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Kitsune Ketz Kwineight Captain
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Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2014 10:35 pm
Jounouchi snarled at Kaiba, refusing to attack him when he needed to be worrying over his sister, instead merely putting his hands up to try to prevent another shove. Perhaps if he were calmer, he would consider the possibility that the other was purposefully trying to achieve something with this, that he was trying to steer him closer to Shizuka, or maybe even that he himself had been possessed by the spirit.
However, Jounouchi was already worked up from the stress and fear of all of this, so he could only manage to divide his attention between, "Protect Shizuka" and "Kaiba sucks" thoughts.
As he worked between these two trains of thought, he glanced back and forth between Kaiba and Shizuka, and it suddenly occurred to him that he was a lot closer to her than he had been a minute ago. He didn't manage to realize that Kaiba had intentionally caused this, but he at least saw an opportunity present itself. Continuing to hold his hands up, Jounouchi slowly began walking backwards, as if he were cautiously preparing to avoid another shove.
((Fair enough. Especially if they ended up getting back together within the same movie. But I feel exactly the same way about Pepper, that she doesn't have enough to her besides being there for Tony. I think Jane Foster has the same problem with Thor. Actually, I think the only female love interest that managed to get her own characterization and have a believable romance was Peggy Carter with Cap. There was even a short that showed how she moved on without him. I wish more movies represented the female love interests to the main male heroes like that. Eh, I never shipped Tony/Pepper much anyway, even in the comics; I'd prefer if they just broke up. Did you know that in the comics she had married Happy (Tony's bodyguard that almost gets killed in Iron Man 3), but after the success of the first Iron Man movie, they killed him off in the comics so she could be with Tony? That pissed me off so much. She and Happy were way better together and had a way healthier, more developed relationship. And then they just threw him away like he was nothing so they could be more like the movies.
Yeah, that makes sense. Yuusuke kind of had the same role going on, but the series at the beginning made it a point to show that he was really the good guy being labeled a bully, so it got spelled out for the kids. Kuwabara didn't get that luxury. D: ))
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Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2014 1:05 pm
Seto didn't think Jounouchi had caught on but he had noticed they were getting closer to Shizuka and was starting to make much too obvious motions to get to her. This is why he hadn't just told him what he was doing, he couldn't play it cool to save his - or in this case his sister's - life. He was fairly certain he'd tracked the spirit but it wasn't close enough, it was feeding off the anger but Jounouchi was calming down and Seto's was fake, something that would be very noticeable when his sparring partner completely lost focus. So he did the first thing that came to mind, he picked Jounouchi up by the collar and mocked, 'just growls dog? Can't even form a coherent sentence? That's been the worst part of this nightmare, being stuck with someone so low IQ,' before tossing him onto his back on the ground, a few inches away from his sister.
And at that moment Anzu was directly behind him, wasn't sure how she could move so quickly, probably the spirit. He wasn't even sure Jounouchi or Shizuka had seen her move there, but he could feel it. Before Jounouchi had time to rise or the shikigami had time to react further he reached around grabbed Anzu, shoving his fist full of the powder he'd gotten from Futata down her throat. She struggled and thrashed but he pinned her against his side and kept his hand firmly over her mouth for thirty seconds before finally letting go. Black smoke expelled from Anzu's mouth as the spirit was forced out. He tossed a knife down to Jounouchi, 'cut her loose, quickly, it'll be weakened for a bit but we need to go.' With the spirit expelled Anzu lost consciousness, but she was still breathing. He held her up with one arm while he pulled out his phone, finally able to call his brother.
'Mokuba,' he began before his brother could get a word in, 'no time for details, I want you Yuugi, and Honda to get a helicopter back home immediately.' He gave quick directions to the shrine where he wanted them all to meet. He didn't think the spirit would be recover before they could all safely get back, but there was no reason to delay. Ending the call he turned to Jounouchi who was still sitting shell shocked but had at last managed to cut his sister free who was getting to her feet. Picking up Anzu he raced back toward the limo.
((I definitely can't imagine they wouldn't get back together in the same movie, so yea, it wouldn't have much depth. I definitely agree about Jane/Thor not being a solid couple either but it annoys me less and there are other characters I like in that series so it seems less bothersome somehow. Plus they always seem to try to press Tony/Pepper as a more overarching couple. I mean Pepper gets inserted into the Avengers a bit, even a missed 'emotional' (ya know, if I felt it) call at the climax. Thor meanwhile never picks up a phone to call Jane and she's completely forgotten even though her sidekick is totally there. And that just sucks that the comics are deciding to run with the movie universe, so even though I'm not a comic person that's one more thing to annoy me about this couple. What bollocks.))
