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 Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 6:55 am
Chibi Riku 22 Ayorai Ayanami Rei First Child What was so bad about that Max Payne movie? I'm just not sure who I want to vote for. I mean George Bush has done some rather bad things, but then Obama is too abortionist. Too many pros and cons of each damn it! gonk *Pouts cutely as she holds up her jagged stone* You mean I can't use this on the heathen!? What kind of peace keeper ARE you to not let me stone the heathen?! gonk "What was so bad about that Max Payne movie?" The fact that the main character is played by an actor who played in the movie 'Dogma' mocking religion and people for believing in religion... Umm.... Mark Wahlberg as Max Payne is not Loki from Dogma sweatdrop I saw Max Payne, and it was terrible to follow. It was hardly entertaining and during many points in the movie I'm like, "there's no way that's possible even in the slightest." Example: security guards are called in to investigate matters concerning a possible hostage situation. About a DOZEN HEAVILY ARMED AND ARMORED security guards owned by the building storm the floor and go after Payne. WTF. There's no way on this planet a group of guards like that can move so quickly or be called to the scene in such a fashion without sufficient time for Payne to escape (which would've been roughly 3 minutes, they were there seemingly seconds after the call was made). Any more questions? I can list more but it'll be TLDR if I do... Oops, need to wear my glasses during the commercials, thought he looked like someone else, my bad... withdraws criticism sweatdrop
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Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 6:57 am
its based on another video game if you dont know now most game movies are rubbish ninja
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Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 7:00 am
Tenchi_ Masaki so how is banning guns a bad thing? if that happens you wont get ny og your crazy assed students shooting up schools, lol either way your countries doomed =S, mines down the tubes already sad Yes, lets ban guns, so that the only people that have them are THE criminals... 2nd Amendment, thank you. If teachers had guns, victims of school shootings would decrease... the students shooting people with guns had them ILLEGALLY, thus lets have no guns to protect ourselves from these criminals...
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Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 7:12 am
anyone take that survey on the election gaia just released?
they should have had two options under rasim.
true some won't vote for obama because he's "black" but there are plenty out there that will vote for him just because he's "black"
I was raised catholic but unlike the rest of the family i believe in abortion up to a point and under certain conditions.
Abortion due to incest is okay in my book
Abortion due to rape is okay in my book
Abortion due to extrem heath risk or deformities is alright in my book
Abortion because of Age and Size is okay in my book. (a 12 year old shouldn't be pregant and shouldn't give birth. 15-16+ is the magic number to when they should just adopt out.)
Other then those four if you want an abortion then you should get it before the heart of the fetus starts to beat, other wise its not in my book. I mean you're technically dead/not alive when you have no heartbeat or pulse so the same rules should apply to fetuses.
Some say life begins at conception, but that depends on who's conception you're talking about.
I mean really all the egg, sperm and/or embryo is up to a point is a cell or mass of cells that are living in a sense, but not what i'd call human.
I mean i scratch my arm and i "kill" thousands of cells and organism that get shreded and crushed by my fingers and nails.
and if you want to get technical then life begins when blood is infused into the fetus which if i remember CSI is 14 days after something.
But really until that heart starts beating then that fetus that barley qualifies as either human or alive is just a mass of cells that doesn't necessarily contain the traits i'd identify as being a full human.
