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PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 4:06 pm


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It wouldn't since I was a christian to, but I don't believe the bible anymore its been changed to much.

Actually, the Bible hasn't been changed at all, it remains true to the original manuscripts. Whoever told you otherwise is either ignorant or intentionally lying.

And may I ask how you know this. How do you know that nothings been changed with the Bible over thousands of years besides into other languages, that nothings been dropped out of it? We are only human and we are selfish beings. We change things just to get what we want, money, possessions, special attention, even God fearing Christians do it, Jews do it, everyone does it. I'm not saying I'm perfect, I do it to I'm just as selfish as every one else.


For the New Testament there's such a thing called the ORIGINAL MANUSCRIPTS, and regardless of the language your Bible is translated into its still checked against the original Greek and Hebrew Texts. Please do research before you start jumping to conclusions...

Now the Old Testament has been the same for at least 200 years before Christ was born.

Your premise is faulty as well, you assume these things without evidence, especially since there is evidence to the contrary.

OK I admit it I was some what wrong, but humans did change things, like if the Original Manuscripts were from Gods chosen people why don't the christians celebrate the sabbath on Friday evening to Saturday evening like the Jews, or why do people celebrate Christ's birthday on christmas when there's no where in the Bible that says thats when His birthday was. It doesn't really say anywhere in the Bible that I've read that is, When Jesus was born, if you can tell me where it does say in the Bible when Jesus was born then I'll be more then happy to look and see and say I'm wrong. "Oh just to let you know, I'm really enjoying this conversation."


The Sabbath was one of many foreshadowings of Christ (who is God) and was fulfilled by Him. Thats why. Thats also why most of the Jewish festivals are not celebrated by Christians. They are part of the old covenant between God and the Jews. Like the sacrificing of animals. Christ's crucification was its fulfillment. Please read the whole of the New Testament throughly.

Christmas isn't a Biblically mandated holiday, so whither or not you celebrate it is a matter of choice. I celebrate the Birth on Christmas day as a matter of tradition. Don't see what that has to do with this debate though.
PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 8:48 pm


Look, religions has always had bad house keepers and a even worse filing system. Things get lost, or they change. can we just stop talking about it

So who here knows what ever happened with the Gatchaman live action movie? (also known as G-force: Guardians of space and Battle of the Planets)

I saw it on a Starz special on anime, they shows stuff on the live action speed racer movie and the up coming (if not already here) astroboy movie.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 10:45 pm


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Look, religions has always had bad house keepers and a even worse filing system. Things get lost, or they change. can we just stop talking about it

So who here knows what ever happened with the Gatchaman live action movie? (also known as G-force: Guardians of space and Battle of the Planets)

I saw it on a Starz special on anime, they shows stuff on the live action speed racer movie and the up coming (if not already here) astroboy movie.

Religion isn't the only one like that. Atheism and even Law in various countries and states happen to be that way as well. No one group is exempt from that. Although there's a lot that's happened because of the corruptness of the Catholic Church, which is one of the reasons why we have Christmas in December, and why many of the traditions stem from pagan's Winter Solstice festivals.

Interestingly enough, gift giving and charity was a system invented by the rich to keep the poor people from rioting in the streets. AGAIN. It's been working great ever since in our country!
PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 1:32 am


Yami Takashi
Look, religions has always had bad house keepers and a even worse filing system. Things get lost, or they change. can we just stop talking about it

So who here knows what ever happened with the Gatchaman live action movie? (also known as G-force: Guardians of space and Battle of the Planets)

I saw it on a Starz special on anime, they shows stuff on the live action speed racer movie and the up coming (if not already here) astroboy movie.


Nonsense, you have no evidence for that, not to mention there is evidence contrary to that statement. Unless you can come up with some don't interject like you actually know something Yami. I believe we've had problems with you doing that before.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 1:52 am


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Look, religions has always had bad house keepers and a even worse filing system. Things get lost, or they change. can we just stop talking about it

So who here knows what ever happened with the Gatchaman live action movie? (also known as G-force: Guardians of space and Battle of the Planets)

I saw it on a Starz special on anime, they shows stuff on the live action speed racer movie and the up coming (if not already here) astroboy movie.

Religion isn't the only one like that. Atheism and even Law in various countries and states happen to be that way as well. No one group is exempt from that. Although there's a lot that's happened because of the corruptness of the Catholic Church, which is one of the reasons why we have Christmas in December, and why many of the traditions stem from pagan's Winter Solstice festivals.

