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 Posted: Fri May 01, 2009 6:55 pm
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Biohazard EXTREME Woot! Just got back from seeing Wolverine. It was awesome. Not as awesome as it could've been. I went to see it at a crappy theatre, so it wasn't digital, and the picture was standard NTSC, and not in HD. But I might even go see it again tomorrow at an AMC theatre and really experience it.
Dude, are you kidding me? That movie sucked. HARD. They completely ******** up EVERYTHING. They ******** up Wolverine's origin, they butchered Deadpool's character. Why they even named him Deadpool, I don't know. The script was s**t, most of the effects sucked, the story sucked. Well... there wasn't even much of a story. It's mostly just explosions and action filler with a few pauses here and there for exposition. It was stupid, silly, shallow, and poopy. That movie was horrid, horrid, HORRID! <******** that movie!
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Posted: Fri May 01, 2009 7:22 pm
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Canas Renvall Vice Captain
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Posted: Fri May 01, 2009 7:43 pm
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Posted: Fri May 01, 2009 7:44 pm
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Posted: Fri May 01, 2009 7:48 pm
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Posted: Fri May 01, 2009 7:50 pm
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Posted: Fri May 01, 2009 8:00 pm
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Posted: Sat May 02, 2009 5:47 am
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The first two movies were pretty damn faithful for the most part (David Hayter wrote the scripts, so that explains that). Many of the scenes in the second film in particular were lifted straight from the comics. The only things that weren't quite accurate were Rogue (though I can't blame them, because in order to be completely faithful to her character, they'd have to bring She-Hulk in), the members of the original X-Men, and a few other little things here and there. But you know what? They were pretty good movies. Spider-Man had biological webbing in the movies (he has to make his own web cartridges in the comics), and I liked that. And I liked the first two Spider-Man movies. So no, a movie doesn't have to be completely faithful, so long as it's good.
This movie was not. Dark Knight may be a tad overrated, but this movie isn't even in the same ballpark. Dark Knight is too good to even compare this piece of s**t with. And no offense Bio, but you and Canas liked the Resident Evil movies. 'Nuff said.
And they ******** up Deadpool. ********. Friggin' pretty boy Ryan Reynolds? Umm... no, Deadpool's skin is supposed to be all ******** up from the cancer and the Weapon X experiments (and his only power is Wolverine's healing factor, which Weapon X gave him, he's not even a mutant). He's supposed to be sick, twisted, conflicted, witty, funny, goofy, and above all likable. And he's not supposed to have his mouth sown shut with a stupid sword claw. And seriously, a sword claw?!? Is that supposed to be a practical weapon? It doesn't get much more retarded than that. Did you see how long that ********' thing was? It's not like Wolverine's claws, where they're short enough to be stored in his forearm. The mother ******** would not even be able to bend his ******** arm when that thing was retracted. They completely ******** up my favorite comic book character.
That's ********' Deadpool.
And don't even get me started on the Wolverine s**t. There was so much potential here. They could've gotten into all the Weapon X and Department H s**t, and the whole Ronin Samurai aspect of him when he lived in Japan. But instead... Sabertooth's his brother? Uhh.... what? They run away together and become war butt-buddies? Wolverine volunteered for Weapon X just so he can kick Sabertooth's a**, what the ********? And it's not even like they did the crazy s**t that they did to him in Weapon X in the comics, which pretty much made him the way he is. Cliche-ridden action scenes, boring love interests, predictable plot twists. Oh, and I just love the part where they decide that shooting him in the head with an adamantium bullet will just magically delete his memory and won't ******** up anything else. And that's exactly what they do, and that's what actually happens as a result. *facepalm* DUMB. It's ******** dumb! Seriously, who wrote this piece of s**t?!?[/fanboyrant]
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Posted: Sat May 02, 2009 7:31 am
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Thee Stranger The first two movies were pretty damn faithful for the most part (David Hayter wrote the scripts, so that explains that). Many of the scenes in the second film in particular were lifted straight from the comics. The only things that weren't quite accurate were Rogue (though I can't blame them, because in order to be completely faithful to her character, they'd have to bring She-Hulk in), the members of the original X-Men, and a few other little things here and there. But you know what? They were pretty good movies. Spider-Man had biological webbing in the movies (he has to make his own web cartridges in the comics), and I liked that. And I liked the first two Spider-Man movies. So no, a movie doesn't have to be completely faithful, so long as it's good. This movie was not. Dark Knight may be a tad overrated, but this movie isn't even in the same ballpark. Dark Knight is too good to even compare this piece of s**t with. And no offense Bio, but you and Canas liked the Resident Evil movies. 'Nuff said.
And they ******** up Deadpool. ********. Friggin' pretty boy Ryan Reynolds? Umm... no, Deadpool's skin is supposed to be all ******** up from the cancer and the Weapon X experiments (and his only power is Wolverine's healing factor, which Weapon X gave him, he's not even a mutant). He's supposed to be sick, twisted, witty, funny, goofy, and above all likable. And he's not supposed to have his mouth sown shut with a stupid sword claw. And seriously, a sword claw?!? Is that supposed to be a practical weapon? It doesn't get much more retarded than that. Did you see how long that ********' thing was? It's not like Wolverine's claws, where they're short enough to be stored in his forearm. The mother ******** would not even be able to bend his ******** arm when that thing was retracted. They completely ******** up my favorite comic book character. That's ********' Deadpool. And don't even get me started on the Wolverine s**t. There was so much potential here. They could've gotten into all the Weapon X and Department H s**t, and the whole Ronin Samurai aspect of him when he lived in Japan. But instead... Sabertooth's his brother? Uhh.... what? They run away together and become war butt-buddies? Wolverine volunteered for Weapon X just so he can kick Sabertooth's a**, what the ********? And it's not even like they did the crazy s**t that they did to him in Weapon X in the comics, which pretty much made him the way he is. Cliche-ridden action scenes, boring love interests, predictable plot twists. Oh, and I just love the part where they decide that shooting him in the head with an adamantium bullet will just magically delete his memory and won't ******** up anything else. And that's what they do, and that's exactly what actually happens. *facepalm* DUMB. It's ******** dumb! Seriously, who wrote this piece of s**t?!?[/fanboyrant]
Technically, he only said it was lot more entertaining than the Dark Knight, not necessarily better than it. But, if one considers a weak plot and a load of action extravaganza to be more entertaining, then that means two things:
