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I don't know that Athena and Poseidon are in any sense rivals, but Athena is a warrior goddess of wisdom who prides herself on chastity (she'd be the goddess of chastity but Artemis already had dibs). The fact that she'd get married at all, much less have a litter of daughters, seems QUITE unlikely. Although Triton isn't Poseidon, he's the son of Poseidon. And actually, Triton is the foster parent of Athena (possibly only in Hesiod? But still, there is no alternative myth where they shack up. There are no myths where Athena EVER shacks up). There are a great myriad of sea deities out there, and Triton in Greek mythology probably is married (because all Greek deities who aren't young men and/or eternal virgins just seem to be), so why they suggestively pair him with his chaste foster daughter I do not know.

Yea I didn't have any situation with my brother like that at all. I think I just reasoned that I was a girl, so I needed a favorite girl. So if I couldn't like main girls, like in Peter Pan, I'd fixate on someone like Tiger Lily. Who honestly wasn't enough of a presence to have a true preference one way or the other for, but whatever. Tink grew on me eventually, but I've never liked Wendy (my dislike of Wendy is probably why Tinkerbell was able to grow on me in the first place). But if I really didn't like a character than whatever. I didn't like a lot of main characters in several things, like Aladdin. I liked Jafar, Iago and the tiger. razz

Abigail and Edgar weren't enough drama for me, so it was either Russel, or that other mouse she meets and get all blushy about and Russel gets all miffed about it (that moment is probably what influenced that pairing for me).

Yea I've never seen Little Nemo, but maybe I'll hunt it down someday, if I ever have time.

I think it was just at the end Merlin goes away and Arthur now has this whole weight of responsibility, of giving up his old life, friends, beliefs, and having to accept this heavy responsibility. I just know it won't be the same youthful adventure for him anymore. I think for me it's the greatest instance of (implied) change in any of the movie's I liked in childhood. So I think that's where the loss came in for me.

Haha, it's ok. I got that it wasn't meant to be anti-procreation propaganda. I don't think as a child though I gave a second though to having children because cartoon/movie characters grew up to have children. I didn't feel it was a message. Just that my favorite characters were now boring, responsible adults...and that was boring. razz

No Poseidon and Neptune are the same (Poseidon = Greek, Neptune = Roman). Most of the Roman God's are planets (Save for Gaia and Uranus being Greek). Jupiter = Zeus, Mars = Ares, Pluto = Hades (Hades is not a planet! xd ), Venus = Aphrodite, Mercury = Hermes, Saturn = Cronus, Neptune = Poseidon. Anyhow I know nothing about Poseidon and Athens in regards to mythology, but they are two of the closest Gods to Zeus (Poseidon his brother he didn't shunt into the underworld, Athena his sorta motherless daughter), which make any strong rivalry between them seem unlikely. Triton would I guess also be Athena's cousin, in addition to foster parent. I mean there is a competitive streak between several God's, because Greeks in general are a competitive people (and thus competitor/rival wouldn't have the same analogy of "enemy" that we'd associate in similar contexts), but aside from a lot of marital spats, there aren't too many rivalries in our sense of the term between the Gods. Well, between the Olympians. I mean yea you have Titans versus Olympians (who are still all one family), but not so much Olympians versus each other. I mean don't let Hercules fool you, there isn't really a Hades versus the Olympians quarrel either. The Greeks feared and detested him because of his association with death (Greeks were all about life, the greatest thing was to be alive), but that didn't mean he had any issues with his immortals, or with his kingdom. Again all his drama comes in the form of marital spats as well. Although it's a bit vague on exactly how Hades and Persephone got along. More like, she missed her mommy and didn't exactly love the underworld. razz

Haha, is Simon the oldest brother? Because I did like him too. Captain Hook, Simon and Tiger Lily...and later Tink. Mr. Smee, well, I guess I never particularly liked the rotund comic characters as a child. But yea I was never compelled to like main characters, particularly with TV series, but then that ended up transferring into how I viewed movies as well. I think when I was really little I did, which is probably why I liked Ariel more then than I do now, and a lot of why I probably dislike Sleeping Beauty, Cinderella and Snow White is because I just could not like any of the main characters.

Ahh see I love Ron and Hermione. I like the tension that those kind of pairings have. Pairings that are just sappy and nice bore me to tears. Which is probably why I only have unhealthy relationships/attractions. Because I absolutely can't stand nice and normal. stressed Which other mouse? That mouse wasn't perfect, he was awkward and embarrassing himself. I think up until the trio showed up the fact that he was busy getting his a** handed to him by the main squirrel guy will forever keep him out of the category of a perfect character. But again I didn't like the other mouse (other than his causing jealousy) precisely because he was that awkward sweet character and they had their awkward blushing moment and it was just sappy.