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JuokasKurvas Vice Captain
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Kitsune Ketz Kwineight Captain
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Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2014 3:48 pm
Once Shizuka was cut loose and Kaiba was fleeing with Anzu, Jounouchi managed to pull himself up, guiding his sister to run with him. He remained silent, completely shocked at what all had just gone down. He was still furious, but at the same time, the smaller, logical part of his brain was starting to insist that this had all been a ploy on Kaiba's part, that he had been acting. The anger and mistrust that had resurfaced in the pit of his stomach argued, asking why Kaiba hadn't told him about this plan or this powder or whatever in the car. That would've saved a lot of confusion, and then Jounouchi could've played along too.
A third part of Jounouchi, the middle ground, told the other two parts to shut the hell up and focus on making sure everyone got to safety. He could worry about the rest later. His sister and Anzu were safe for now, and he and Kaiba had gotten through the ordeal unscathed. That was all that mattered at the moment.
The two made it to the car shortly after Kaiba, managing to catch up quickly, since they weren't carrying the weight of another person. He opened the back door for Shizuka as Kaiba placed Anzu through the other side, then jumped into the passenger seat as the other man went into the driver's.
((The Jane/Thor thing actually bothers me more. With Tony and Pepper, though I don't like them as a couple and thought it was too easy, at least they've known each other for years before they got together. Jane and Thor were just an immediate, awkward romance, and theirs is way more intense and over-the-top than Tony and Pepper's. Plus Jane served the plot in almost no way besides being the love interest in the first Thor, and in the second was nothing but the problem, or the damsel in distress. Thor does everything for Jane, loses his mother (and believes he loses his brother) for her, and she is just the special little human that contributes nothing back, doesn't even really console him, but she is his twoo wuv and is of course a genius astrophysicist so that makes her a strong, independent woman. That's how you write those women folk, right? Give them one redeeming quality besides being nice and pretty? As for Pepper, though she contributes less plot-wise than Jane, she still has her own personality (though it is not developed enough) and actually does useful things. She doesn't need to fight or anything, but she helps Tony out of his s**t, runs the company, develops a better relationship with Phil and SHIELD than he does... yes, it still all revolves around him, but at least she does something besides randomly discovering anomalies that lead to the plot with her amazing science. Jane does absolutely nothing that doesn't relate to Thor either, because she does nothing to begin with.
As for the comics, I normally don't mind when they take influence from the movies. Like Coulson didn't exist in the comics, but he became a main character in them eventually, and Clint and Natasha, though they used to work together, have been pretty drifted in recent comics until Avengers, and now they're starring in titles together again and figuring out some of what's going on with their confusing relationship. By the way, I love this: http://dancys.tumblr.com/post/82194898410/honestly-the-arrow-necklace-was-a-choice-that ))
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Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2014 8:12 pm
Seto was surprised with Jounouchi got in the front of the car with him rather than in the back with his sister. He thought he'd want to be in back to check on Anzu and be near his sister, particularly as the limo partition wasn't one that could be lowered (he had never had an interest in seeing his drivers and merely just had an intercom in place if he needed to speak to them). He didn't stop to question it, the doors were closed and he sped off.
After a few moments of silence Seto finally broke, 'I didn't mean any of it you know. I didn't really know if any of that would work, but it depended entirely on an emotional response and you may have a lot of talents but pretending to feel is not one of them. You feel what you do when you feel it, and I needed you to feel real anger, it's the only thing that would have gotten that stupid spirit to come so close. You asked me to do whatever I could to get your sister and Anzu out alive and I did. I realise however, that that meant hurting you.'
((I think part of why Jane/Thor don't bother me is I don't really take them seriously. I mean it just seems very high school, the whole 'in love after a day and it's the most serious important part of life ever.' I mean Thor even strikes me as a giant sixteen year old anyhow so it just kind of fits but I don't take it seriously. I mean I don't think Thor does much for Jane, his mother is the one who chooses to die to protect her while Thor isn't even there, and his brother kind of handles the situation the way he wanted as well too. So the big thing he chooses is at the end to go be with her, and I guess for now my brain can just totally imagine it not working out and there hasn't been that much invested. Or maybe it will work out but it'll prove itself, but it didn't work out because of true love nonsense no matter what they may say/may imply. Just with time and proximity it might become something real, the way sometimes teenage romances do even if they did have a ridiculous start. So it bothers me less because I just don't take it seriously at this point. There has been very little 'love' shown between them. So I agree that I think Pepper is a better and more desirable character, or at least, she's been fleshed out more so we see why she is. But as much as it annoys me, Tony and Pepper do have much more time between them (though I feel we are told about more of it than feel it if you take just the movies alone) and it feels more real, on top of also feeling sudden and too easy. I mean frankly Jane knows nothing about Thor, doesn't know enough about him to dislike Thor and maybe she would if she found a few skeletons in his closet, or would have to get through them. Pepper watches his parade of women and just easily jumps into a relationship with him either (a) just knowing she's such a special butterfly that it'll be different (b) because she's really that naive or (c) because she's a bit of a gluten for punishment. So it bothers me more because it seems too easy + the bad informed choice versus the high school relationship that I can easily choose not to take seriously at this point. I can see Tony and Pepper getting better, even if I did hate the start, Jane and Thor I don't see getting better so while I doubt it'll go away I'd definitely like it too. Until it's in my face again I'm sticking with the crappy teenage relationship point of view. xd
I guess I wouldn't mind good inspiration between different mediums (despite which one came first), but taking something trite like a fairly flimsy relationship does seem a bit disappointing. I don't know enough about Hawkeye and Black Widow, they were characters I wasn't familiar with before the filmverse, but hopefully the relationship becoming clear is at least better than the relationships of Tony and Thor. xd ))
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JuokasKurvas Vice Captain
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Kitsune Ketz Kwineight Captain
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Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 1:01 pm
Jounouchi had gotten into the front seat because he was still in fight/flight mode. Escaping was more important than making sure everyone was alright at that moment, and from the front he could look out for threats, watch where Kaiba was driving, and warn him of any problems. After actually settling into the limo and realizing they weren't being chased, he calmed down enough to realize his decision was both unnecessary and awkward. He sunk into his seat, just staring out the window until the other spoke up.
