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I feel your post is contradictory. You said Anzu is decent enough for now and then said you love Yuugi though not quite as much as Anzu. Or when you said Anzu that second time did you mean to say Honda?

I love the Black Magician Girl, which is probably why I was extra partial to Mana even before I met her.

Haha, I remember that, I know Pegasus and Spice World have come up before I just didn't remember the specifics.

Kaiba and his dorky glasses, hehehe.

Jaden had them, when he was...rapping? Too lazy to scroll down but I think it was during the rap. But it was clearly footage from some duel. I've never seen clips where his eyes light up like that before so I wasn't sure what the deal with that was.

YAY! Congrats on Japan. Oh that'll be fun, you'll have to tell us all about it. And take awesome pics of stuff. And buy billions of assorted flavors of Kit Kats. Oh yea and do the school thing too. xd

Pretty sure Zombie Fluxx would be very similar to regular Fluxx just with the joy of a theme. I tend to like those types of card games. They have an awesome social element to them that I like. Although I need to ask my friend what this one game he had is called because that one is really fun, and you might like it. It's more story telling. Like each player or team has a family and the goal is to make your family as miserable as possible before killing them off. So you do things to make other people's players happy and yours unhappy. Yes it's very morbid. But basically you just draw cards (that cause happiness, unhappiness or death - few other things) and play them accordingly. And you makeup a story while you do it. My friend was really funny, she didn't read her cards before starting her story. So she was placing a card down that says you get boils (-xx happiness) and said "Mrs. Blank was wandering in the kitchen when she tripped over the broom *glances down at her card* and got boils." Twas quite amusing.

Yea I don't think the Egyptian characters have enough depth (because they don't have enough coverage, on top of being in an arc that is too busy throwing a lot of plot at you) to fully begin with, definitely not to stretch the pairings, especially to characters they never have once encountered. I've liked art of like the three Yuugis, three Bakuras, or Set and Seto, but at the same time I don't know how intrigued trying to follow stories even along that vein.

Yea it definitely contributes to my dislike of Ginny I'll admit, though I disliked her pretty much from book 2, long before I would even bother to assume that's where that one was going. I don't hate HermionexHarry, but I LOVE Hermione and Ron together so no I could never really allow that. They do have their merits I know, but nope, Ron and Hermione were kinda obviously written for each other and I can't be pulled away from it.

Hahaha, I swear I wasn't rubbing that in! Just telling Hawk to go over there but letting her know that she won't find all, or even all major players, yet. It was more curtailing frustration and disappointment than a rub I swear! biggrin

((YEA MORGEY!!!)

That part kinda bugged me just more in that obviously Malik's Yami is in several ways more of a separate character than a personality, and that's why he doesn't exactly work right for me. Because of my low interest in Malik the discrepancies don't bother me so much, but then again that probably contributes to my low interest in Malik. Likewise, I don't think I can quite except Namu as a remaining third either. It kinda just felt, well lazy is the only way I can put it. Like the creator couldn't be bothered to deal with a plausible emotional reaction to the traumatic aftermath of the whole affair and just pretended it never happened. "I tried to kill you for no reason really, my bad...oh hey, check out my nifty tattoo! Isn't it cool? What do you mean painful memories, why would a tattoo be a negative thing?"

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Haha, mkay...sorry I was a bit out of it yesterday (and today) and so the obvious didn't hit me right away and I was just confused.

OOOOOOOH, weird. Hahahaha

Haha, one of my best friends will be so jealous. Take pictures of the green tea Kit Kats so I can send them to her and she can be like WAAAAAAAAH!!

Yea, I'll go message my friend now before I forget again... xd

Exactly.

When she was young she was an obsessive stalker geek who only liked Harry because he was famous (she didn't know anything else) and that was just annoying. People should like people for who they are not because they are famous! She really only dated like two people, and she was with one for a year and the other for a year and a half so she wasn't really "fooling" around so much as dating. However I do agree with the change of personality - in that she got really stuck up and full of herself, for again doing almost nothing except bossing her brother and/or Harry around, and feeling bad a** snapping at Hermione about sports. That's when I really couldn't stand her.

