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Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 10:44 am
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Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 8:50 pm
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Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 9:04 pm
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Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 2:15 pm
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Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 7:49 pm
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Lord Bitememan Ruyashie Lord Bitememan DanskiWolf vfmacfan I, personally, would be quite pleased to see Palin run for president in 2012. McCain was a Republican In Name Only; And attitudes like that will ensure the GOP becomes a fringe group for extermists. By your standards I'm sure Lincoln and Teddy Roosevelt would have been communists. Quote: Palin, on the other hand, is a true conservative. A completely meaningless phrase. Exactly why I created a thread about Barry Goldwater, Danski. Barry Goldwater wouldn't pass the "true conservative" test today, and would be labeled a RINO, even though he was the FOUNDER of modern conservatism. Barry Goldwater reviled the involvement of religion in politics. He routinely defended gay rights and was an ardent proponent of abortion access. If Goldwater ran in the Republican primary today he would lose the midwest for his pro-abortion and pro-gay rights views, he would lose the south due to his non-Christian heritage and views on separation of church and state, and would probably only carry the northeast and rural west on account of his comparatively moderate views and firm libertarian stance. That really says something about modern "true conservatives," that the founder of the movement would be too liberal for their tastes today. It's an oft spoken refrain from the far right that the modern GOP's ills stem from the party getting "too moderate." But anyone who has even a mildly objective eye can see that the party has lurched SO FAR to the right that it's not even in step with what qualified as conservatism 30 years ago. It's such a joke that people hold Reagan up as a paragon of conservatism given the standards held to today's politicians. Reagan 3 very specific conservative goals that he pursued, and beyond that either gave lip-service to what is called conservatism, or did the exact opposite. Reagan never made firm overtures to overturn Roe v. Wade. Reagan ran a deficit every year he was president, and for the time, huge ones. Reagan signed an amnesty for illegal immigrants into law. Reagan increased funding for the NEA (the same group that held the Mapplethorpe exhibitions). The only reason that Reagan is touted as a "conservative" is that he gave tons of lip service to issues near and dear to all conservative factions, did remarkably little for some of those factions, and walked away popular doing it. So, you're right on Danski. Anyone even mildly within the mainstream today would be called a RINO. Actually, most of the conservatives who brought conservatism to prominence in the US would have been labeled RINOs by today's standards, and the "true conservatives" of the world either don't really exist or are so far outside the mainstream that they could never hope to muster a national majority. Quote: he would lose the south due to his non-Christian heritage and views on separation of church and state, He'd probaly lose us(south) on the gay rights since the majority of christians are against homosexuality. And where did Mitt Romney fail to win primaries? Oh right, the Mormon didn't win them in the religiously intolerant south.
I wouldn't trust a mormon.
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Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 5:36 am
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Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2010 9:56 pm
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Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 7:57 pm
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Posted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 11:37 am
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Posted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 11:38 am
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Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2010 2:17 am
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Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2010 10:20 am
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