Jounouchi listened to him in silence, face still turned toward the window, but glancing at Kaiba's reflection as he spoke. At first he tensed, ready to argue, to defend as usual, but the anger faded away as he heard how sincere and... and kind Kaiba's words, and his previous actions, actually were. Yeah, it hurt, and it stung his pride that he had had to be manipulated to save his sister, that it was ultimately Kaiba that had done everything, but he was too relieved for everyone's safety for this to bother him much. Actually, he how felt glad, even joy at how things had gone down. How Kaiba was talking to him now, that he was actually apologetic, and even managed to slightly compliment Jounouchi.
So after listening to him speak, and waiting a few seconds to process, he finally spoke back, "...thank you."
((I can get that. For me, high school romances bother me a lot more than serious, flawed relationships. They're boring and annoying and I hate seeing them flaunted to me the entire movie. As terrible as the circumstances are with Tony/Pepper, at least I have something I can be invested in, and can be interested in what becomes of their relationship. With Thor and Jane I just want it to end so it will stop being stupid. Tony and Pepper I want it to resolve in a way that both characters can grow, regardless of if they stay together or break up (though I would prefer break up). I think Pepper got with him for the third reason, that she's a gluten for punishment. She already has invested her life to helping and pretty much keeping stable a narcissistic, impulsive rich boy. When he suddenly wants her to invest her romantic interests too, why not? She's already getting everything else he has to offer, especially the bad.
Yes, I think it's interesting when comics start slowly reflecting movie relationships more when the movie relationships are actually good and interesting. However, for the Tony/Pepper/Happy thing, I think it was a terrible choice. For Hawkeye and Black Widow, Black Widow at first coerced Hawkeye to work as a villain with her, but he was more a small-time thief and ended up deciding it was too much for him, even though he had feelings for her. So he joined the Avengers and redeemed himself. Eventually she got to that point of wanting redemption too, though she had a lot more to redeem for, so joined the Avengers too. The two reconciled (though I don't believe they ever actually started a relationship, there has always been a spark there) and worked together a lot, but kind of divided when Hawkeye started dating and then married Mockingbird. Those two are divorced now, and Hawkeye and Widow are presently on a small mini Avengers team together, where they're having a lot of awkward conversations about their partnership/friendship/relationship and kind of trying to find a resolution, but are in no way rushed or stupid about it. XD I love it. I also don't think their relationship could ever be as bad as the Tony and Thor ones if they started one in the movieverse, because Natasha already has her own character, and is even more developed than Clint, so they can't fall into the cliche of her life revolving around his.))
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Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 2:00 pm
Seto grunted softly in reply, suddenly uncomfortable with the almost friendly atmosphere.
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Shizuka let Anzu rest against her, listening to make sure the girl was still breathing, that her pulse was still steady. After a few minutes Anzu started to stir and Shizuka put her arm around her comfortingly, 'Anzu, are you okay? Are you hurt?'
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Mokuba had looked pretty frustrated when he hung up the phone without being able to get in a single word, but he immediately sprung to action without complaint. They were now speeding toward where the helicopter was preparing to take them back home and he finally took a moment to ask, tentatively as Mokuba's temper wasn't as mild and polite as it had once been, 'why is your brother sending us to a shrine, is he going to meet us there? Is Shizuka okay?'