Ok fine, you caught me. (No really I swear I didn't!!!)

Haha, oh ok. I shall again reiterate REALLY out of it and thus TOTALLY thought you were serious, haha. Now I feel dumb. Oye I need to start sleeping more. ~_~

rofl

Okay, I'll take a picture. XD

I totally agreed she shouldn't have liked Harry for being famous, but she was, what, 12? I could put it past her at that age and just assume she had the little girl 'boyband' type crush. It was stupid, cute, and innocent, which does not necessarily equal a character I like a lot or respect, but one I didn't mind. And I don't think she was actually acting like a whore, but the character change of that magnitude definitely reminded me of seeing that happen with friends. XD Too much change for my taste, with nothing in between 'sweet and stupid' and 'bitchy and smartass.'

Nuuu... XD;; There should be a 'joking' font.

Awesome, thank you!

And Settlers of Catan is relatively fun, but once again, a bit too competitive for my tastes.

@Kits - Yea but she never moved believably past that in her liking him. Her entire relation to him was in his hero status, so it always bugged me. I don't like geeky 12 year olds (like the crushing on boy band type) to begin with. There aren't too many things were I actually like the little sister character, it's a type that's just too...annoying. However yea her shift to "strong and independent" just came off as annoying. Definitely summed up as bitchy and smartass. Her and the guys thing didn't bother me at all, it wasn't that element. It was the cocky thing that I couldn't stand.

There should be, heck, there should just be different fonts in general, that I don't have to go find code or something for. Too much work if that is an option.

You're Welcome.

Games have to be somewhat competitive for me to have an interest in them. I have this button that says playing is half the fun, the other half is winning (something like that). For me there has to be an element of win, rather than just complete. Games like Settlers I like because they have that self-goal completion thing that can be satisfying even if you aren't winning, but they do have the competitive drive to make it actually something to play and not just an activity for me.

@Hawk - Got to the other thread before this. Pandora's name is Arcana, though idk about spelling. Pandora and Pegasus are kinda similar in story, so kinda picking the one sorta mentions the other. I don't know who I find "pathetic." I mean sorry Hawk, but I find Malik pretty pathetic. I find a lot of the minor characters like Rex and Haga pathetic (though I still love Rex, so I'm not going to say pathetic is a bad thing always). I mean most of the villains are pathetic. It's kind of a quality of villainy, when you have a cut and dry role of heroism. You don't have a question of whose really the bad guy, so the reasoning of the bad guy is obviously flawed, and thus, pathetic. Especially if there is reasoning. Pegasus had a plan that was kinda crazy but it wasn't a rationale on thought, it was just he's going to do this and gets what he wants. Malik had zero end game, it was just blind revenge (without even a very good cause, but you can argue that away to what he believes I suppose) and not having an end game, not having a real point, is pathetic. But again, pathetic isn't the worst thing. Sometimes pathetic characters are adorable and amusing if not substantial or merited. So I suppose in calling someone pathetic it depends on what qualifications you are trying to make here. And most of the characters who aren't pathetic are assholes, and some are both. So really, there are far worse things to be than pathetic in the YGO-verse.

Yea I never finished the manga so I'm not sure how that turned out. The anime, one of the few series where I like the anime better, has much more character depth. So the manga end in theory might not be as offensive, because it might not be deep enough to reflect as big a change as the anime did.

I think for a little kid a tattoo would actually be a traumatic experience. Plus it wasn't just the carving but everything it represented to him and everything he was going to have to take on, everything he'd have to give up. So yea, I can actually understand the depth of that being traumatic. A lot of split personality is associated with physical or sexual abuse in childhood. What is not believable is BAM, instant separate personality 100% formed within minutes. They do not just appear like that, and to that degree. Malik's split isn't a correct split, they literally create another character and just call it a personality. So it's not right, and that's what bothers me. The cause, plausible, very. The how, fantastically incorrectly executed.