1. That's just his preferable taste in movies.
2. He's a Rambo fan.
But, all in all, you're having the same argument as Bio and I had for the Dragonball movie. He doesn't mind if it's not true to form and is only faithful to the general mythology, so... |
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Posted: Sat May 02, 2009 8:58 am
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Thee Stranger Biohazard EXTREME Woot! Just got back from seeing Wolverine. It was awesome. Not as awesome as it could've been. I went to see it at a crappy theatre, so it wasn't digital, and the picture was standard NTSC, and not in HD. But I might even go see it again tomorrow at an AMC theatre and really experience it. Dude, are you kidding me? That movie sucked. HARD. They completely ******** up EVERYTHING. They ******** up Wolverine's origin, they butchered Deadpool's character. Why they even named him Deadpool, I don't know. The script was s**t, most of the effects sucked, the story sucked. Well... there wasn't even much of a story. It's mostly just explosions and action filler with a few pauses here and there for exposition. It was stupid, silly, shallow, and poopy. That movie was horrid, horrid, HORRID! <******** that movie! P.S. I didn't like it.
well now you know how we feel about 4 and 5. razz |
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Posted: Sat May 02, 2009 12:55 pm
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Umm... whoever said I liked 4? I liked the gameplay, didn't like the story. I wish 4 never happened, thank you very much. And 5 isn't perfect, but I think it's about as true of a sequel as you're gonna get, and at least it ends it.
And as I said, I don't necessarily care if it's true to the mythology as long as it's... not retarded. With the exception of Deadpool, of course. There's no way I can really explain it to make you understand or empathize, but to me, as a fan of the character and someone who has read and still owns Deadpool's entire volume #1 run, it's the equivalent of changing everything that Spider-Man or Wolverine is, right down to their abilities, background, and personality. So why put the character in there in the first place? It would have made more sense to name him Garrison Kane, as the character in this movie shares more in common with him than Deadpool. Plus, nobody even knows who he is or gives a s**t about him.
I just had to get it off my chest. That was my rant, and I'm done now. The comics are way better.
I think Bio can speak for himself, but if I remember correctly, he didn't even like the Dark Knight. But anyway, if one considers weak plot, bastardization of mythology, and a mindless action extravaganza to be less entertaining, then that means two things:
1.) He's a fanboy.
2.) He prefers substance.
And Rambo has nothing to do with it. I like the Rambo movies too. I also am a big fan of action. Wolverine and Deadpool comics are very action-heavy, but they also have much better writing than this movie 9 times out of 10. This movie has cliche action. Like, age-old-as-it-gets-cliche-action. Like Wolverine walking away from an exploding helicopter all badass-like as if he didn't even notice it happened. Stupid s**t like that.
Anyway, I'm done. I didn't like it. The end.
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Posted: Sat May 02, 2009 1:23 pm
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Posted: Sat May 02, 2009 6:46 pm
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Well, stranger, you say Deadpool is supposed to be this and that. And I'm not an expert on X-Men, but if I remember correctly, Wolverine is supposed to be a short hairy ugly dude. Yet he's played by man candy Hugh Jackman. So obviously, except for the body hair, and the claws, he doesn't really have that much in common with what Wolverine is supposed to look like either.
Either way, I haven't read a single X-Men comic in my life, I briefly watched the 1992 cartoon, and that's pretty much it. No, Wolverine wasn't as good as Iron Man or The Incredible Hulk, but hell, it was a fine movie.
And yes, Canas and I like RE movies, does that make our opinions less valuable? That you're so damn picky about your movies, does it make you more of an intellectual or something? I can enjoy any movie that isn't boring. That's what it is. There's maybe 5 movies that I actually hated. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind, Vanilla Sky come to mind right away. Why? Because they're pretentious and boring.
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Posted: Sat May 02, 2009 7:05 pm
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Posted: Sat May 02, 2009 7:12 pm
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Well considering I know very little about Deadpool, I can't really comment. I mean, I knew he was way off, but still, let me see if I can find an example....
Well, since you mentioned Baraka Claws, let's got with Mortal Kombat, a franchise which I love, as you probably know.
In Mortal Kombat, Scorpion and Sub-Zero are supposed to be bitter enemies, and in the game's storyline, they fight in the tournament until Scorpion kills Sub-Zero, avenging his own death. Which I would've loved to see. But the writers of the movie decided that Shang Tsung put a spell on them or something, and made both of them his slaves, which takes one of the coolest parts of MK's mythology out. Not only that, but Sub-Zero literally didn't get a single line of text. But I'm not throwing a hissy fit over it. I focus on the positive. Like, the fact that Sub-Zero didn't speak only added an aura of mystery to his character. And overall, they took the idea of the Tournament, and made it into a plain good vs. bad. But the thing is... (cont v)
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