((They bother me more in principle, but as I don't take them seriously they are a lot easier to ignore. That said I rewatched Thor yesterday as everything else on TV in that time slot was terrible and while I think it's ridiculous it does entertain me a lot more. I guess I'll take ridiculous over pisses me off. Plus the one thing I did think about in re-watching Thor, and thinking about a line from Honest Trailers, I mean it's not just a no time relationship but everything for Thor is over what (as HT points out) is essentially a long weekend. Learning humility, growing as a person, becoming a good man rather than a spoiled boy and falling for some stupid mortal girl. So basically the entirety of the plot asks you to suspend disbelief and accept that a lot of things that should take years took days. I guess in that sense it all works together, it's not just the relationship. Where in Iron Man lots of plot things have a more realistic time frame, in the first film I didn't get the feeling he'd just built that suit overnight it seemed to imply a much longer length of time (although now that I'm curious enough to check I can't find anything that'll confirm for me how long he was captive). It felt more real though. I guess that's what's jarring, the differences in time. The Jane/Thor whirlwind romance is ridiculous but so is everything else in the Thor time frame so it all kind of fits in. I will be fair though and say I've seen Thor at least half a dozen times (I think more) and I've seen each of the Iron Man films only once. So it might be worth giving them another chance. They still can't win me over more on first impression but maybe I'll appreciate some details in a re-watch I didn't the first time around.
Widow/Hawkeye friend/lovers/whatever does sound like it'll probably be the most solid relationship. It already has the advantage of one that wasn't just thrust out from the beginning, though they both haven't had solo movies so there's been less pressure for that. It is a bit annoying that none of the stand alone films managed to just ignore a relationship for at least one incarnation. Well actually Captain America does, as there isn't one in the sequel (unless you count a moment with elder Peggy) and the prequel probably pushes it the least. So maybe that's more reason why Captain America does it the most for me. It just seems so trite to try to force love into world saving crises. I mean in the comics having it come up from time to time of course, that's just life. But in a movie that spans a short period of time? Come on, somebody can be single for a short period of time and just focus on heroism. And I am now thinking about it again annoyed b/c Thor is mostly motivated to change in all those other ways because of Jane, and seriously, she's not that good of a humanity teacher. xd Okay I'll stop now I thinking I'm going in endless circles about my own opinion.))
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JuokasKurvas Vice Captain
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Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2014 12:28 am
Jounouchi shifted in his seat, wanting to say something more, but still feeling awkward, though at the same time also a bit out of it from all that had just happened. He knew that if he weren't in this current state of mind, he'd never say this, but that if he didn't say it now when his pride was already at rock bottom, he'd keep it locked away and it would always be a bit of an elephant in the room. So he spoke once more, "...I really mean it." he turned to look directly at Kaiba, rather than at his reflection, "...I don't care how much of an a** you've been in the past or how much I used to hate you, or even how you try to portray yourself or tell yourself how you should be. When it comes down to it... you're a good person. And... and even a good friend. I really owe you." he smiled softly, unable to help himself. Jounouchi was just absolutely flooded with relief, and being someone who normally immediately expressed his emotions, he chose Kaiba as his outlet with this.
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"...mmn... Shizuka Chan?" Anzu asked quietly, her voice hoarse. "...where are we?" she squinted, barely registering that they were currently moving.
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Mokuba sulked in his seat as he looked down, "...he's meeting us there, but I don't know why." he turned his gaze up to Honda, worry lines etched under his eyes, "Nii Sama was rushed. It sounded really urgent..." his tone became slightly apologetic, "He... he didn't have time to say if Shizuka or even Jounouchi were okay."
((See, ridiculous does piss me off, so it's a lose/lose for me. XD Haha, I love Honest Trailers. It pretty much was just a long weekend. But when a movie asks me to believe something that ridiculous in a universe that otherwise has stable timing and character growth, and just can't do it. That's lazy writing to me, putting the burden on the viewer to suspend their disbelief rather than the writer to page acceptable characters and development. That just pisses me off more, and the timing thing overall in Thor (not just the Jane stuff) bothered me the entire movie, and is the biggest reason it's one of my least favorites. I don't care if one bad thing fits with another; they're all still bad things that I don't want to see in my pile of good movies. XD
I agree; I wish some Marvel movies could just be movies without the romance. I think that's part of why Avengers and Winter Soldier were a couple of the best. Even the first Iron Man only really hinted at it till near the end. Romances just do not belong in movies where they get in the way of the plot/characterization. They should only appear when they work with the plot and characters, not shoved awkwardly in for the sake of having them. Especially since Hollywood just loves writing one-dimensional female protagonists. Their defining trait is still usually that they're 'the girl' of the movie, like being a guy is the default. I think the only Marvel Studios movie that managed to use a romance to its advantage was Captain America. It enhanced the plot and characterization without disrupting it. Too bad the rest of the plot sucked for me. XD And oh yeah, Jane didn't really do anything to show Thor humanity, besides teaching him about Poptarts. It was more like he found someone he cared for, so realized he could be a caring person. It was still all Thor's work; he just needed a catalyst. That's one thing I greatly prefer about Jane in the comics; she's a paramedic (or nurse in older things). She's not some convenient genius, but she genuinely cares about people and puts her own self at risk to save others. That's what teachers Thor care and humility, not just finding someone he himself cares for.))