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Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 7:46 am
Yami Takashi anyone take that survey on the election gaia just released? they should have had two options under rasim. true some won't vote for obama because he's "black" but there are plenty out there that will vote for him just because he's "black" I was raised catholic but unlike the rest of the family i believe in abortion up to a point and under certain conditions. Abortion due to incest is okay in my book Abortion due to rape is okay in my book Abortion due to extrem heath risk or deformities is alright in my book Abortion because of Age and Size is okay in my book. (a 12 year old shouldn't be pregant and shouldn't give birth. 15-16+ is the magic number to when they should just adopt out.) Other then those four if you want an abortion then you should get it before the heart of the fetus starts to beat, other wise its not in my book. I mean you're technically dead/not alive when you have no heartbeat or pulse so the same rules should apply to fetuses. Some say life begins at conception, but that depends on who's conception you're talking about. I mean really all the egg, sperm and/or embryo is up to a point is a cell or mass of cells that are living in a sense, but not what i'd call human. I mean i scratch my arm and i "kill" thousands of cells and organism that get shreded and crushed by my fingers and nails. and if you want to get technical then life begins when blood is infused into the fetus which if i remember CSI is 14 days after something. But really until that heart starts beating then that fetus that barley qualifies as either human or alive is just a mass of cells that doesn't necessarily contain the traits i'd identify as being a full human. It's proven fact that life begins at conception there is no relativism in that. The level of life is what is at issue of debate. Second, in case of rape or incest or age, I would disagree with you. Its still a living human being, and killing it is still murder. If you don't want the responsibility of raising it, you can give it up for adoption, no one has the right to murder it. In case of the health of the mother, thats extremely low, less then 10% of all abortions are actually done for the risk of the mothers health. Second, health of the mother has been broaden to include, headaches and other such frivolous claims as a medical condition requiring an abortion. Third, 3 times as many women die from complications due to an abortion then due to complications of carrying full term. Thats not 3% more likely, thats 300% more likely for a woman to die from a abortion as apposed to carrying full term. Fourth, I forget what the rate was but their is an significantly higher chance of getting breast cancer if you underwent an abortion...
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Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 7:55 am
Also, the embryo has its own DNA at conception mind you....
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Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 3:24 pm
Ayorai Tenchi_ Masaki so how is banning guns a bad thing? if that happens you wont get ny og your crazy assed students shooting up schools, lol either way your countries doomed =S, mines down the tubes already sad Yes, lets ban guns, so that the only people that have them are THE criminals... 2nd Amendment, thank you. If teachers had guns, victims of school shootings would decrease... the students shooting people with guns had them ILLEGALLY, thus lets have no guns to protect ourselves from these criminals... ha banning guns does work look where i live it has been done if we cn do it so can you.... in ireland ppl died due to god etc but now ppl cant even get more guns illegaly smile though granted your countries way bigger so will take longer but we cleaned guns of our streets i am sure you lot can do it too
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Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 4:58 pm
Ayorai Yami Takashi anyone take that survey on the election gaia just released? they should have had two options under rasim. true some won't vote for obama because he's "black" but there are plenty out there that will vote for him just because he's "black" I was raised catholic but unlike the rest of the family i believe in abortion up to a point and under certain conditions. Abortion due to incest is okay in my book Abortion due to rape is okay in my book Abortion due to extrem heath risk or deformities is alright in my book Abortion because of Age and Size is okay in my book. (a 12 year old shouldn't be pregant and shouldn't give birth. 15-16+ is the magic number to when they should just adopt out.) Other then those four if you want an abortion then you should get it before the heart of the fetus starts to beat, other wise its not in my book. I mean you're technically dead/not alive when you have no heartbeat or pulse so the same rules should apply to fetuses. Some say life begins at conception, but that depends on who's conception you're talking about. I mean really all the egg, sperm and/or embryo is up to a point is a cell or mass of cells that are living in a sense, but not what i'd call human. I mean i scratch my arm and i "kill" thousands of cells and organism that get shreded and crushed by my fingers and nails. and if you want to get technical then life begins when blood is infused into the fetus which if i remember CSI is 14 days after something. But really until that heart starts beating then that fetus that barley qualifies as either human or alive is just a mass of cells that doesn't necessarily contain the traits i'd identify as being a full human. It's proven fact that life begins at conception there is no relativism in that. The level of life is what is at issue of debate. Second, in case of rape or incest or age, I would disagree with you. Its still a living human being, and killing it is still murder. If you don't want the responsibility of raising it, you can give it up for adoption, no one has the right to murder it. In case of the health of the mother, thats extremely low, less then 10% of all abortions are actually done for the risk of the mothers health. Second, health of the mother has been broaden to include, headaches and other such frivolous claims as a medical condition requiring an abortion. Third, 3 times as many women die from complications due to an abortion then due to complications of carrying full term. Thats not 3% more likely, thats 300% more likely for a woman to die from a abortion as apposed to carrying full term. Fourth, I forget what the rate was but their is an significantly higher chance of getting breast cancer if you underwent an abortion... Here's my opinion: if a woman has the option of granting life to her child or not, it is her sole decision whether or not she wants to abort it in a timely matter or not. For a law to make such a widespread decision on that without understanding mitigating circumstances is going too far IMO so it's just easier leaving it up to the female to decide.
