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JuokasKurvas Vice Captain
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Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 10:44 pm
((Possibly, but at the same time because Jou is such a main character people are probably to busy pairing him off with Seto or Yuugi/Yami/both or Honda. They'd have to think about Jou and Rex and there might not be enough to motivate a lot of people to just think about it, even I never did until it randomly came up in this weird chat. Rex probably doesn't figure into most roleplays I'd think ^_~
And Karma, you wanted people to pick second characters so you wouldn't be the only one. Look at us roleplaying our second characters. So umm...whatever happened to ENDiety huh?!? razz ))
BlueEyesPlatinumChckAct: Hum...delayed layover, how irritating. At least there's ranting in here to entertain me. *smirk*
I think your grammar/spelling gets even more atrocious when you are angry dog, which is wonderful, I love that my presence can have such an effect on people. You can't expect me to believe your criticism when you are so subjective to my words and actions mutt.
Last I checked though, the elderly aren't worth much, but glad to see that loyalty is one of your more marketable traits. Nobody wants a treacherous pet. *sneer*
dinOmite: heh heh, you'd better learn to control yourself and keep your hands off me DOG, heh heh. You might get a bigger surprise than you can handle, heh heh.
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Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 5:38 pm
((Oh ho ho! Hehe...I'm getting to it! Its ganna be completely out of character 0-0))
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Kitsune Ketz Kwineight Captain
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Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 6:38 pm
((Oh, good point. XD However, you also must consider the many fans, like myself, who just love whoring Jounouchi out to any and all characters. I don't think Mai has as many of those fans. Personally, I have considered Ryuuzaki/Jounouchi before, and thought it was amusing, but never thought on it as much as in this thread. Oh, burn Karma! XD))
mongolbunz: augh, like you have tha t mcuh of an affect on me kaiba!!! your just to arogant for ur own good!! you just wait till school starsts again... srsly shut the hell up rex! no one calls me dog but kaiba!! i doubt you could ever surprise me in a fight you scrawny little b*****d
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Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 6:39 pm
mongolbunz: um... the dog thing just read that over... um, yea, i just meant that no one calls me dog becuz thats obnoxious and yeah...
mongolbunz has signed off... from embarrassment!!
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Kitsune Ketz Kwineight Captain
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JuokasKurvas Vice Captain
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Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 10:03 pm
((AHH, I hate the friggin interwebs!! It deleted my post by saying I was signed out, I wasn't. Ugh...to paraphrase. 1. Even if whoring Jou out is something some fans do, I don't think any high percentage of the entire base would truly do that. But, back to the even, Rex is a known but still rather minor character, and a dislikeable one at that - in spite of my personal love for him. 2. There might be a yaoi base, but YGO is shonen, and the majority of the base is probably not into yaoi. But the proof positive? Go to ff.net and you'll find 4 Ryuuzaki/Jounouchi stories total. You'll find 10 pages of Mai/Jou. I think it's a pretty good indicator what people tend to think about.
Burn indeed! You had better get on it!))
BlueEyesPlatinumChckAct: *smirk* Only I can call you that huh? See I'm having a hard time believing in your hatred for me when you attribute nicknames as mine and mine alone.
And sure dog, see you when classes start next term. Just try not to drool on me, that's one token of affection I'd rather not receive. *sneer*
((Aww, you make Kaiba feel so loved Jou razz ))
dinOmite: heh heh, sorry loser. Didn't realize that was your lover's pet name, heh. So dork, who bottoms? heh he heh!
((I'm going to try one of the 4 stories. 2 sound TOO weird, possibly not even pairing based, and most likely written by people who are not native English speakers. The other doesn't give enough description to entice me in, it could be empty fluff, and I'm not in the mood for that. I'll hinge my entire opinion of this pairing on the one story.))
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Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 9:00 pm
((Stupid interwebs! Okay, so the majority of the YUU*GI*OU fanbase is little twelve year old boys, the target demographic. But then again, that is not exactly the group of people that would get into pairings in the first place, let alone pairings that involve minor characters. It's mostly us... older, female fans that do the pairing up, which has a lot larger of a yaoi demographic than the majority of the fandom. And waaaait a minute, that is totally a biased search! XD Of course Jounouchi/Mai would have more results; that pairings is practically cannon, and Mai is a far more popular character than Ryuuzaki. The only way you could use searching as proof for your point is if you did Ryuuzaki/Jounouchi VS Ryuuzaki/Mai, because that's what we're originally discussing to begin with. XD But that wouldn't even account for spellings of different names; Mai would automatically get more results because her name is always spelled the same way, where's Jounouchi has his dub name, his Japanese name, his abbreviated fan term 'Jou,' the Shonen Jump translated spelling, Jonouchi, plus all the other fan spellings, like Jyoonouchi.))