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Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2014 1:07 am
Seto flushed uncomfortably, he didn't really know how to handle people expressing gratitude and something he suspected was pretty close to affection, particularly toward him. 'Don't worry about it,' he mumbled, not even sure Jounouchi could hear him.
Unable to take anymore heartfelt moments he quickly moved to change the subject. 'Look, I'm hoping Futata might have something we can use to at least keep us all safe from possession even if no answers on how to defeat this spirit for good yet. Hiding out at the shrine won't be ideal, but assuming we don't have to go that route how far should this extend? My brother, Yuugi and your friend Honda are all on their way to the shrine, is there anyone else the spirit might go after to get to you? Obviously Mokuba is the only person that could really be used against me. Your mother's hospitalized, we can't move her, hopefully she'll be fine there. I'm not sure your father is going to be very receptive to any of this, assuming he hasn't already been compromised. What do you want to do?'
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'We are in the back of one of Kaiba's limos,' Shizuka answered gently, not sure where to start explaining the story, she wasn't even sure how much Anzu knew about the situation, if she'd been awake at all during that possession. 'What's the last thing you remember?'
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Honda wanted to hit himself for not even thinking to ask about Jounouchi, he just hadn't originally been the one in danger so it didn't even occur to him to think he could have gotten hurt on their quest to save Shizuka. 'Well, I'm sure he would have found time to mention if they weren't okay,' Honda stated confidently, mostly trying to reassure himself.
((I'm just so used to comics/graphic novels/manga series (and cartoons frequently) that don't have a realistic time frame that I kind of just accept that it is an element of this type of universe at this point and it doesn't bother me, particularly if it's consistent and seamless and works with itself. There are certain realisms I don't expect in the comic world (and some that I don't expect but do tend to be the reason I don't get into many American comics b/c they just don't work for me personally) and a normal human timeline is definitely one of them. I mean I try to think if Thor could work better for me if they just implied that it took place over something like 3-5 years and I think that would bore me without adding anything for me. I guess for me the greatest sin is boredom. There are movies I think are terrible but they don't bore me, and movies I recognise as 'good' movies but they either bore me entirely or far too frequently. I'm much more forgiving of a book that has it's dull moments than a film, and so I suppose Iron Man commits the most unforgivable sin for me. But I find it to do this less and less as the films progress at least.
The first Iron Man hinted but I felt a bit too obviously and overtly, though perhaps b/c I already knew maybe that's why it seemed heavy handed. But yea the first Iron Man definitely suffered more from boring me than annoying me with a trite romance plot, that's true. But yea, I definitely would like to see a better mix of (a) movies that manage to function without sticking in a random pointless romance for the sake of sexiness and (b) movies that solidly support the relationships that they are completely justified in having.))
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JuokasKurvas Vice Captain
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Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2014 2:02 pm
Though he was still smiling a bit to himself, Jounouchi's face had heated too as it dawned on him how embarrassing that had just been, to say all of that. He sunk in his seat slightly, glad for a change of subject, "I'm not too worried about my dad..." he admitted. It wasn't so much that he wasn't worried about him, but that he would be more worried to bring him around his sister and friends in the shrine, than to leave him be, "...he... can take care of himself just fine." This was completely untrue, but Jounouchi wanted to justify leaving him behind to himself.
"I don't have any other family. The only other people I'm really close to are Bakura, Otogi, Yuugi's grandpa... and Mai." he frowned at the last one. He felt like they were close friends, yet he hadn't heard from her in forever. He had no idea where she even was. Great, more things to worry about.
He wanted another change of subject, "Hey, real quick, can you lower this partition?" he gestured to the back of the car, "I want to check on the girls. I didn't even get to check if Shizuka was hurt, and Anzu..." he frowned, worried a possession could maybe have lasting effects on her. "We can talk about this more once we know they're okay."
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"Kaiba Kun's limo...?" Anzu frowned in confusion. The first thing that popped into her head was that Kaiba had gone crazy evil again and that they had been kidnapped. She immediately sat up, swaying from dizziness right after, "I-is everything okay?? The... the last thing I remember..." she frowned, "Being at home."
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Mokuba nodded, "...I'll text Nii Sama. I don't want to call him in case he's still rushing, but this way he can let us know if they're okay." he quickly texted his brother to inquire as much.
((I don't really get used to things like unrealistic time frames and such. I accept or don't accept them on a case-by-case basis. Like with comics, with how long the same universes have been going and how many different writers are producing content at the same time, I accept that it is literally impossible to follow a realistic time frame, and that it's really only been maybe 8-15 years since like... the Fantastic Four first began in the comicverse. Rather than, you know, 50. XD But movies do not have that kind of excuse. I get that they still have a timeline within their own universe to deal with, so even though that amount of character development would preferably take years, I would accept a couple months or even a few weeks, at least for the non-romance parts. All the other Marvel movies that needed extended time for plot and character development pulled that off just fine, so I can't forgive Thor for cutting it into a weekend. Lazy and unrealistic (within the context of the universe, of course) writing are my biggest sins. I can take being bored for a while as long as there is a payoff, and as long as I can connect with the characters in some way.