As for going back, home is home. Even with terrible memories. I mean Stockholm syndrome is one example of how we attach to the terrible. We have to, to cope. So staying alone in a foreign land versus returning to what is familiar actually doesn't make much sense. Besides he's technically a minor, he could never get a visa to do that. Getting really hard up on the logic here, haha. That all aside, going home with his family made the most sense, ya know, to recover. Too bad he was magically healed and didn't need to do that. That part was bull s**t.

I always disliked most of the main characters, however Jou grew on me eventually, and then I used to really love Yami Yuugi but that dwindled down to like with bouts of annoyance. Never have liked Anzu or Honda or Yuugi, though their roles are fine and I wouldn't want them gone. I think I've learned to tolerate characters more over the years, and my hierarchy shifted, but other than Jou probably making a huge leap, not much has changed. Although I do acknowledge that had I read the beginning of the manga or watched season 0 first, Seto, my favorite, would have been horrible to me. So I'm glad I didn't, because I do love him. I started watching the show probably towards the middle to end of Duelist Kingdom. The douche threat of suicide on it's own wasn't enough to make me despise him.

I actually like most Inuyasha characters, including Naraku. Actually I adore Naraku. Not that I'm pulling for him, but it doesn't make me dislike him. Though I didn't like him as Onagumo. I think the only character I really hate is Shippo. And Myouga (the flea). Also the sister is named Kaede, remembered that later.

Haha, I couldn't care less about his name, but Voldemort is pathetic - and in no good way. Which is a shame, because Tom Riddle I do like, he was so promising. But he grew up to be a pathetic loser douche. Shame.

Hahaha, all the threads get off topic eventually. Everyone says what they think about the characters and then tangents eventually take over. I haven't been on any in awhile, there haven't been in any new ones in awhile, so I couldn't tell you specifically how that happened. Would make sense for Keith though *snicker*. They get back on topic when someone new chimes in and they'll probably fall off eventually unless someone ever manages to come up with an infinite amount of new things to say on one character, not likely. I think most people probably post without going back and reading the pages and pages (if that many exist) that came before. I certainly haven't read back through too much of what exists before I became active in the guild (I've been in this for years I think, but I really only started posting about a year and a half ago).

I can't really say I think a main character should share the spot light. Usually their prevalence is why I get bored or annoyed with main characters. But that's what makes them main. If my favorite characters were main I probably wouldn't like them as much either. Being main you get more depth on them, you get more to maybe like, but you get just as much more to dislike. As much as I always want more of my favorite characters, they probably wouldn't be my favorite if they got it.

I'll have to watch that later, watching Bones right now and then going to pass out. Pretty tipsy right now as well, so not necessarily the best time for me to focus on or think about anything.

Sorry you can't find a female psychiatrist, that isn't cool. Are you from a more cut off area? I'm from the bay area in CA (near SF) so that's not a problem I've known anyone to have to deal with, because their is an abundance of everything. I can't imagine the hardship of not being able to get the doctors you feel comfortable with because of availability.

Well, as far as traditional psychology goes, it's no more plausible. There is no justification for it, other than artistic license. And fine, artistic license exists for a reason. Art mediums like film and television are constricted to a time frame. Doesn't make me like it anymore. I'd rather be shown time jumps then have everything magically happen in impossible moments. It just does not work that way. Yami Marik isn't even a personality, he's a separate character, and that's what bothers me.

As for your reason, that's not a real reason, you can have the feeling, but you can't make it a logical reason. And for me everything has to come down to logic not bias and feelings. And sorry I think I stated on the dream thread I'm kinda drunk right now, so while I'm sure I'll regret not phrasing things nicer tomorrow, right now meh, just trying to get through my thoughts. Malik is a little s**t, just as much as the pharaoh, so if the pharaoh deserves the hate and abuse so does he. Hell Malik WANTS the spot light more than Atemu, who doesn't really give a damn about that and doesn't ever ask for it the way Malik does. He's a brat who can't deal with his own pain in an adult matter. Sure, he's not an adult, but I don't forgive people for their teenage brain excuses, psychology be damned. They're all damn jerks and dorks, and I can't justify one more than the other. But I'm kinda going to always side with the guy who doesn't torture and kill people to get his way, because I'll never support those guys. Heroes are boring and annoying, villains are assholes and stupid. This is why I always love the anti-hero. Despite all their flaws, they at least aren't as bad as the other two.