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mongolbunz: why the hell are you guys so disgusting?!?! stressed i just typeod stop misinterpresting things!!!
mongolbunz has signed off
((Oh, could you link me to your search results with the four stories please? =D Apparently I suck at the new ff.net search style, because I couldn't get any results for Jounouchi/Ryuuzaki... I tried different spellings any everything! gonk ))
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Kitsune Ketz Kwineight Captain
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JuokasKurvas Vice Captain
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Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 9:33 pm
((Now now, it's high school boys too, just not your jocks and what have you. And true most of the writers are female, but in general the yaoi fanbase is still relatively small. Most women are not into it.
I was discussing whoring Jou out razz . That way, yea, there is only one Mai/Rex story. But I mean again it's main/minor vs minor/minor, so that's actually less of a proof, the categories aren't even the same. And I'm just using ff.net here, it doesn't use multiple spellings of the characters so that argument also doesn't work here. He's just K. Jounouchi on ff.net. FF.net is half the reason I know Japanese names you know, or else I'd never be able to find fics ^_~))
dinOmite: Now now, heh, no need to be all offended mut-oh wait, heh heh, my bad. That's private right? heh heh heh. Seriously though, heh, at least he's rich right? Nothing to be ashamed of, heh. At least on your end. Seems like quite the step dad for moneybags though, heh heh heh heh heh!!!
((New search style? It's the same as always...where are you?!? Is ff.net special in AZ? Hahaha.
Anyhow here's the search result: http://www.fanfiction.net/anime/Yu-Gi-Oh/10/0/1/1/0/1067/1101/0/0/1
I read Love thy enemy, it was meh...if you read the other 3 let me know if any are worthwhile even somewhat. A message sounds TOO cheesy ridiculous and I just don't know if Real Dinosaurs would be interesting. Again Dirty Little Secrets doesn't have enough of a descrption for me, so yea, let me know what you think))
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Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 6:50 pm
((Well okay... I don't like to include the high school boys though because they were annoying and immature at my school. >_>;; Ahem. Weird, seems like almost any girl I meet both on and offline who are into anime are also at least a little into yaoi. Maybe Arizona's just weird. Like we have such a mix of pure starch conservatives who have been raised here, then all the liberal Californians that moved here, when they bred it created an awesome generation of super gay children who love their yaoi and yuri. Then again, my parents are from Canada and Michigan, so shrugs. Ah, I see. Well yes, most people don't whore Jounouchi out, and in that case, true, only a few Ryuuzaki/Jounouchi fics would show that not many people whore him out to such minor characters. However, I thought our original discussion was over if Ryuuzaki/Jounouchi or Mai/Ryuuzaki would be more popular in the fandom. That's what I was referring to anyway. But going on that original shipping debate, looks like Jounouchi does win at least in the ff.net category; one of my original arguments was that he is a more popular character, so would probably have more ships with Ryuuzaki than Mai. He probably has more ships with most characters than Mai, except for really almost cannon ones, like Varon. Ff.net has seriously gotten it so everyone spells character names the same? O_o That's awesome. Er... Jounouchi's not gonna be posting for a while, because he's humiliated and pissed. XD;; I can't think of anything to say for Sugoroku either... I swear the search function I was using was different than last time! D: (which really was a few years ago; I've really only been using ff.net to read fics people directly send me as of late. This is the search function I was using: http://www.fanfiction.net/search.phpIt used to have a lot more options for searching than it does now, like genre and rating... and I typed in "Jounouchi Ryuuzaki" and various other alternate names and got no results each time... Thanks for the search result! Perhaps I shall try reading one tonight. ^^ I'll not bother with Love the Enemy then, and try one of the other three and tell you how it was.))
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Kitsune Ketz Kwineight Captain
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JuokasKurvas Vice Captain
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Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 7:40 pm
((I know a lot of people online, and people who are intrigued offline, but only a couple who are actually into it and pursue it. Girls are just far less likely to be into guy on guy the way a lot of guys are into girl on girl. Probably because woman are still much more likely to be into monogamy, so fantasizing about two other people is not going to be that much of a turn on. Online is deceptive, because online is attracting all the people who aren't finding large groups offline. I know maybe a dozen or so people who are attracted to yaoi (again, not counting conventions, which are obviously drawing in people from all over the country who are into that, not a reliable sample), the rest are indifferent at best, disgusted at worse - they usually don't care what I'm into but it's just not something they are interested in themself. And then a lot of people have issues with yaoi because they just in general link it straight to sodomy, and I know several guys (straight guys) who are into that. Not really any girls. There's just a lot of elements working against it, and I understand it.
