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PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 12:29 pm


I have a question!!! It's from the manga...and anime too I think. Well, I don't exactly remember what happened, but it was during battle city when Yami was dueling with Yami Bakura. And like before their duel ended Yami Bakura retreated into the Millennium ring and left a wounded Ryou...who I think fainted. And then (I was reading the Thai version so I'm sorta confused here) someone said that if Yami attacked, he would kill Ryou. And then I don't really remember what happened after that but I DO remember Yami attacking, and Yami Bakura telling him to. And like Bakura came out of the ring and stood infront of Ryou to take the blow...and he disappeared.
Well, I heard some people say that Bakura did what he did for his own personal benefits. But then I hear other people saying that Bakura did it to save Ryou cause he cared a bit for him. And then I heard someone else say that Bakura only did it because if Ryou died, then Bakura would have to be in the Ring until someone else becomes his host (which is unlikely to happen cuase of Yami).
So does anyone here have any answers or suggestions? Cause I dont know which is right... sweatdrop
PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 12:37 pm


Well... I haven't bought the 17th volume yet so I can't be 100% sure about the explination in the manga. T-T

But from watching the anime I'm pretty sure it was because of that third reason. Which would basically mean it was for his benefit so I think 1 is correct too.

I think if his motive was that he cared about Ryou it would have been disgustingly out of character, but I'm sure there are plenty of people that will dispute that. >_<

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 1:29 pm


So Yami Bakura doesnt care for Ryou at all? ............Not like I was expecting the second reason, but.........still....ah, no. It's not like Bakura to care for anyone don't you think? His childhood was pretty screwed up... cry
PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 3:03 pm


i have to agree with pixie. I don't think Yami Bakura cares for much. confused

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 4:30 pm


^ At least not in the way that most Tendershipping fans wished. It is stated though that Yami no Bakura "values his landlord" and "wants to make him happy" in the manga. Of course, this is very sarcastic, even though he does in a way help Bakura Ryou by sealing his mean gym teacher in a toy. XD;; I think what Yami no Bakura feels for Bakura is that he is a necessity to reach his goal and I also think Yami no Bakura can be quite possesive of his host, feeling like he is the only one allowed to hurt him. (he got mad when the gym teacher pulled his hair yet he's willing to cut himself if it benefits) To me it seems kind of like a twisted respect and thanks to Bakura for being his host, but that doesn't necessarly mean he "cares" for the kid.
PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 4:35 pm


How....confusing..... eek

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 4:56 pm


I was thinking that "twisted respect" thing for a while too,

But come to think of it, I don't really believe Bakura thinks much of his host at all since he tried to switch bodies in duelist kingdom.

Everybody is a pawn in his eyes. That's why he's so fun to watch. =3
PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 5:28 pm


Bakura's.....soo.....bad.........I LIKE IT!!!! mrgreen

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 8:01 pm


It's confusing. o_o I know he has to care about Ryou or else he won't have a body, but I don't know about how much respect he could possibly have for Ryou. but then like Kitsune said, about how no one is allowed to hurt Ryou but himself(Hahaha, that's kind of hot)

I think it's mostly an opinion thing. You can sit and consider the ways Yami Bakura cares for Ryou, but then you could just find another reason why he doesn't care. I'm really really happy Kazuki Takahashi didn't explain every little thing about the series. He left a lot up for discussion and that makes YuGiOh really special. *smiles and nods*
PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 11:48 am


It makes Yugioh very confusing.............but I LIKE debating about Bakura!!! whee

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 3:27 pm


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I was thinking that "twisted respect" thing for a while too,

But come to think of it, I don't really believe Bakura thinks much of his host at all since he tried to switch bodies in duelist kingdom.

Everybody is a pawn in his eyes. That's why he's so fun to watch. =3

But you do gotta consider that that part wasn't in the manga and therefore isn't completely canon.
PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 4:03 pm


I got a qustion! Does Kaiba own GX, or did he just pay for it?

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 5:08 pm


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I was thinking that "twisted respect" thing for a while too,

But come to think of it, I don't really believe Bakura thinks much of his host at all since he tried to switch bodies in duelist kingdom.

Everybody is a pawn in his eyes. That's why he's so fun to watch. =3

But you do gotta consider that that part wasn't in the manga and therefore isn't completely canon.


Yeah, but it wasn't a filler arc, so I still count it.

I mean the reason they add or change details in the anime from the manga at all is to get the message of the actions or character developements across better in the animation, right? It's like a second, revised draft of the original story that's a little clearer and more exciting.
(well... it's supposed to be clearer anyway >.>; )

Filler seasons are just cracky side-stories so I don't pay much attention to the character developements in those, but come on. Duelist Kingdom was still a main season, even if it isn't the exact same as the manga I still consider it the true story. =)

Maybe I'm not understanding the definition of cannon?

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Well I was under the impression that he started the school, so I'm guessing he paid for it. Not sure if he still owns it since he is never there, but it's probably because he's too busy crushing other game companies, starting card contests and launching things into space to be there.
PostPosted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 5:44 pm


You're right that instead of it being a filler it was necessary to give more of a story to Bakura, but what I mean is the whole "switching bodies with host thing" isn't manga canon. That's all. XD;;
And Kaiba launching things into space! I seriously thought I was high when I saw that episode! rofl

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 9:45 pm


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Maybe I'm not understanding the definition of cannon?



It's what's used to describe originality. I think at this point you can have anime Cannon and Manga Cannon. Basically anything that didn't happen in the series is not considered Cannon. It's basically the history of the series.
Like Mary Sues, the typical, cousin, sister, twin, destined wife, reincarnated wife of Yugi is not cannon. Because they distort Yugi's own history to justify their existance.
Canon=History of the series, either anime, manga or both.
Alternate Universe= Anything that alter's what already exists, like Bakura not getting the ring, or Jounouchi not befriending Yugi.
Continuation= When Canon history is left unchanged, and the history created by the series is also left unchanged.
An example would be, Yugi's first meeting Anzu, something that you never see in the manga or anime, that's Canon though because we know it happened. Everything you saw in the series, Duelist Kingdom, Battle City, all that is left unchanged and unaltered, but now after the puzzle is gone and so to the items a new adventure starts.
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