Interestingly enough, gift giving and charity was a system invented by the rich to keep the poor people from rioting in the streets. AGAIN. It's been working great ever since in our country!


Actually, Jews and Christians over millennia have taken great care that the words of God be preserved through written language. If any of you actually did some research you would see that. True, during a long stretch of time things were corrupted by the Catholic Church, but the Word wasn't one of them nor was any of it lost, rather the Catholic Church refused to let the scriptures fall into the hands of the common person so that they would not be able to refute their corrupted teachings. But that was rectified during the 1500s through the protestant reformation, when scripture was taken and translated into many languages throughout the world. Nothing was lost, everything that was in the Christian New Testament Canon since the day it was canonized is still in there and has the original manuscripts by which to check it against.
PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 4:29 am


actually none of teh original manuscripts survive ninja teh oldest ish a fragment of a copy from around 120 A.D. 3nodding teh majority of teh complete manuscripts date from teh 5th century ninja that ish not to say that they are not accurate just that they are not original 3nodding

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 4:47 am


Momiji Akiko
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*From the depths of the dark, a figure appears*

Geeze it's a maze down there...

*has been hanging out in one of his other guilds and forgot to look in this one...*


I spent all this time away and you still haven't improved your sense of fashion, Mono blaugh

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 9:51 am


New question does anybody know where I can find,
Ancient Katanan swords?
hahaha rofl

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 12:42 pm


Nerada
New question does anybody know where I can find,
Ancient Katanan swords?
hahaha rofl

Well actually there are people who will make you a Katana in the style of the old ways, except even BETTER using more modern technologies and materials...

Also I would like to say that while Pirates ARE awesome as a rule...Mono has now become one of the first exceptions to that rule. You make Pirates FAIL Mono! crying crying
PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 4:20 pm


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actually none of teh original manuscripts survive ninja teh oldest ish a fragment of a copy from around 120 A.D. 3nodding teh majority of teh complete manuscripts date from teh 5th century ninja that ish not to say that they are not accurate just that they are not original 3nodding


Biblical Manuscripts: (note: these are individual manuscripts)
Author, Date Written, Earliest Copy, Time Span
Magdalene Ms (Matthew 26), 1st century, 50-60 AD, co-existent (?)
John Rylands (John), 90 AD, 130 AD, 40 years
Bodmer Papyrus II (John), 90 AD, 150-200 AD, 60-110 years
Chester Beatty Papyri (N.T.), 1st century, 200 AD, 150 years
Diatessaron by Tatian (Gospels), 1st century, 200 AD, 150 years
Codex Vaticanus (Bible), 1st century, 325-350 AD, 275-300 years
Codex Sinaiticus (Bible), 1st century, 350 AD, 300 years
Codex Alexandrinus (Bible), 1st century, 400 AD, 350 years

Perhaps not the very originals but not far from them, none the less, they are the same since before Canonization. And the likely hood any of them could have been changed before then and not be noticed would be next to impossible.

For more Info on the subject and also where I found the reference click here.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 4:52 pm


Momiji you idiot.

You are always trying to act like people are uneducated and don't know what they're talking about. All because you have some religious or debate inspired superiority complex.

multiple years of Jesus' life is up to question, and so are years after. Half the time Jesus is made out to be the son of god, half the time He's made out to be god. One time I even heard a old lady say he was to be god's successor when judgment day comes. We have records dating to 10,000 BC China that are more complete and accurate then records from an event 2,000 years ago that are meant to record the life of the most important man in multiple sects of religions.

There are alternate version to everything. Even religious songs have different versions in both lyrics and titles. Example the Cherry Tree song/ The Cherry Tree Carol. One passage makes it seem man and woman were made together, the other says woman was made from man's rib. Thus that lead to Lilith being brought in as Adam's first wife.

For one thing I am not a fool, I am a logical thinking human being who keeps God in my mind, but not in my mouth. I might not go to church every Sunday, but I keep true to the teaching I learned as a kid. I don't go out to commit crime, or do harm to others.

As for research, I don't need to do research because I've observed enough holes in the canon and how each person tells the same story during my life to see things are lost or left to interpretation.

If you had any sense you would know A drop of water could change the whole meaning of a word on paper or stone, thus leaving man to fill in the blank when he finds a warn down stone tablet in a language he's not use to or may not be around anymore. If my memory serves me right, when it comes to war or a new reign of power, the written word is the first to fall victim. In the days of the Roman empire they invaded and burned the cultural materials of where they invaded. Throughout the fourth and fifth centuries, after Christianity became the official religion of the Roman Empire, heresies and opposition to Christianity frequently led to the burning of books. When Mao Zedong came into power, he had ancient writings and books destroyed.