I wasn't trying to say his reasons weren't real, I'm basically just talking about psychology here. That's pretty much the only point I'm trying to make, my problem isn't with his history or how he thinks or any of that. It's with the way it was done. So my problem isn't with Malik it's with the creators/writers. He was done wrong, and it bugs me. I mean yes he could have been believably written for things to turn out mainly the way they did. It just wasn't done believably, which makes it look illogical and hard to buy. That's my only problem with it. I mean one of the things we were talking about in a class was the frame work to a story, the details you don't notice - and if the writing is good, aren't supposed to notice. You aren't supposed to question the logic of the world. The writers had a lot of good parts but they got the logic - the glue that holds it together believably - wrong. It's essentially a cartoon, essentially for children, so obviously there is no requirement for them to get the details right at the level I'd require to "not" notice the details and fall into the logic of the world. The world is inconstant and unstable, and Malik isn't the only example of that he's just the easiest one.

Anyhow I don't want you to think differently about Malik, he's a fun character. It's the multiple personality thing that bothers me, because it's not done text book correctly. My parents both went into psychiatry, I started to until I realized it would drive me insane and I'd rather take a more round about way (writing) of dealing with psyche. So honestly it's probably not even so much the world is even that hard to buy to the normal person. I just have a bit more information that makes me a harder audience to sell too. It's why I don't usually like stories that introduce a psychology element. I like pure unexplained crazy, sure, because it's entertaining. But any attempt to start to understand the crazy, to make it psychological, I start to get annoyed and it ruins the story for me. Because unless someone really takes the time to do the research to make things at least slightly plausible, they usually do it wrong.

So yea I wasn't trying to bag on Malik last night. Mostly I was just trying to get at how multiple-personality bugs me.

Although I guess the only thing is your extreme hatred of Atemu/Yami no Yuugi made me feel the need to defend him. Just because honestly anything you can apply to him you can apply to any character. He just gets it worse because he is the main character, he's there the most. And the entire universe and story is based around him. I mean we only know little pieces of Malik, if he was there more, who knows how much you'd like him. They might turn him into this "spot light hogging" rambling on and on character until you just want him to go away. Like Atemu, because yup, I totally want Atemu to go away half the time. But if he did, then I'd start resenting the people in his place. The best thing about non-star characters is the mystery. You take that away from them and who knows how likable they remain. I mean I think of the friends I have who like main characters. They aren't all that into character depth, which is why the main characters can't annoy them, and they are just involved with what's in their face. People who like depth and twist and all that darker mysterious underside tend to not like main characters. As much as we want to see them more, it would ruin them. I mean God is a great analogy actually. A huge aspect of God is their removal of presence. If God was chilling with us everyday, you wouldn't really see him as a "God" you'd see him as, that guy who won't go away and thinks he's better than us. Not sure what speech you meant, I mean it's hard to guess because I'll have to make some assumption about what you think God means to me. And what God means to me is...hell, i don't know. So I can't guess what speech I'd make. For the purpose of this conversation God is a symbolic figure, and that's the point I made, and if that's the point you wanted me to avoid, oops. Though I doubt that. Most people generally don't try and avoid God as that annoying guy who won't go away speeches, unless they are hardcore religious, then they get all offended. xd

But yea, I don't think you should change your views, or me mine. I mean the whole interest in discursive forum is differences of opinion. If we all thought the same this would be as boring as heck. Anyhow I don't even disagree with most of what you say about Malik, just that I really would not want him around more. The whole trying to create a psychological disorder, and failing to do it correctly, is my only issue. And that doesn't change everything else. It's just an execution problem.