I do agree that Tony/Pepper was heavy-handed even in the first movie, but it was inoften enough compared to future Iron Man movies or Thor/Jane and the plot was good enough that it didn't detract too much from the movie for me. Totally agreed on the last point though. Hopefully at least Marvel Studios will start realizing that more, since their most highly praised films are Avengers (no romance besides some Pepper/Jane references), Iron Man (just the few heavy-handed moments with Pepper), and Cap 2 (no romance besides visiting Peggy).))
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Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2014 6:08 pm
'The partition can't be lowered, it's why I was surprised you sat in front, I had thought that was obvious. There is an intercom but they'd have to ring it, I don't let my drivers call me as I don't want to risk being interrupted when I'm working.' Seto paused after explaining the partition. It was no wonder people genuinely didn't like him with all the effort he'd expended in keeping his person as isolated as possible. Perhaps it wasn't just jealousy and/or respect for his preferences that kept everyone at a distance. Pushing the negative thoughts aside for now, he offered, 'I'd have to pull over to let you into the back of the vehicle. I'd rather hurry to the shrine if that's okay, but if you want to check on the girls I'll pull off and let you back there?'
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'Umm, well everything is okay at the moment but there is a lot going on,' Shizuka said hesitantly, unsure where to begin and what Anzu was up for. Plus she didn't have all the information either, such as what this spirit thing haunting her brother and/or Kaiba was. She went for sharing the short version that covered the major details. Some evil force was after her brother and possibly Kaiba, and was potentially hurting loved ones to get at them. She detailed how she, Yuugi and Honda had been busy researching while her brother and Kaiba chased down supernatural experts Isis had recommended. Finally, she explained as much as she could about the possession, trying to be as gentle as possible around the bits of what the spirit had actually been up to - that Shizuka was aware of - while it had been in possession of Anzu's skin.
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'Well, it's dangerous to text and drive, if he's driving that is, otherwise I don't see why he couldn't answer. So maybe we should just wait for answers, we'll be there soon right? Don't want them to crash and burst into flames due to inappropriate phone use,' Honda joked lightly, trying to lighten the mood and hide his own worry.
((Yea, see I wouldn't buy a few weeks as any more believable than a few days, in fact I'd probably believe it even less. So yea, I guess it doesn't feel lazy and unrealistic to me because everything kind of fits well and it isn't really until after the fact that I thought about the fact that everything took place over a few days. I have almost never felt a payoff to being boredom because I think I could take it too, but I've rarely found something that's bored me to have any pay off. So it ends up being the bigger sin. Because yea, at the end of the day the Iron Man plot is just dull to me, I recognise why it is 'good' but I still find it hideously boring. Thor I recognise that is cheesy and kind of dumb, but I forgive it because it's entertaining and likable. I can accept down swings/dull moments in TV and ongoing media, but in film I expect a fairly constant progression and payoff. I only like the slow burn in the psychological/heavy thinking type mediums (of which the Marvel films rarely touch). As for Marvel realising that romances don't have to be everywhere I don't think it's down to a realisation. I mean there is no shortage of outcry media screaming 'enough Hollywood' and yet tickets still sell and so they'll still put it in. Because it's safe, it's the safe fill. Studios aren't willing to take risks and so it's less a problem of recognising that people want to see other stuff and more of them probably being very slow about taking risks outside of the established comfort zone. Considering 9/10 innovative or 'risky' movies tend to bomb in the box office (even if they maybe get a cult following and heavy critical/fan appreciation later) I can't blame them even if it sucks.))
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JuokasKurvas Vice Captain
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Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2014 1:09 pm
"Oh..." Jounouchi frowned, holding back a, 'you really are a d**k' comment. "Nah, better hurry to safety first. Shizuka just seemed shaken, and she can take care of Anzu." He tried not to sound as worried as he actually was. "Actually, can I use your phone then? Anzu should still have hers."
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Anzu was silent as she tried to take in everything. The first response she managed was a weak laugh, "...I can't believe I got possessed again... what is that, the third, fourth time?" she frowned as she thought it over more, "Oh god Shizuka Chan, I am so sorry. Are you hurt at all? Did I hurt anyone?"
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Mokuba didn't seem to get that Honda was joking. He gave him a dirty look, "Nii Sama isn't an idiot. If he's driving he'll just ignore it until they're there."
Yuugi spoke up, not wanting tensions to get any higher than they already were, "Let's just worry about getting there for now. If Kaiba Kun responds, then he responds. If not, he's probably driving and we'll hear from him soon."