I don't even remember the parts with the witch. I think I mostly just remember the beginning and the end. Which is probably why I have such the jarring contrast of emotions in my head. Because generally journey movies leave you in a very different place at the end, and if I can't remember the journey all I can recall is the abrupt change. I'll have to re-watch it again someday.

I always knew he wasn't Poseidon, Triton actually is a merman. I remember the olive tree being why Athena is the patron to Athens, but I don't think it led to any huge divide. I mean Athena and Poseidon don't often interact, but I don't think there is any sense of actual discord. I mean the Gods are fighting and competing all the time. The bitter feelings last only about the length of the competition, and then you move on to the next myth and it's as if it never happened.

Pretty sure he's Simon and the younger brother is John. And yea the lack of character personality is the majority of why I didn't like those movies. Because it's not like the other princess movies don't hop onto a similar story theme/vein. But they flesh out the characters so it makes it more enjoyable. Granted the other movies are older, I think Snow White was the first princess movie, it's definitely pretty ancient.

Well Once Upon a Forest is about kids, and that's probably the only love that you are going to have between kids that actually reflects that isn't creepy. And Hermione and Ron did start off that way, but I feel their relationship grew in accordance with their personalities. They are definitely the most believable couple in the series (not counting things pre-established before the series started), which also probably has them more in my favor. I mean all Harry's relationships are crap. Tonks and Lupin, while I have nothing against them, just come out of nowhere with no build up. Fleur and Bill never seem to establish any sort of believable affinity. Hermione is one of my favorite characters, but she does annoy the hell out of me, and I think a lot of what does irk me about her and Ron kinda stems to irritations with personality, which of course would permeate a believable relationship. But yea I'm pretty sure you are thinking of the squirrel (who definitely does not flirt with Abigail, he just picks on the other mouse who thinks she's cute and blushes when she falls on him).

Ok I went and read a synopsis and when reading about how Merlin defeated Madam Mim (the witch) that's when I remembered her, although the synopsis doesn't say anything about a familial relation between her and Merlin, but idk. It's probably more towards the end of the movie but it's not the end, because that's all about the tournament and when Arthur becomes king. The witch is during Arthur's "training." Anyhow I need to watch this again because I barely remember it.

Haha, yea I haven't read those, and I've heard they are decent, but I wouldn't necessarily expect historical accuracy (historical in accordance to ancient beliefs that is, won't get into the realm of historical in terms of event). Most mythological adaptions these days don't actually delve into the roots of mythology, which sometimes annoys me. It really annoyed me with Troy, mainly because there had been a made for TV movie around the same time that was so much better in terms of actually representing that story. It was clearly not the huge Hollywood-esque production, but it had the substantially better plot and casting. So while I always make fun of hipsters, I still kinda resent Troy for being too mainstream. xd 300, which I've actually read several bits of the actual Ancient Greek text, actually didn't do a bad job though as far as a representing antiquity goes. Some minor alterations, a bit of overacting, some gratuitous nudity for the sake of nudity. I could deal with that.

Yea, I was pretty sure it was but was too lazy to look it up so didn't want to just say it.

I think with Ron and Hermione they evolved with their age, I mean - save for the very end of the book - they never get any older than 18. They have the typical middle school flirtation evolved into the teenage high school angst romance. And the believability of that evolution gave me enough to ignore the annoying bits of angst that are just canon to real life HS relationships (oh God still trying to suppress the years in which my friends started to date, the horror, THE HORROR!!) and just focus on the meat of what was between them. Generally my own imaginings with that pairing would sort of morph towards a future beyond those phases. The difference between Ron and Hermione and a pairing like Bella and Edward, for me, is that they never jump into this pretense of "true love" and it's "so real." That's what I can't stand about teenage romances. Because that's just bullshit, and if smart people are just THAT deluded, it's too much. Plus their relationship is kinda exactly how I am with guys I like myself, years and years of flirting around each other, annoyed that they keep screwing up, but too afraid to do anything about it ourselves.