How far would you have to travel to find a female psychiatrist? Because I do know people who'll travel an hour or two distance once a week or twice a month to go see the doctor they'd rather see. Granted if transportation isn't easy or they are even further than that that might be impossible. But even if you could go see someone once a month whose more your preference that would be a better situation.

And yea, sorry about last night. I decided I wanted to get drunk without taking into consideration I had to go home earlier, and thus would be alone. I have known from the beginning of a tendency to be an angry drunk. Which is why I started at 18 and pretty much stopped right after until I was 21 because it wasn't worth it. I usually don't get that way very often anymore. But a lot of things have been crap lately, so when I'm drunk and alone I kinda revert back to the old angry what to yell about anything just for the sake of arguing and yelling. Not pleasant. At least I don't dream after it. xd

Well, if you're an angry drunk, that's much better than medically-induced anger, which usually lasts longer. ~head-desk~ I've been so angry lately that I really can't find a suitable outlet for it.

I prefer to get my chemical balance back before starting any serious arguments. My hormones are ******** up too. Haven't had a period in three months, and that's becoming four. Stress doesn't stop a period that long.

I've been having to do my assignments under the influence of severe rage Everyone always says to get off the Internet when you're feeling depressed, angry, whatever. I don't exactly have alternative means of entertainment. Most people would just whip out their controller and begin killing things on their Xbox, PlayStation 2, whatever the hell is out these days.

And I can't exactly get some "fresh air" if I feel like I'm going to die of frostbite or suffocate from heatstroke. Plus, after that incident back in Japan, I really don't feel like going on a "long walk" any time soon. And I can't read, because I'll keep repeating the same sentence over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over.

Television is boring, I keep abusing my keyboard and my mouse for no reason. Really, the best thing for me to do right now would be to see a ******** psychiatrist. Preferably female, because as I said, I can't TALK to men. I've always had this problem.

Men I talk to online are always confused when I say this, but we're not in person, now are we?

~bangs head on keyboard~ I can't stop yawning either. And I'm once again struck with rage.

I don't have the brainwaves to respond to anything right now.

I'm too busy trying to think of how Facebook is anti-social for an assignment I have in English. And I don't want to use a reason that will piss me off.

Ok that entirely last post was at Kits, because Kits was the only post there when I started it. I'm just double posting so that I can see what came before, it's long so I don't want to just c/p the block into my edit.

@Hawk - Well, if you are an alcoholic, it's a never ending state. Which is probably why I shouldn't be an alcoholic.

I never had cycle problems, I've always been fairly regular, something I'm lucky on. My mom was like that when she was young though. She'd go months without a period and then have one for like two weeks with cramps so bad she'd be bed-confined ((apologizes to any male who ever stumbles over this post)). How's your diet and stuff? Because hormones aren't the only thing that can interfere. If you are underweight or not getting the right nutrients your body can decide you are unhealthy, not fit to bear children, and stop your cycle. It's why a lot of Olympic gymnasts don't get periods. They are so over-exercised and so low weight - they look like 10 year old girls and their bodies act accordingly. There are other causes too, if you think something is wrong you should see a medical professional, just to make sure that it's no more than an irregular cycle. Irregularities should always bel ooked into.

I kill time reading comics and spoof material? If I don't want to do anything else. I mean me, I walk when I'm angry or upset, that's what I do. Preferably in the middle of the woods, or at least the middle of nowhere if I can't get to woods. The online entertainment is usually when I'm bored.

Speaking of online, I think there are ways you could talk to counselors online. They aren't always MD, but sometimes they can be helpful, and it'd be better than nothing? You could also look into non-medical counselors in your area? Generally there are more of those in number than certified professionals, they cost less. I mean you have to take those consultations with a grain of salt, and if you find someone you dislike don't hesitate to switch. However it gives you someone to talk to in a confidential setting. Most universities have some sort of mental health support. I had a friend who went to a really small university, only around 2000 undergrads I think? But they still have counseling services. They are at least things to try.