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Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 6:08 am
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Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 8:59 pm
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I'm going to take the opposite stance here--I recite, and completely mean, the entire pledge. Here's why:
Francis Bellamy I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands. And indeed I do. I believe America has the best system of government practical, considering human nature. Everyone has a voice. One person can rise to the presidency and change the world. Everyone has a chance. (Note: the above statements were made of the ideal America--whether or not this could ever exist is open to debate, but I think it can, and it will. I'm keeping my hopes up.)
Francis Bellamy One nation, under God, indivisable, Ah, the all important "Under God." I say this, too, becausethe majority of Americans do believe in some form of deity, so the country, collectively, believes in some form of deity. I see this clause as an additional identifier to the nation I am pledging allegiance.if there is, will be, or ever was a God, we are most certainly under him/her. If the country began believing it was a deity itself, then my pledge would be null and void, and I could leave the meglomaniacs in peace. As to "indivisable," though the Civil War proved this wrong, effectively, it is still illegal for a state to secede; therefore, we are (legally) indivisable.
Francis Bellamy with liberty and justice for all. I endorse these principals, and support their application in any government.
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Posted: Thu May 11, 2006 9:19 am
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Posted: Wed May 17, 2006 9:51 am
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Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 8:20 pm
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Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 3:10 pm
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Pledging your Allegiance to someone you don't believe in, that sounds quite silly to me. I don't see why I'd have to get up and say the pledge. In Middle School, they forced me to do the Pledge otherwise I would get a detention. I went with it anyway.
FalseDiagnosis, we're not allowed to sit. If you're Atheist, Agnostic, Jahova's (sp?) Witness, or any other Religion, you have to stand. I think it's dumb. =/
Anyway, one more of my opinion's is that, it's Genocide. It's basically saying Christianity is the Religion to be when you recite that pledge in the morning, ya' know? So, when you tell someone that you're Atheist you get a crapload of questions. That was like when I told people I was Partially Color Blind. Bad Idea.
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Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 7:26 am
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Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 12:26 pm
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Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 8:08 pm
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Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 8:23 pm
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Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 12:00 pm
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Meisugi_Jaganshi Every day, when our teacher tells us to stand, I'm either sitting on my chair reading a book, reciting my OWN Pledge, or just plain shutting up during the "Under God" part. I've noticed that a long time ago and I don't think I should say it if I don't believe. Not everyone believes in the Pledge or God and those two words probably should be taken out...or at the very least, the teachers shouldn't make a big deal when we choose not to say it, make us say it aaaallll by ourselves after class, or GIVE US DETENTION for not saying it correctly or at all. Unless you go to a private school, your teachers can't force you to say the Pledge of Allegiance. There have been lawsuits over that, and the students usually win.
If they're giving you detention because you're not saying the pledge correctly, ask to make a phone call to your attorney. Even if you don't technically have one, it should scare them enough to shut up.
And if you don't have an attorney but they go ahead and let you, just call your parents and explain what's going on. (Assuming that they're not devout Christians or something...)
You have freedom of speech. They cannot force you to do or say anything. Especially if it goes against your religious principles. (Or lack thereof...)
In the wise words of Michael Moor: "Threaten to file a lawsuit. They HATE that word!"
If you go to a private school, that sucks for you.
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Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 10:01 am
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Kaioke FalseDiagnosis, we're not allowed to sit. If you're Atheist, Agnostic, Jahova's (sp?) Witness, or any other Religion, you have to stand. I think it's dumb. =/
That's not true. At least, not in all states. I live in Florida, and some atheist kid's parents(who deserve a lot of respect) took the matter to court here, and now teachers cannot force kids to stand for the pledge. I haven't stood for it at all since 6th grade, when I learned the words hadn't always been there. I've had some obnoxious teachers along the way who've asked me to stand, but long letters from my dad explaining my position have shut them up.
I also hate when people say,"Oh well if you're atheist, just skip the words." The under god part isn't the only problem(though it is a problem). It's just plain wrong to force kids to do anything they don't want to do. People always ask why you aren't standing, it just being "patriotic". So now teachers are allowed to force us to be patriotic? And what's so patriotic about doing something against your will?
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