Yea Arthur is at her house for some reason, Mim almost kills him, Merlin shows up and fights her, and then Merlin and Arthur go off to the tournament (the winner of which would have been to decide the new king since nobody had ever managed to pull out that darn sword) and that's the last plot thread. Witch is probably second to last, because she's not exactly related to resolving Arthur. I now also remember how that managed to conclude, I think Kay needed a new sword, his broke (Arthur was his squire). So Arthur runs off frantically trying to find one, and he pulls the sword out of the stone. When everyone realizes what sword he had they are like wtf?!? Some people challenge it and are like no he didn't! So they make him do it again, and they are like, well duh it's already come out! But then once it goes back in the stone nobody else can pull it out either, nobody else but Arthur. So thus he is going to be king, and it's going to be a huge change from his orphan roots, and he has a mini panic attack because wtf, he can't be king? But yea, I still need to watch it again.

I realize that I started Okane ga Nai and never finished it now that you've said that, now I barely remember what I did read, suppose I'll have to start over eventually. 300 was pretty gay, heh.

I like both types of romances from time to time. I mean things like Ron and Hermione are things I like in series but aren't things I'd be much interested in fantasizing about outside of it. I just enjoy it in contexts. Although I wouldn't say more adult romances are unrealistic, they are just to their context as well. Generally the things I'm interested in outside of series confines are usually love/hate relationships, not to an unbelievable extent, but I think my preference for non-con tends to push me wanting the more contrasted relationship types.

Yea you brought it up in the guild where we met, and then I down loaded it a year later (though I think it wasn't until rereading posts in that guild later that I remembered you even brought it up). I don't think it was finished when I downloaded it either which I think is part of why I didn't start it, because I was already frustrated with other in progress series that didn't have consistent update patterns. However I haven't checked for more since then, and that was probably at least two years ago. So hopefully there is more/it is finished. Hopefully I'll be able to get back to it eventually.

I think strictly to canon Ron and Hermione would probably not be one of my favorite relationships either, because I don't really like huffy, whiny relationships. But my fantasy life won't allow me to contain them to canon, so there is more depth to them than is probably serialized, and it is probably a realistic amount of depth that would exist canon even if it doesn't. I think if there were better relationships in HP this wouldn't have happened for me, but because there aren't I took the best and ran with it.

Haha, anything exciting happen with Lady Gaga? Two nights ago I dreamt about Jason Voorhees (hockey mask wearing hatchet murderer from the Friday the 13th franchise)...as a zombie. Let's combine my fear of impossible to kill serial killers with my absolutely irrational, but highly problematic zombie phobia. Probably the horror serial killer that scares me the most...is now trying to eat me. Needless to say that was BAD times and I did not wake up in a very good mental state. ~_~

Yea, let me know if it is. I'll probably just keep it to the back burner for now if it's still in progress - or worse, on hiatus (definite or indefinite). I'm really annoyed with Loveless atm. Volume 9 came out in Japan but never in the US. And then nothing more seems to have been done in Japan (when last I checked, I think over Christmas) since, and that was a couple of years ago. I guess I'll have to dig further for more info, but I really don't wanna know, it'll probably upset me.

I definitely have fantasy pairings as well, but usually with books I have canon interests as well (even if my interest doesn't stay canon). Although a lot with HP is you know of relationships between characters (like Sirius and Lupin) but you don't actually see much of it, so they don't always intrigue me as much. Plus I think I realize unless it's canon I don't ever get into the friend pairings anyhow. My fantasy pairings tend to get more into the violent/non-con side of things. I am a horrible person. sweatdrop

Haha, aww.

Last night I had another zombie dream (after a dream where I was at an amusement park constantly being texted by my friend who wanted me to visit her at work, that was just weird) so ugh. This one wasn't so bad though, I wasn't in it. It was more like watching a movie. A man and wife were both zombies and yet not always? They went back and forth on trying to kill/eat each other. It was odd and very illogical.

Haha, it is DEFINITELY always the BL manga, the world is out to get us. crying

I do tend to like friend relationships a lot, though rarely het ones (another reason H + R are weird for me). Totally get into bromance type things. At the talent comp at con yesterday there was a duo doing a bromance skit from Metal Gear Solid, Snake is the only character I know from that series so I can't really recall who the other person was. Think they wear a lab coat though. Anyhow they had a skit bit and then sang a version of the Guy Love song from Scrubs (obviously replacing names and certain bits, like Snake taking out a bullet rather than an appendix). It was really amazing, and they won the group award. This girl playing the violin one solo, and that was no surprise, she was damn amazing. I mean even in spite of the mistakes, because yes there were a few, though I dunno that anyone not musically trained would have gotten them. Anyhow getting off topic, yea. Blah blah blah. razz

Like Spy vs Spy? Heh, lol. One of my favorite artists on DA does Spy vs Spy stuff, she hasn't in awhile though, makes me sad. :'( Yea it wasn't as scary/disturbing for me as most of the zombie dreams I had, it was more like watching a movie, so I was ok with it.