IT SNOWED O_O

[purpleravenhawk]

^ What she said. 3nodding

I'm not suggesting ignoring anything. I'm talking about dealing with it. And for the record, anger is not something that needs to be "let out"; it's not water behind a dam. Stress relief is good, but there's a difference between stress and uncontrollable rage. xp

Actually, blood flow can be controlled with the mind. surprised But that takes years of practice. The best thing for normal people is thought control. "Letting off a little steam" is fine and good, but when "letting off steam" becomes a fix you need in order to function, your brain is stuck in a groove, and you need to do something about it.  

[xwhateverxdudex]

JANnut

Playing something or doing something always doesn't make it a stress buster. It's an addiction and that's never healthy.

Many things having to do with my computer are "stress busters" to me.

TO PURPLE
Everyone deals with anger in their own way, I'm not saying "uncontrollable rage" is good for letting out stress. I'm saying that if you're mad at something, sometimes just sitting there doesn't help. Not everyone on the planet is as (mental-ly controlling) as you are. ~lol~

Most people can't control blood flow with their mind. Just because "some" people can do it, doesn't mean that you should expect it of everyone. That's just unfare. And as for controlling thoughts, it's easier said then done. One more thing that takes years of practice.

And why do you always refer to things commonly used, as a "fix" or an "addiction"? Can't you just accept that when someone finds something that works, it's going to be used frequently? Or are you just saying that to me because I do things for month on end whenever I find something new. It's not my fault that you have a short attention span.

Besides, just because someone finds these games fun, doesn't mean that it's an "addiction" or a "fix". Sometimes things are played, just because it's fun. It doesn't have to be a "replacement for anything that might be missing in someone life". (as I believe you put that)  

[purpleravenhawk]

Oh, boy, where to begin? 'K, first, just because you can't seem to control your own thoughts now doesn't mean you couldn't if you tried. The power of the mind is truly vast.

Second, I didn't say that I expected everyone to control blood flow with their mind. If you read what I said, I said it takes years of practice, and the best thing for normal people is to control their thoughts. Which does not take years of practice, just a little bit of effort.

Third, I don't have a short attention span. I have very little free time. Big difference. Haven't you noticed how much time I spend on gaia? Or Kingdom of Loathing? If I had a short attention span, I'd have quit years ago. There's a difference, slight but noticeable, between an interest and an addiction. Learning that difference is key to maintaining mental health.

Therefore, I say you have an addiction because you display all the symptoms when you don't get your "fix:" short temper, lack of concentration, extreme restlessness, acting "down" or angry, beligerant or aggressive attitude, sometimes even headaches or complaints of a general feeling of unwellness. I realize that you also have many of these "symptoms" all the time, but you only have all of them at once when you haven't had some alone time on your computer that day. Makes it kinda frustrating for the rest of us when we want to do something with you or show you something, and you're in a bad mood just cuz you haven't done one particular thing that day.

I can, and have at several times done so, take breaks from the things that I do every day without any adverse affects. If you think, based on the symptoms of mental addiction, that there's actually something I'm addicted to that I've overlooked, please tell me so I can address it. exclaim  

[xwhateverxdudex]

All points are very valid.

I can't speak for anyone else, but I can speak for me.

My so called "addiction" to these games, is nothing to me.
This is because I repeatedly play, watch, read, look at, ect... everything that is new to me. Heck I'm still rewatching episodes of hellsing, despite the fact that I have already seen them. All of this, everything, is a fad.
If it seems like I am spending more time then usual on it, it's do to one simple reason. I'm not spending more time on it. I've already finished it, and moved on to the next one. I'm just playing games. They are no different to me then any other game. Each and every one of these games are as different to each other as they are to any other game. In truth, I've already finished all the ones I know of, and haven't touched them sence. If I find a new one, I will try it, but they all shouldn't be lumped in as one just because they have the same theme. The exact same thing can be said for everything, not just this.
So to me they aren't addictions, each one is just the next "new thing", just like everything is to me.
Just remember all the times I drove you nuts listening to ONE anime theme over and over again. hehe  

[purpleravenhawk]

Notice how you keep saying "to me" about everything. You obviously realize that your perspective on these things may be skewed. When I refer to something as an addiction, I'm using a medical definition, not my own personal bias. And addictions are not about specific things. It would be highly unusual (although not completely impossible) to say "he's addicted to FF7." More likely, he's addicted to video games in general, or RPGs at the outside. So in this case, yes, they do all get lumped together. Sorry, but that's the way it works. If someone's addicted to alcohol, you can't say he's okay just because he tries a new flavor every week; he's still addicted to drinking.  

[xwhateverxdudex]

I do not believe that my perspective is skewed. Your twisting what I'm saying, so please stop. I'm saying "to me", because I realize that everyone else has a different oppinion on the subject. That's all.

And I wasn't saying "don't lump all video games together", because I agree that that's what we should do. I was saying, don't separate them between sex video games and NON.

I realize I was a little vague on that last post. But I didn't think that my meaning would get THAT lost in translation. (this whole thing is beginning to make my head hurt)

To summarize, "all video games should be lumped together"(including sex video games), and I do not have an obsession with sex video games, but I am addicted to video games in general.  

[purpleravenhawk]

I'm not trying to twist what you're saying. I'm glad you realize that there are other opinions out there. But as far as the games go, sex games do go in their own category because regardless of how much like other video games they may be, they were still designed with a singular purpose in mind - to titillate and arouse (to paraphrase a famous director of pornos). It's like in movies - there's a difference between a movie that just happens to have sex in it and a movie that's built around sex. Sorry I misunderstood your meaning, but my point still stands. I will concede that you may be addicted to video games in general, but I maintain that you have a separate addiction to your "special collection." Even if you don't consider that a separate category, your responses to these different types of games are very different, and your responses to a lack of time spent with them are very different.

I will agree that this discussion is getting unnecessarily heavy. And it's becoming increasingly obvious to me that I'll never get you to change your mind, regardless of the scientific evidence I may have to back me up, so maybe we should let it drop.  

[xwhateverxdudex]

I agree (it should end).
You have your opinion, and I have mine.
And neither of us can change the others mind.

And so I leave...tootles!  

[JanNut]

Heh. Admitting it maybe hard sometimes, Dude blaugh  

[xwhateverxdudex]

I do NOT have an obsession. >.>  

[purpleravenhawk]

Do so. xp  

[xwhateverxdudex]

How can it be an obsession if I act the same way for every new thing I like?
That just makes it normal for me.

You can't judge everyone by everyone elses standards, you have to judge it by what's typical for that person.

Because everone views everything differently.
I could probably say that to me you seem obsessed with a few things that you would disagree with me on.  

[purpleravenhawk]

I really don't want to get into this again. xp I was mostly just being facetious. But just to make a quick point, allow me to briefly quote Shakespeare: "Methinks the lady doth protest too much."  

[xwhateverxdudex]

purple

I really don't want to get into this again

Agreed - I just got carried away.

purple

Methinks the lady doth protest too much

AND don't call me a lady. LOL  

[purpleravenhawk]

*does terrible Jerry Lewis impression* Hey, LAAY-DEE!!

*wonders if it's possible to do a terrible Jerry Lewis impression*