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Ayanami Rei First Child Captain
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Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 3:07 am
Well it's true that it's more non-white. Although if you look at statistics they tend to be richer areas. But I guess I meant extra white, more like preppy more?
Well it's not Puerto Rican women in America, it's them in Peurto Rico. They do make up MORE THEN HALF the causes of accidents. Now you can't tell me that women don't deserve more attention on the highways and such because of that. It'd be like saying "Well rich people who drive sports cars tend to cause the most accidents by being reckless drivers. Although we shouldn't pay them any extra attention, because that's descrimination against wealthy people!".
I'm also not trying to claim that all non-white kids from Oakland, even from the rougher areas, are trash. There are SOME good ones, in fact some of them helped get our car running when it broke down while we were clowning in The Ghetto. I'm also not trying to say them being Non-White Oakland Kids is the reason for their pathology. I am merely stating that is the group, not the reason for the group's actions.
In reality it probably has to do with a variety of things, like that hip hop crap. Lack of education, considering people who are more educated commit less violent crimes and such. Possibly having a parent in Jail.
Regardless of WHY they are so messed up, or WHY these kids do it, the FACT REMAINS is that THIS SPECIFIC GROUP is SORELY RESPONSIBLE for KILLING ALAMEDA CITIZENS WITH GUNS. WITHOUT GOOD REASON.
I don't like the fact that our cops do that, but if they didn't, then more of them would come in causing trouble. There are people of other (non-white) races that agree with me. If say...Scientologists were becoming violent in your town...and year after year they started killing your innocent civilians. Would you honestly tell me that you wouldn't be in favor of the cops paying them extra attention, at the cost of saving lives?
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Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 3:21 am
First off, your hypotheticals are pretty far from the point you're trying to make...secondly, the fact that your original statements were racist still stands, no matter how you rationalize it.
Thirdly, women causing half the accidents isn't that big of a deal, since you know, women are more than 50% of the population. It sounds like they're just causing their fair share. 'sides, your entire argument there is based off of something a friend told you, and hardly passes as fact. O.o
Actually, all I'm hearing here are opinions and supposed rationalizations for them. There are no statistics here, no references - just a bunch of anecdotal references and second-hand stories.
I agree with you that gangs are bad news - we have them here, and the violence often spills over into neighboring, generally peaceful areas, which is a sad shame. But to condemn an entire area because of a few punks who live there is going a bit far. <<;
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Ayanami Rei First Child Captain
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Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 3:32 am
I didn't condemn an entire area! *Rolls eyes* I said that there are areas of Oakland I would go to. Anyways in terms of the facts...it's a fact that kids from Oakland are ALWAYS involved in our shootings, which happen like...maybe 2 times a year max. If a type of kid from Oakland has a VERY high chance of killing someone in my beloved City...I want them to be watched. I want them to know that the cops aren't going to stand for that.
If the situation was reversed and it was white people causing trouble in Oakland, I would understand and symapthize with that. It'd suck...but I'd understand.
I didn't mean for it to be racist, it just came out that way since I didn't explain it right.
I have two friends from Oakland who are black, but neither of them were the violent type.
To prove my point I'm going to start looking for more facts on this, just so you can understand how lives can be saved by this.
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Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 3:43 am
Ayanami Rei First Child I didn't condemn an entire area! *Rolls eyes* I said that there are areas of Oakland I would go to. Anyways in terms of the facts...it's a fact that kids from Oakland are ALWAYS involved in our shootings, which happen like...maybe 2 times a year max. If a type of kid from Oakland has a VERY high chance of killing someone in my beloved City...I want them to be watched. I want them to know that the cops aren't going to stand for that. If the situation was reversed and it was white people causing trouble in Oakland, I would understand and symapthize with that. It'd suck...but I'd understand. I didn't mean for it to be racist, it just came out that way since I didn't explain it right. I have two friends from Oakland who are black, but neither of them were the violent type. To prove my point I'm going to start looking for more facts on this, just so you can understand how lives can be saved by this. In your revised statement, you said that, but that's not what we're talking about. stare You're telling me that there is never a white person from Oakland who has killed people in your area? My only real issue is that you seem to consider white people to be above such crimes, almost like they're better in general. <<; Oh geez...no need to dig up racial profiling stats...I can understand how a cop might keep an eye on a car that looks drastically "out of place" - if you see an old rusty Buick rolling slowly around in a neighborhood of million-dollar houses, yeah, that's suspicious. But to define "out of place" simply by the driver's race is messed up. o.x Can't we just agree that those two statements were simply worded badly, that gangs suck, and leave it at that? 3nodding
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Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 3:46 am
ok how abourt i intervine here, and tell you both to cool it before i start cracking skulls we are a guild and meant to get along these heated debates wont do us any good if we cant agree on such things so lets all just get along k ninja
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Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 3:48 am
Tenchi Misaki1 ok how abourt i intervine here, and tell you both to cool it before i start cracking skulls we are a guild and meant to get along these heated debates wont do us any good if we cant agree on such things so lets all just get along k ninja I'm perfectly fine with that - I don't like these debates anyway. I'm a lover, not a fighter - shoot, Rei-kakka can even have her rebuttal, and I'll just let it go. 3nodding
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Ayanami Rei First Child Captain
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Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 3:49 am
I'm not saying the white people aren't involved at all. Or that they don't commit crimes. They had the POTENTIAL to do it in them. They were WEAK. They allowed BAD COMPANY to CORRUPT GOOD MORALS. Those people from Oakland were the BAD COMPANY. That's what it boils down to.
Now I've said my peace.
Also here's some statistics to show how nice it is here:
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Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 3:59 am
ok good i am sorry for butting in but those debates never go down well you two are two stubborn lol so let it go ^^
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Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 4:02 am
No worries - I get tired of these debates really quickly, so it's easy to just let them go. 3nodding
Only thing: The stats aren't showing up, Rei-kakka... o.o
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Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 4:05 am
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Ayanami Rei First Child Captain
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Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 4:11 am
Those sound like the stats here...lost dogs are usually the big news on the front page of the paper... xd
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Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 4:14 am
I live in Oslo Norway well thats my home town, but i now live in Antrim Northern Ireland five minutes down the road from Tenchhhhhhhiiiiiiiiii smile
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Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 4:37 am
2NA Ayanami Rei First Child For the record I do not hate black people and I am not racist. I have good friends of different colors. If my one female black friend wanted me romantically and would just stop being such a damn workaholic I would date her. It's simply that the kids from Oakland tend to be rather dangerous and less moral. That's just how things are around where I live. It's not meant to be a statement about black people as a whole. Personally I put the blame on the poverty over there and that stupid music they listen to. stare Well, that makes me feel better...but you must admit that those earlier statements do read really badly... <<; I got that members of gangs from Oakland are out of their minds and aren't even worth helping. Hey, they might turn a leaf if their football team didn't suck so hard xD
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Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 9:45 am
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Ayanami Rei First Child Captain
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Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 3:46 pm
Ryoko Rosea I live in Oslo Norway well thats my home town, but i now live in Antrim Northern Ireland five minutes down the road from Tenchhhhhhhiiiiiiiiii smile Wow! That sounds AWESOME! So what kind of juicy gossip can you give us about Tenchi? twisted heart Greetings new member!
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