((A few weeks definitely seems more believable than a few days to me. Maybe not on Thor's part for insane character change, but at least it gives him a little more time to learn more and experience other things. Meeting other people, learning about poverty, maybe getting yelled at by someone for being a pompous jerk. At the very least it gives more time for those types of things to happen, rather than just discovering not to throw coffee on the floor and that human women are pretty. A lot of times a boring movie doesn't give me a payoff either, but in that case I can just shrug and forget about it. I'd rather be bored and not care about something than be outright offended. Granted, Iron Man wasn't boring at all to me. XD I thought the plot could've easily been boring, but the spice of the characters managed to make it interesting the entire time. Alright, maybe not realization on what types of movies get more praise then, but realization that going from the norm of romance in every action movie doesn't lose them money. Iron Man was the first of their movies, and it honestly was their guinea pig to see if they would fail or be able to go forward with this, and it exceeded expectations by a long run. Avengers is still one of the highest grossing films to date, and Winter Soldier is also one of their most successful films. If reviews don't speak, that money does. It shows that they were able to deviate from the romantic norm and still be insanely successful. It was a small risk, but still a risk nonetheless.))
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Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2014 6:42 pm
'Yea sure,' Seto said, digging in his coat and handing it over. Before Jounouchi could make the call it 'pinged' signaling a text. 'Mokuba?' he asked.
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'No you didn't, Kaiba stopped you - well that thing - before you could,' Shizuka said, feeling a wave of gratitude thinking back. She knew her brother had been hurt and furious, but she'd been able to tell right away that it was a ruse. Kaiba had been a petty man in the past, but he wasn't stupid and he was always very deliberate about his actions when the pressure was on. She felt bad for her brother, he'd clearly been hurt, but they'd all gotten out alive and it was mostly thanks to him. Kaiba always insisted they weren't friends, that he didn't like them. Yet, instead of approaching this situation as something in which he just had to get himself, and his brother, to safety he thought about the group. She hoped her brother would realise that one day, she was sure he'd like the guy if he'd give him half a chance. If they'd give each other a chance, and she smiled to herself a bit amused at all the possible meanings of that idea.
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'I wasn't implying that,' Honda mumbled petulantly. He used to like Mokuba, but these days he annoyed him more than his older brother. He knew he was stressed, but he didn't used to turn into quite this much of a jerk when things got rough. He couldn't wait until this whole mess was over and the Kaiba brothers could go back to their spoiled rich person lives and he could happily ignore them again.
((No, all you need to learn is not to smash coffee cups and then you are set for life! Lol, yea I get it's not great but Thor is definitely something that kind of marketed well to a certain type of, ahem, female audience member and I have to admit I definitely fall into the category. I think Thor hits a certain more stereotypical female 'ooh hot men and cheesy romance' demographic, Iron Man a more stereotypical male (well, in 'gender' tropes anyhow) 'woo robot battles and the playboy we wish we were' demographic and Captain America just kind of focused on being good and thus stayed away from more of the annoying tropes that kind of attach to relationships. So I think they are aware they can deviate but they clearly don't lose money by not deviating so they aren't as motivated to take it out/stop doing it. Plus, with Marvel considering they almost primarily went with male protagonists they kind of also feel a need to stick it in to put female characters, just any female characters, more into the movies because you do tend to alienate a female audience without at least one solid female actress/character (the same way men are alienated by romcoms, which are actually worse at developing male characters than action/superhero movies tend to be at developing female characters, even if they do tend to become romantic plot devices b/c what, just friends? Absurd!). Captain America managed to avoid romance and be amazing and still have a solid female main character by appropriating the one non-male 'Avenger' they've stuck in thus far. Iron Man 2 used her too though obviously not as much, and I think that was a big part of why that movie is better for me than the first. They used the solid female character who yea she still fulfills the 'sexy' role but she isn't the girlfriend. Nowhere near as much as Captain America, but I enjoyed her presence there. Although, I kind of think I preferred Terrence Howard to Don Cheadle, so hmm...that's one thing the first one might have for me, I just can't decide. Back in circles again.
But yes, in agreement that I'd love some more movies that have men and women and they totally don't have to put their bits together. Because come on, outside of porn I don't see why this is mandatory. Though I'd love to see the porno that took sex out, the disappointed viewers' frustration would be priceless. xd
Also there is a new thread with a hello? I can't tell if it's a new person or an old person returned, though if it's the latter I don't know who it is. Anyhow packing, cleaning and basically trying not to cry about leaving CA so will deal with that later.))
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JuokasKurvas Vice Captain
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Kitsune Ketz Kwineight Captain
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Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2014 8:45 pm
Jounouchi looked down at the phone, "Yeah, he's seeing if we're okay." he fumbled with the phone for a few seconds, trying to figure out how to text back, eventually managing a "ya."