California isn't that liberal, it's diverse - but diverse and liberal aren't the same thing. It's mostly democratic, but democratic and liberal really aren't as similar as politics would have you believe. I mean gay marriage is still illegal here, and that's actually not surprising considering. There is CA as is and there is CA as portrayed, and if people knew the first better they wouldn't be so surprised when things about us seem so contradictory to the second.
Well you said a few comments back that Ryuuzaki/Jounouchi would be likely to have a following on the basis that a lot of people - like yourself - whore Jounouchi out to everyone, so mostly I was addressing the argument that just because a character perhaps gets whored out, does not mean they end up in atypical pairings.
Yea I dunno what Kaiba is going to say either...he's currently "busy" with his meeting, that flight delay has passed, yada yada.
One of the things I've said that I preferred about ff.net, versus say adultfanfiction, is that you can search by characters. You don't need a search function. Just pick the series you want, go to the series...and at the top of the page you can select characters (up to two) who feature in the story (doesn't mean all the stories are pairings, sometimes they are friendship, etc etc, it's just the easiest way to find pairings), and you can even select rating (K, K+, T, M or all...or all but M), genre (angst, mystery, drama, etc etc), story length, and complete or in progress. And it's been like that for years. I have only used the search function once to try and find a story I had read in the past and couldn't find again - and you're right, that search function sucks. And always has, it's pretty much the same as several years ago. It's easier to just go into the series you want and fill out qualifiers there. Perhaps since it's been years you just forgot you don't use the search function, you go to the series. And yes, they only have the Japanese character names. It makes sense to just pick one because it means labels are less likely to be split.
Love Thy Enemy was mostly just Weevil mocking Rex about a crush, so it's pretty much one sided.))
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Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 6:21 pm
((Huh, maybe our states are looked at oppositely compared to what they really are then. XD Almost any girl I meet and end up becoming friends with is at least mildly interested in yaoi and/or slash. Even a lot of the ones who aren't so into anime. But yeah, I agree that online would be deceptive in that, but these are oftentimes girls I meet at school or in other non-biased places. Maybe I just have all the luck? Most of my female friends are somewhat into it, and most of my male friends think it's funny that we're into it, or even enjoy playing around with the idea a bit. Wow, I was always under the impression that California was super liberal. Guess a native would know better than anyone else though. XD Yes, I did say that, but that was mostly just a side comment, which you've since shown wasn't a big enough influence to affect the argument anyway. XD I guess it just shows I really am a strange one... emo Hmm, guess we'll just take a small break until someone else posts or one of us comes up with something then. The search function you're talking about sounds a lot more like the one I would use, except you still had to type in character names instead of selecting from a list. You could also type in just random keywords. And I'm fairly certain you would just click "search" to get to it. Granted, this was back in junior high and early high school for me, so it was quite a long time ago. I am certain though that it has changed at least slightly, because I pretty much used to live on the ff.net search engine. But yay, thanks for telling me how to do better searching. =D ))
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Kitsune Ketz Kwineight Captain
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JuokasKurvas Vice Captain
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Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 7:03 pm
((Yea, I mean I don't know too many people who mind it especially, and the few who find it revolting don't care that I like it, but there is definitely no majority, and I think you definitely have a skewed sampling of people. I mean generally people end up making friends with people with similar interests, so obviously the people you'd befriend would be more likely to be into that. I personally have way too many interets, so I befriend a lot more types of peoples - athletes, musicians, classicists, plus the random myriad of people I meet in the work enviornment who aren't even taylored to any of my specific interests. I think because I have multiple personalities I tend to encounter a wide assortment of personalities. I mean if you can name 200 people who are into yaoi, well, maybe you should send more here... razz
It's more liberal than a lot of states, but I mean it's huge and diverse. So the idea of us being "one" thing is ludicrous. We are too big to be a one. Unlike some of the smaller states that can just have a mass mentality. Some people are hippie liberal, others are straight laced conservative as can be. And some, like myself, fall in the middle. Currently, we have a republican govenor, so many of the reforms and current decisions in our state are from a more conservative stand point in many ways. We have a large number of Catholics and Mormons influncing several things in the state. I mean if you evaluate CA as SF, or even large parts (but again not all) of the bay area - it's liberal as heck, but take the whole rest of the state into consideration and it becomes quite complected indeed.
Strange is good... razz
I guess stalemate trumps abandoned roleplay, haha. I'll force Kaiba on soon, Jou is getting more abuse than he is, so he's not as pissed and shamed.
Yea, I got onto ff.net sophmore year of college? So I've been searching this way 4 and a half years now, I never even thought to use the search function because the main page was just so efficient.))