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Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 5:45 pm
Chibi Riku 22 Ayorai Yami Takashi anyone take that survey on the election gaia just released? they should have had two options under rasim. true some won't vote for obama because he's "black" but there are plenty out there that will vote for him just because he's "black" I was raised catholic but unlike the rest of the family i believe in abortion up to a point and under certain conditions. Abortion due to incest is okay in my book Abortion due to rape is okay in my book Abortion due to extrem heath risk or deformities is alright in my book Abortion because of Age and Size is okay in my book. (a 12 year old shouldn't be pregant and shouldn't give birth. 15-16+ is the magic number to when they should just adopt out.) Other then those four if you want an abortion then you should get it before the heart of the fetus starts to beat, other wise its not in my book. I mean you're technically dead/not alive when you have no heartbeat or pulse so the same rules should apply to fetuses. Some say life begins at conception, but that depends on who's conception you're talking about. I mean really all the egg, sperm and/or embryo is up to a point is a cell or mass of cells that are living in a sense, but not what i'd call human. I mean i scratch my arm and i "kill" thousands of cells and organism that get shreded and crushed by my fingers and nails. and if you want to get technical then life begins when blood is infused into the fetus which if i remember CSI is 14 days after something. But really until that heart starts beating then that fetus that barley qualifies as either human or alive is just a mass of cells that doesn't necessarily contain the traits i'd identify as being a full human. It's proven fact that life begins at conception there is no relativism in that. The level of life is what is at issue of debate. Second, in case of rape or incest or age, I would disagree with you. Its still a living human being, and killing it is still murder. If you don't want the responsibility of raising it, you can give it up for adoption, no one has the right to murder it. In case of the health of the mother, thats extremely low, less then 10% of all abortions are actually done for the risk of the mothers health. Second, health of the mother has been broaden to include, headaches and other such frivolous claims as a medical condition requiring an abortion. Third, 3 times as many women die from complications due to an abortion then due to complications of carrying full term. Thats not 3% more likely, thats 300% more likely for a woman to die from a abortion as apposed to carrying full term. Fourth, I forget what the rate was but their is an significantly higher chance of getting breast cancer if you underwent an abortion... Here's my opinion: if a woman has the option of granting life to her child or not, it is her sole decision whether or not she wants to abort it in a timely matter or not. For a law to make such a widespread decision on that without understanding mitigating circumstances is going too far IMO so it's just easier leaving it up to the female to decide. Murdering a unborn child is NOT up to anyone's decision. You're lucky your mother didn't decide to abort you. 40,000,000+ and 1,000,000 more each year weren't so lucky.
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Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 5:50 pm
Tenchi_ Masaki Ayorai Tenchi_ Masaki so how is banning guns a bad thing? if that happens you wont get ny og your crazy assed students shooting up schools, lol either way your countries doomed =S, mines down the tubes already sad Yes, lets ban guns, so that the only people that have them are THE criminals... 2nd Amendment, thank you. If teachers had guns, victims of school shootings would decrease... the students shooting people with guns had them ILLEGALLY, thus lets have no guns to protect ourselves from these criminals... ha banning guns does work look where i live it has been done if we cn do it so can you.... in ireland ppl died due to god etc but now ppl cant even get more guns illegaly smile though granted your countries way bigger so will take longer but we cleaned guns of our streets i am sure you lot can do it too Love Ireland, land of my ancestral heritage, but a banning an person's right to self protection is the wrong decision no matter the reason...
