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[Mr. Kennedy]

Hope discs don't go out of fashion so soon.

Ah gotcha. Alrighty then, sounds good to me. I'll definetly look into the PSP-4000, thanks Bio.  

[Biohazard EXTREME]

Well, as much as I prefer disc based games over the downloadable games, I'd take downloadable games over that "OnLive" crap any day.
I mean, I'm Russian, and even I'm against that level of communism. You buy a game, and then you stream it... You don't actually own the game. Your internet is bad, you're SOL.
I tell you one thing, I am NEVER streaming a game, and if this OnLive thing somehow monopolizes console games, then I'll never play games... New games I mean. Period. I am NOT buying a game that I have to stream. Never.  

[Mr. Kennedy]

That OnLive thing ******** terrified me when I saw it. Like you said, I won't feel like I own the game.  

[Biohazard EXTREME]

Yeah, so I'm never investing in that. Of course, by the time if fully flourishes (if it ever does, which I hope not) I'll probably be too busy to play games anyway.  

[MadamTarantula]

Mr. Kennedy

Hope discs don't go out of fashion so soon.

Ah gotcha. Alrighty then, sounds good to me. I'll definetly look into the PSP-4000, thanks Bio.

Same here, but hard drives are the future. At least when it comes to movies.  

[Biohazard EXTREME]

Hell no. I want my movies in HD with special features, which means 25 - 50 gigs of memory, a.k.a. a Blu-Ray Disc. I'm not gonna buy zillion terabyte hard drives just to store my movies on.  

[Biohazard EXTREME]

Well, I prefer Sony. Quite frankly as far as poster boys go, Mario is played out, and I'd prefer Kratos.

And... DS > PSP... By what Criteria, exactly?  

[Biohazard EXTREME]

Metroid and Star Fox are overrated. Star Fox 64 was the bomb, but after that, it kinda lost my interest. Zelda's still cool, but the N64 games still reign supreme, and nothing since then had the magic.
As for Mario, I retain my opinion. He's played out. Yes, he revolutionized, blah blah blah. You know, it's one thing to acknowledge something for things that it revolutionized, and it's another to worship it years and years later.
I mean, again, back to Survival Horror. Alone in the Dark revolutionized horror games, but people hardly consider it the best horror game around.

Before Kratos, Sony still had Jak & Daxter, and before that, they had Gabe Logan of Syphon Filter.

And yes, people buy Nintendo systems because of their games, but how many of those people actually bother checking whether the games are worth buying? I mean, if it's got Mario or Zelda in the title, they just buy it without thinking. That's fanboyism at its worst. You say Sony has a lot of Fanboys? Look at Nintendo.

Frankly, I don't care for the touch screen at all. In fact, touching the screen only pulls away from the immersion of the game. I'd rather have as little interference with the screen as possible, this includes my finger/stylus. Sure, there's some unique games, but that really doesn't matter to me. PSP has some great games, and for me to enjoy a game, it doesn't have to be like, pretentiously innovative or some crap like that.
Call me traditional, but frankly, I'd be happy if Survival Horror games til the end of time had pre-rendered backgrounds and tank controls. JRPGs would have random encounters, turn-based fights, world maps, etc.

Although.... That's mind boggling, really... The gaming industry is always obsessed with innovation, but they're still fixated on old characters like Mario and Pac Man. Yes, Mario was important, back in the day. But today, I want a little more than one dimensional characters with little to no storyline and character development.

See, you focus on what revolutionized a genre, I focus on what perfected it.
Like, Mario revolutionized 3D platformers, but frankly, even boing back to N64, games like Banjo Kazooie, were better than Mario 64. The gameplay was better, the storyline was better, the graphics were better, and it still had plenty of charm.  

[Elliot Salem]

I'm gonna go ahead and throw myself into the middle of this, effectively having all eyes on me, starting a huge war and then just letting s**t brew.
Okay...I'm not really serious, just making myself look like a jackass, because I have done that in the past. stressed

PS. All of this is one big opinion from me, so, don't jump my a** for it, or try to get into a huge debate.

Anyway,

Nintendo, is all honesty, and from a personal opinion, seems to focus more on Gameplay.

While Sony, derives more on Graphics and Story.

Mario has been around for awhile, and is just a mascot. But you don't play the games for a story. Each Mario game is just, well, just a game to play for fun. No competitiveness. No overly complex story that take multiple sequels to get all the answers.

Before I continue, ******** you Stranger (j/k). Syphon Filter was actually a fun game with an alright storyline. Kinda disappointed they switched to PSP. Anyway, that's besides the point.

Sony, their games focus on Graphics and storyline. There's nothing I can really add. Except, I don't rightly know who the true Mascot for Sony is. As the don't focus one one of few game series, unlike Nintendo, which has had the same 3 Mascots for years, Mario, Zelda and Metroid.
Anyway, before I go off on my ramblings, no matter what, they both beat the Xbox's mascot. ******** Master Chief. Worst. Mascot. EVER!

Quite frankly, neither game system if better. The DS is good in it's way, as is the PSP. To put it simply, arguing about which one is better, is pretty stupid, to me, atleast. As you two are focusing more on gameplay, and games, when you should be focusing on the technological aspects to truly determine, which one is better.  

[Biohazard EXTREME]

Thee Stranger

Oh, no the ******** you didn't! xd I will agree on Star Fox 64 being the best of the bunch, but the original was good too. The last few Star Fox games (particularly the Namco one) have been a little lackluster. But all of the Metorids have been good. They are not overrated. So that's all I got to say on that.