Human nature causes us to implement our own desires to shape the world and others into what we want. That's why every religion, even those related to Christianity are separated by differences in how they are worshiped. If someone doesn't like the exact path their religion is going, they either form a new one or modify theirs to best benefit them.

Let me explain somethings about how man ******** up everything he touches, and how religion and its followers ends up being the biggest victim.

Religion and the rules of religion; when not written down is only an idea or ideas, and ideas can change and/or be put into people's heads. When it is written down, then the idea takes on a new form. However, anything that is written by man is left to the interpretation and those who read it. A man might hear the word of god, but the word of god the man may not be writing.

The Roman Catholic Church itself is guilty of manipulating what people think is the word of god over many years and events. They manipulated man's fear of eternal damnation for the weak willed, and threatened the livelihood and even lives of those who would not bend.

All this was to strengthen its own power and even undermined or rule establish governments. Look what the Roman Catholic Church did to Galileo Galilei. He was a brilliant man who was decades beyond his time. They trialed him for defying the church and saying that everything doesn't revolve around the earth. They destroyed his life and placed him under house arrest until the day he died. They banned his book, and tried to stifle the science behind it all.

Religion is ran by man, not god, and like god is what man has always wanted since the consumption of the fruit. The serpent even promised Eve that their (adam and eve) eyes would be open, and they would know what it was like to be god. To run and change religion is to be God in a sense.

Speaking of god and the serpent, with most religions you have to fear both the god(s) and the devil(s). With Christianity there is god and there is the devil. It's God's wrath that is to be feared as well as the devil's temptations and deceit.

An example of God's wrath is when God cast the devil to hell for defying him. We learn that we either go to God in heaven (paradise) when we die or we go to the devil in hell.

Here's a little something to roll in your head.

In the story of Adam and Eve, the Garden of Eden was paradise like no living man has known since Adam. When Adam and Eve ate the fruit they were cast from the paradise known as Eden as punishment. If God cast the devil from paradise to the depths Hell for defying him, and he had Adam and Eve defy him, then that could mean he also sent them to hell when he cast them from Eden (paradise). After all some depictions of the serpent in the garden identify him as Satan. God did also curse man with toil and woman pain. Hell is a place where we're to be tortured with agonizing pain and toil for all time.

Didn't you ever compare the punishment of the devil and the punishment of Adam and Eve (and the serpent)? They lived in paradise, they defied god, they were cast from paradise.

We're taught the stories of the Bible as separate events, but whose to say which order they happen, If heaven is a different paradise then Eden and if they truly are separate events. Its all left to the interpretation of man, and man's willingness to believe the interpretation of others. After all we're taught a serpent talked to a woman made from a rib, and we're taught animals can't and never could talk. Somewhere we have to believe the preacher or the biologist more then the other.

Now everyone stop talking about religion, and Momiji fall off that horse.
PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 4:57 pm


The new tenchi alternate universe series is something i look forward too. though i would like to see tench finally get with someone.

I'm also glad to see that Scifi picked up the second season of Gundam 00

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 5:11 pm


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Nerada
New question does anybody know where I can find,
Ancient Katanan swords?
hahaha rofl

Well actually there are people who will make you a Katana in the style of the old ways, except even BETTER using more modern technologies and materials...

Also I would like to say that while Pirates ARE awesome as a rule...Mono has now become one of the first exceptions to that rule. You make Pirates FAIL Mono! crying crying

I'm sorry let me rephrase, I mean on Gaia I saw them on someone and I can't find them in any of the shops.
PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 5:11 pm


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Momiji you idiot.

You are always trying to act like people are uneducated and don't know what they're talking about. All because you have some religious or debate inspired superiority complex......


You are uneducated on most of the things you speak about in debates with me, as well as this one.. Wow, so now I have a superiority complex? Oh, and I guess you're a psychiatrist now too? Just because I like to use facts in a debate and hates when others just use uneducated or ignorant guesses means I have a superiority complex.

Also, a logical thinking human being who keeps God on his mind wouldn't go chasing after married women and lesbians, so spare me.

And here since you don't like the answers I give you anyway. A link to answer your questions and ignorant statements. For every claim Christianity makes and the reasons for them go there. Its better then me having to waste my whole day answering you. And seriously, you have a question about Christianity, go there for they can answer your questions far better then I can anyway.

And don't confuse Catholic claims with Christian claims for the site doesn't defend a majority of the Catholic Church's claims because there is no evidence for them.

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