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Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 7:30 pm
Momiji Akiko Chibi Riku 22 Ayorai Yami Takashi anyone take that survey on the election gaia just released? they should have had two options under rasim. true some won't vote for obama because he's "black" but there are plenty out there that will vote for him just because he's "black" I was raised catholic but unlike the rest of the family i believe in abortion up to a point and under certain conditions. Abortion due to incest is okay in my book Abortion due to rape is okay in my book Abortion due to extrem heath risk or deformities is alright in my book Abortion because of Age and Size is okay in my book. (a 12 year old shouldn't be pregant and shouldn't give birth. 15-16+ is the magic number to when they should just adopt out.) Other then those four if you want an abortion then you should get it before the heart of the fetus starts to beat, other wise its not in my book. I mean you're technically dead/not alive when you have no heartbeat or pulse so the same rules should apply to fetuses. Some say life begins at conception, but that depends on who's conception you're talking about. I mean really all the egg, sperm and/or embryo is up to a point is a cell or mass of cells that are living in a sense, but not what i'd call human. I mean i scratch my arm and i "kill" thousands of cells and organism that get shreded and crushed by my fingers and nails. and if you want to get technical then life begins when blood is infused into the fetus which if i remember CSI is 14 days after something. But really until that heart starts beating then that fetus that barley qualifies as either human or alive is just a mass of cells that doesn't necessarily contain the traits i'd identify as being a full human. It's proven fact that life begins at conception there is no relativism in that. The level of life is what is at issue of debate. Second, in case of rape or incest or age, I would disagree with you. Its still a living human being, and killing it is still murder. If you don't want the responsibility of raising it, you can give it up for adoption, no one has the right to murder it. In case of the health of the mother, thats extremely low, less then 10% of all abortions are actually done for the risk of the mothers health. Second, health of the mother has been broaden to include, headaches and other such frivolous claims as a medical condition requiring an abortion. Third, 3 times as many women die from complications due to an abortion then due to complications of carrying full term. Thats not 3% more likely, thats 300% more likely for a woman to die from a abortion as apposed to carrying full term. Fourth, I forget what the rate was but their is an significantly higher chance of getting breast cancer if you underwent an abortion... Here's my opinion: if a woman has the option of granting life to her child or not, it is her sole decision whether or not she wants to abort it in a timely matter or not. For a law to make such a widespread decision on that without understanding mitigating circumstances is going too far IMO so it's just easier leaving it up to the female to decide. Murdering a unborn child is NOT up to anyone's decision. You're lucky your mother didn't decide to abort you. 40,000,000+ and 1,000,000 more each year weren't so lucky. Yes, however there's a difference between being a statistic of an unwanted child and being a surprise (maybe that didn't come out right). My point is that there is such a thing as contraceptive and it took a long time for my mom to get preggo in her so huh? But look at that, by using contraceptive those are the exact same possibilities of creating a child however restraining the option of life before it has a chance to get to that point, because a fertile father and mother will always create a child when doing the dirty so in my opinion I still don't see the point it's always up to the female at the very least. neutral
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Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 9:08 pm
Chibi Riku 22 Yes, however there's a difference between being a statistic of an unwanted child and being a surprise (maybe that didn't come out right). My point is that there is such a thing as contraceptive and it took a long time for my mom to get preggo in her so huh? But look at that, by using contraceptive those are the exact same possibilities of creating a child however restraining the option of life before it has a chance to get to that point, because a fertile father and mother will always create a child when doing the dirty so in my opinion I still don't see the point it's always up to the female at the very least. neutral So, because its a 'surprise' that gives someone the right to murder it? And if contraception doesn't work how about restraining yourself? I mean every time you have sex, it doesn't matter how you do it, there is going to be a chance that you will conceive a child. Therefore, if you're not mature enough to take responsibility of a child, you're not mature enough to have sex. And if you aren't mature enough to take care of the life you created then GIVE IT UP FOR ADOPTION. There are more people looking adopt a child each year then there are abortions, so to say the child is unwanted is no excuse. If being not wanted gives the right to someone to kill another human being then we all ought to be afraid...
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Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 10:18 pm
Okay...Momiji is in another frothing fervor again...
*Considers smacking Yami for repeatedly throwing out flamebait...and others for taking such bait*
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It's my job to promote peace here, but it seems that everyone is itching to fight (over unwinnable topics, nonetheless), so I'll leave y'all to it...
I'll be on the sidelines munching popcorn with Yami until this works itself out...
