also feeds the fire. The fire keeps everything alive and the water sustains it. The earth I guess is all the individual thingies. Which are not needed but if there were no earth (element) there would be no things at all.

Do I sound like enough of a hippie yet?  

[Mirouni]

The Rogue Doll

Yes, but the water has to be warmed somehow. If you are talking strictly in terms for the need of the elements then loss of fire would eliminate all heat sources including the sun! If the sun is gone then no heat to warm up the water will be the least of your worries.

I don't think any is needed more than the others. You need air so that the plants can live, the air also feeds the fire. The fire keeps everything alive and the water sustains it. The earth I guess is all the individual thingies. Which are not needed but if there were no earth (element) there would be no things at all.

Do I sound like enough of a hippie yet?

Muahahaha.
Yes, you are a hippie, as am I.
I am also a hippie with knowledge of physics and chemistry. Prepare yourself to be utterly BORED.

Heat in itself is in essence simply energy that is generated by molecules in motion. Meaning that when the electrons in a certain molecule start accelerating, then heat is created.
I break it down in physics, because it's easier for me..

To begin, I shall explain terms.
Q = heat energy. This is the total energy created by heat.
M = Mass of the object or substance in question.
/T (Delta T.) = change in temperature. (caused by the presence of heat. which is explained above.)
C = specific heat of a substance.

Formulas for heat look like this.

Q = M x C x /T.

heat energy = mass times specific heat times change in temp.

So, if the object is bigger, and has a high specific heat. Then it's energy will be much greater.

Gases increase in temperature with increases in volume and pressure. (The sun is a ball of gas.)

This is represented by.
P x V = NR x T.

Sooo... due to it's size, and by the pressure being placed on it by gravity, the sun reaches an extremely high temp, and combusts, thus creating both light and heat.

However.
Light is energy, pure and simple.
Heat is energy, pure and simple.
Fire, is a chemical reaction caused by high heat energy.

Thus.
Heat can exist without fire, therefore fire technically is not the element, heat is.
Loss of fire would not eliminate the sun. Loss of energy would. (As well as eliminate all life in general, so no one would really care about the sun.)

Also, fire is not necessary to all life.
What is necessary, is the vitamins and nutrients from the sun.
In other words. Sun does not equal fire.

Air does not feed fire. Air is empty space, Oxygen feeds fire, which produces carbon, which is needed for all life.
So in a way, fire can be useful. (Some species of pine trees require fire to grow.)
But in the same way, fire is not the true thing that is needed, but rather the elements (Chemical elements, such as carbon.)

Many plants do not require heat, and humans generate their own heat, so they do not require fire to live.

Also...
The EARTH is not an element, it is a planet.
Without earth, we would not exist. But many other things would.
All of the elements of chemistry would still exist, just not here.
Every star is a ball of burning gas, so fire exists without Earth.
etc.

As for one being needed more than the other...
Water makes up roughly 70% of the human body.
Water is needed for plants to grow. ALL plants. Fire is not.
Without water, we would not be alive
Without Oxygen, we would not be alive.
We can live without fire.

Case closed. Thank you for your time. ninja  

[Tanakietsu]

All of that is merely dependent on existing rules. Any of a huge varying amount of changes could easily change it so that water is poisonous. In fact, there are already several locations in the environment which show that water is in fact quite deadly given its average form.

*shrugs*

Science is great for supporting arguments. Proving points is quite impossible.  

[Trowa The Fearless]

Doll, if you are a hippie, you're the best one ever! 3nodding  

[Trowa The Fearless]

*stares at Neo's avatar* Ooh, pretty... heart  

[Mirouni]

Tana la Scrivana

All of that is merely dependent on existing rules. Any of a huge varying amount of changes could easily change it so that water is poisonous. In fact, there are already several locations in the environment which show that water is in fact quite deadly given its average form.

*shrugs*

Science is great for supporting arguments. Proving points is quite impossible.

Eh, mostly true.
For proving that fire is not an element. It pwns. 3nodding  

[Tanakietsu]

I live in a world of thoughts and words.

Science means nothing to me other than a source of ideas. I don't believe in truths, proofs, or facts. *shrugs*
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Anything can be contradicted in words. n_n  

[Derpzilla88]

White and gold do cause a certain "blinding" effect when looked at. At least, that's what it seems like to me.