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Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 7:51 pm
((Well, of course I have a skewed sampling of people who are mostly into anime and video games. XD But our original debate was on how big the yaoi fanbase is in the YUU*GI*OU fandom, so of course it would be expected to mostly refer to the number of yaoi fans who are into anime. I'm not talking about 'normal' people here. XD There is definitely a way bigger proportion of yaoi fans in anime than in like... sports or music. Arizona is kind of like that, but to far less of an extreme. Like we're extremely conservative here, except for in the three cities that have the main colleges: Tempe, Tuscon, and Flagstaff. Those cities are mostly liberal. Alright then. XD Jounouchi needs a good reason to come back at the moment. Ah, see then it's been about eight years for me of being into ff.net, and I haven't used the search function in about five, so they had probably just changed it between the time I stopped using it and the time you started. I'm certain they didn't have that means of searching by series (like in the normal search page, you selected a series from a list, but didn't get to choose characters or anything like that) back in my ff.net glory days, but I do vaguely remember trying searching a bit after I had stopped using the site so much, and it was different and I couldn't figure it out. That was probably after the change, and me trying to use the now-crappy search engine where you can't even select genre and rating. XD But OMG I read that "A Message for Joey" story just now and you so have to read it! It's so amazingly bad that it's hilarious! This is actually a quote from it, "Rex’s chest hurt, which caused him to be in coma." It's not even Rex/Joey, but actually minorly Weevil/Rex. Joey just happens to be a secondary main character. But seriously, it's all about how Rex stopped Joey from creating... biology test questions... like for a school or something. And he's going to hell because of it, so he needs to get Joey to agree to create them... so he can go to heaven? XD And the author claimed to cry while writing it... but you could totally make a drinking game just with how many times they say "biology test questions!" Or if you replaced every "biology" with "seme" and every "biologist" with uke... ah, good times.))
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Kitsune Ketz Kwineight Captain
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JuokasKurvas Vice Captain
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Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 5:15 pm
((Yes, yaoi fans are highly concentrated to anime, however I doubt they'd make a majority, or even close. It's like BDSM, there are a lot of people into it - particularly in the gay community - but not a majority, not even close. I think the reason YGO has a heavier yaoi fanbase than would be likely for a shonen series is because it has too many non-masculine male characters that aren't balanced off in any way by substantial female characters. Unlike say Naruto and Inuyasha that have several main female characters that you can manage to arc around. The only main female character in YGO is pretty much cast in as a cheerleader. If you aren't into yaoi, there is nothing to fetish in YGO the way there is in other series. Jou and Mai are practically the only possible het couple the show really presents that one would be interest in...ok you can be interested in Yuugi and/or Yami no Yuugi and Anzu...buuuuuuuut yea... razz
Yea, CA is just the way it is because of it's size, I mean it's 3 times the size of most states at least. We are bigger than many countries both in size and population. The idea of having a group personality in any large enough area is just ludicrous.
I dunno that I can have Kaiba give Jou a reason, but we'll see...I think Mai would be much better suited to that *pokes Karma*.
Yea, the search engine has probably mostly been abandoned because with such a good one built into series why would it be necessary? Pretty much it's only good if you know the title and series of the story you are looking for and do not want to scroll through the entire listing to find that one story.
*wary of story*...ok as the friend I'm supposed to chill with is currently passed out (at her own home, she hasn't been sleeping lately, probably because she has to share a room with her 15/16 year old brother - which is not cool) maybe I'll check it out, after I get out of my workout clothes, shower and clean my room - assuming she's still out by then. Guild just trumped shower so I could rest my sore little leggies razz . Found a really pretty place to go hiking today. Anyhow random, umm...haha, oh yea. Making me think of that awful Seto/Jou in prision with tea time and wtf story that I never managed to finish, it was just too ridiculous. The writing wasn't even bad it was just way to over the top for me. But I'll glance through this and see if I can handle it. Actually, I rather love Rex/Weevil - like a lot. It's just because I rather hate Weevil I never really manage to search that pairing.))
BlueEyesPlatinumChckAct: W-T-F! You are absolutely disgusting dino-freak! Leave us out of your sick and twisted fantasies, or at least do us the curtsey of not sharing them, I for one don't need to know that you're in love with me or something. I assume the dog agrees.
((Uhh...all I got for now? It's kinda hard because I'm talking to myself, hahahaha... xd ))
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Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 8:19 pm
((I'm too lost in the conversation by now lol. I'll bring END in a bit, just waiting for a good time to come in.))
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JuokasKurvas Vice Captain
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Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 2:18 pm
((Yea...maybe we should move this convo over to the Halloween thread, we totally failed at trying to keep that alive for a whole year into the next Halloween...we could bring it back!!! rofl ))
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