rolleyes
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Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 4:52 am
Momiji Akiko Tenchi_ Masaki Ayorai Tenchi_ Masaki so how is banning guns a bad thing? if that happens you wont get ny og your crazy assed students shooting up schools, lol either way your countries doomed =S, mines down the tubes already sad Yes, lets ban guns, so that the only people that have them are THE criminals... 2nd Amendment, thank you. If teachers had guns, victims of school shootings would decrease... the students shooting people with guns had them ILLEGALLY, thus lets have no guns to protect ourselves from these criminals... ha banning guns does work look where i live it has been done if we cn do it so can you.... in ireland ppl died due to god etc but now ppl cant even get more guns illegaly smile though granted your countries way bigger so will take longer but we cleaned guns of our streets i am sure you lot can do it too Love Ireland, land of my ancestral heritage, but a banning an person's right to self protection is the wrong decision no matter the reason... see now the cowaridce of america shows, you need a fire arm to defend yourself pfft bloody pathetic my opinion of you americans went down a couple of notches, but for frame of mind, recently a law has been pased here for ppl to defend there homes from attack or robberys withouth persucation (not splet right i am sure) you are allowed to own a baseball bt /cricket to drive off your attackers not pump them full of lead. Granted gun crime etc has died here now literally by banning all guns but personally to me you all think a gund gives you power so you need one for protection just mkes me sick -.- (I apologise if i have caused any offence to my friends here) thats all i say now on the subject ^^ *sets besides yami + kaggie and gives them a soda
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Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 9:10 am
2NA Okay...Momiji is in another frothing fervor again... *Considers smacking Yami for repeatedly throwing out flamebait...and others for taking such bait* stare It's my job to promote peace here, but it seems that everyone is itching to fight (over unwinnable topics, nonetheless), so I'll leave y'all to it... I'll be on the sidelines munching popcorn with Yami until this works itself out... rolleyes I'm not flame baiting, i was continueing a comment on abortion brought up by someone else. But on the thought of living murder and own dna here are some things to think about a sperm is living, a egg sell is living, any cell is alive be it single or multi. The thing is that just because a sperm and egg meet doesn't make the union of the two cells into a new cell that divids any different then two skin cells that divid. I never heard that the new embryo has its own DNA, but if you want to look at it that way then we shouldn't cure cancer. baised on my knowledge of cancer, its a result of mutated and abnormal DNA that is not the same as the healthy cells around it. a healthy skin cell and a cancer skin cell from the same person comes from the same person, but one will have DNA that isn't 100% the same as the other. some strands of DNA in one cell might have different genes that have turned on or off and become dominat or rececive. The egg is living (normally) before the sperm reaches it, the sperm is living (normally) before it reaches the egg, both join and the new zygote/embro (i forget the order of naming) is living, but only at the level of a normal cell. Really if you think about it as fast as Zygote/embro grows its like cancer in a way. I mean both involves the rapid dividing of cells into new ones. We could argue about the morality of abortions nonstop and not get anywhere, but the fact is that it just depends on how you look at things. If science can prove that there is more life in a newly formed Zygote/Embryo then there is in a cancer or normal cell then i'll rethink my stance on it, but up until a certain stage all it is, is a mass of cells that is no different then the ones i kill by scratching my head. Abortion has been around as long as prositution and adoption if not longer. I mean they have plants in the rain forest that the locals use for protection of abortions. The women are free to self administer the medicine that is made from the plant to cause a misscarrigage. I was raised a catholic, but if i can look at things in a borader more scientific way then why can't everyone else? My mother has a paper thin uterus that caused her to be bed rested with me, and 5 months into her pregnancy with my sister caused her to misscarry when it ripped. I know how she felt when she lost the baby, but by then it was already formed enough to be called human. A bumby mass of fleshy cells and a fetus are two different things, especially when the heart has started working. A human is not alive with out a beating heart, so i use that same rule in my feelings on the thought of abortion. Its ok up until the heart starts beating, and after 6-7 months that baby can be c-sectioned and given a chance to live and not be aborted. I'm not sure about the truth in this but apparently from what my mom said she saw on the tv, when they abort higher trimester fetuses they are still alive in a sink for days and under the law can't receive medical treatment. I mean if it is going live that long then the hospital could at least try to keep it alive, but they won't because of funding and stuff. My mom said a nurse testified (not in court) to Obama that this kind of thing goes on. Though i believe in Abortion up to a point (before heart beats), I feel that carrying a baby to a safe enough time (5-7 months) and given as much chance to live as any premy is the direction we should take. Killing the mass of cells is okay in my book until the heart beat, then i'm against abortion, but after that let it go through or go as far enough where it can be safely extracted and given a chance to live like a premy. I was a month (2 months technically) preamy, i had the cord wraped around my neck and when i was born the doctors screw my arm up and thought they broke it and my neck. I understand people's feelings on abortion, but i can't understand people's obsession with calling it murder just because it was made the bibical sense and could be a human being if given a chance. People will b***h and moan until judgement day about this, but until we can compromise enough and meet half way it'll never stop. I like to try and meet as close to half way as my religion and faith in science can allow
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