Metroid's a fine game. But it's pretty much just another first person shooter now. The only thing Metroid has that other FPS games don't is the ability to curl into a ball and roll around.

Thee Stranger

I am not worshiping anything. I respect the history. And when you compare what Nintendo has given to the industry in contrast to what Sony has given to the industry, Nintendo wins by a landslide. I'm sorry that I'm more inclined to give a higher amount of respect to originality, innovation and pioneering over simply retreading old ground well. Know the history. Respect the history.

Don't lecture me on history. I took gaming history in school. I know it, I respect it. But I have my opinion, and frankly, I think there are better platformers out there than Mario games, on other consoles. Ratchet and Clank is my favorite platformer right now. It's got great mechanics, great graphics, hilarious dialogue and a continuity. Mario games lack the latter two.

Thee Stranger

Fair game. But Syphon Filter is an awesome series. Have you played through it? Or have you even beaten a single SF game at all?

Thee Stranger

Dude... you're telling me you didn't buy MGS4 just the title? I did. Because I knew it was going to be a quality game. And look at that, it was. The same goes for Mario and Zelda. I have yet to play a bad Mario or Zelda game. There are certain things you know will be quality going in. If it's coming from Hideo Kojima or Shigeru Miyamoto, it's going to be a good game. Simple as that.

I didn't buy MGS4 because of just the title. I was following the title sing MGS1, what I wanted out of MGS4 more than anything is the storyline. One of MGS's biggest features is it's deeply woven storyline. And that's what I wanted out of MGS4, because I already know the characters, what happened to them, and I wanted to know how it would all conclude.
You beat a Zelda game, or a Mario game, that's pretty much it. It's not like you're playing a Mario game, and it leaves you on a big cliffhanger, and you say, "Man, I can't wait for the next one."
Sure it's fun. But my point is, MGS4 I bought because it has a storyline I was following.
Look at Final Fantasy for example. Each one is separate. All of them are quality games. But frankly, I haven't liked a Final Fantasy game since IX. I wasn't that impressed with X, X-2, XI is an MMO, XII kinda sucked, etc. etc. But it doesn't matter because they're all set in practically different universes.
I might get FFXIII, I might not. But I'm not gonna buy it just because of the title.

Thee Stranger

Well, that's your opinion. But how many DS games have you even played? Be honest. Pretentious? I don't think so. If anyone's pretentious, it's Sony. Nintendo has a lot of fanboys, yes. But in my personal experience, I find the Sony fanboys to be the most annoying.
I would also be happy if Survival Horror games had static backgrounds and tank controls until the end of time. I don't see what this has to do with anything...

I've played a few. And honestly, even games like New Super Mario Bros., yes it was fun for like, half an hour. After that, I was like, "Okay, I'm over it."
And if that's something you want our of your handheld game, that's fine.
I prefer something a bit more serious, and sure, DS has its share. But frankly, I'm not hearing too many good things about them. Like Assassin's Creed: Altair's Chronicles, I heard was pretty crappy.
The only thing the DS has going for it is many good JRPGs, but then the PSP isn't lacking in those either. Then you add things like God of War, Metal Gear, Syphon Filter, Ratchet and Clank, Dracula X Chornicles, Dead Hear Fred... There's a LOT of great PSP games, that people overlook, and I don't understand why.

Thee Stranger

Dude, you don't play Mario games for storyline and character development. Storyline is not intrinsic to a quality game; the gameplay is. If you can combine both, that's great, but Mario games are just good fun.

Sure, gameplay is the most important part of a game. But if I could choose between two games one being a Mario game which has good gameplay and graphics, and another like Jak & Daxter, which ALSO has great graphics and gameplay, but also has a good storyline to boot. Why shouldn't I pick the one with the good storyline?

Thee Stranger

Banjo Kazooie came years after Mario 64. Of course it was going to look and play better. Mario was a launch game. The same thing goes for AitD VS RE. Yes, RE was a better game. But it came four years after AitD, so it damn well better have been a better game. And there are still some little things where the original AitD shines over the original RE (better puzzles).

You just proved my point right there!
With games lie Alone in the Dark, it revolutionized... Practically CREATED the Survival Horror genre, but people remember RE, because it looked better, and was simply a better game.

So why is it, that Mario 64 gets so much praise for revolutionizing the 3D platformer, as opposed to games like Banjo Kazooie, which came later, but was better?

Frankly, if someone said, "What's the ONE platformer on the N64 that everyone MUST own?" I'd say Banjo Kazooie. With Conker's Bad Fur Day as the second. And if you're interested in sequels, I'd even say Banjo Tooie before I'd say Mario 64.  

[Alkaizer87]

Roght now it's the weekends so I won't post as much.  

[King of Paradise]

I would like to join this argument, but I wont...Too lazeh.

Anyways, the reason I came here was to announce who is going to play the new Freddy Kruger. Don't give me that Robert Englund is the only one bullshit, cause many people can make Freddy their own, just as he did. I mean, if he came second people would complain that the first person who played Freddy was the only one, so...Just enjoy the fact that there's going to be another movie. Anyways, ha ha, the new Freddy Kruger will be played by: Jackie Earle Haley, a.k.a. Rorschach, a.k.a. That foul mouthed biker kid from the Bad News Bears movies, a.k.a. RONNIE FROM LITTLE CHILDREN. If you're wondering why I capitalized that last part, it's because that's the role/movie that makes me happy that he is going to be the new Freddy. Here's to hoping that he can blow the s**t out of Robbie's Freddy! Cause damn am I'm tired of hearing that Robert is the only one...I want to be Freddy one day! gonk