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"Good, good..." Anzu sighed in relief, leaning back into her seat a bit, "...so Kaiba Kun saved the day?" she smiled lightly to herself. She always knew he was secretly a good person.
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Mokuba received the text back, reading it, "....I'm guessing this is from Jounouchi. It says they're okay though, so that's good." he nodded, asking next when they would be at the shrine.
((I've been trying to explain that to my parents regarding all the glass and coffee on the floor, but they don't get it! I do not tend to be that market of female audience members, haha. There's only a few romantic comedies I've even vaguely enjoyed. Though I agree with you that romantic comedies tend to develop males worse than action develops females, I also think they do just as bad of a job developing females too. XP Lose/lose for women in movies. Oh, and I hate that too, needing to have the 'token' female so they always just make her the love interest of the main character. Every friggin movie. Male protagonist, and his chick is the one token female. I hate token females and I hate that their sex organs have to be their defining trait. I did like that Black Widow was in Iron Man 2, but I don't like at all how she was portrayed. I don't mind the sexy factor, and her black ops scene was even one of my favorite parts of the movie, but other than that she was just extremely flat and boring. Had no personality. I think Whedon took that bland character that an amazing actress was being wasted on and turned her into something really special, and Winter Soldier took that and made it even better. I also preferred Terrence Howard. I was greatly disappointed when he was replaced.
Oh god I want to see that anti porno so much now. XD Granted, I'm very open about having sex scenes in movies, but I don't think it should be thrown in for the sake of being in there. If your movie works without it, great, don't worry about it. If it benefits the movie to have the scene, that's great too, go for it.
Okay, I shall check that out. And good luck on your trip back! D: ))
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Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2014 11:10 pm
'I didn't mention that you and Shizuka were specifically okay, I forgot. I also didn't say Anzu was here, we weren't allowed to message anyone after I realised that bit. You might as well let them know that detail as well, I assume Honda and Yuugi would especially care about such news.'
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'He did,' Shizuka said with a smile, glad Anzu was calming down, 'him and Jounouchi have been together quite a lot lately. It's odd, but I think good for both of them.'
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'Good,' Honda smiled, relieved. If Jounouchi was able to text then both he and Shizuka had to be okay.
((Hahaha, I hate being part of that market because ugh, stereotype. But I also like it b/c ugh, abs! Lol, but not really abs b/c I'm not really an abs person, though I do like buff arms, that's kinda my weird thing. Plus long hair on guys. Thor, Loki, Bucky = yum. Iron Man has no long haired buff armed hotties. xd Yea romcoms fail at the development of people, but women really seem to like them. Apparently The Other Woman is the movie that has finally knocked Captain America: Winter Soldier out of number one. Conceptually it seems offensive all over. It's kind of sad, but I think men would be more amenable to smarter, less 'girly toy' women in films - albeit so long as they still were at least nice eye candy - than most women would be. Which is probably why action movies are actually doing more and more to characterize people and romcoms still aren't doing it.I do think Black Widow was definitely two-dimensional in Iron Man 2 and had Winter Soldier come first I don't think I'd have tolerated it, but at the time it was kind of the foray into 'hey here is a smarter somewhat more diverse woman with potential to be more than a sex cake.' Do you know a why on Howard's replacement? I've never looked into that.
Yea I'm definitely not anti-sex in films, and sometimes I quite like it I do wish they were smarter about it and I wish they still had more diverse scenarios of male/female relationships. More friendships or acquaintances without sexual tension, or tension that never manifests into anything. Generally, scenarios that are more human, more realistic.))
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JuokasKurvas Vice Captain
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Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 5:35 pm
Jounouchi stared down at the phone in his hands, already having forgotten how to go back to messages, "...I'm just gonna call him." he murmured, doing so.
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"Really?" Anzu asked in surprise, "Is that because what's going on has forced them to work together? I... still don't really understand a lot of it." she blinked and frowned, looking at the partition in front of them, "Are Jounouchi and Kaiba Kun in the front?"
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Yuugi smiled at Honda, sharing in his relief. The phone then rang, and Mokuba quickly answered, "Nii Sama? Oh, Jounouchi." he smiled, "We're so glad you guys are safe. Did anyone get hurt?" he listened as Jounouchi explained what had happened with Anzu, saying after that everyone had gotten out safely, Anzu was unconscious and unpossessed, and they would be checking on her when they got to the shrine.
Mokuba listened stoically, nodding along as he did, "So Nii Sama is driving right now? Okay, we're almost there too. See you guys soon." he hung up after saying goodbye, looking to the others and reiterating what Jounouchi had told him.
((We all fall into some stereotypes. Like even though I myself am pansexual, I generally prefer male/male pairings over het or female/female, so I feel like I fall into the yaoi fangirl stereotype. XD But eh, I like what I like, and honestly I think it's more because male characters tend to be better developed. Like in Sailor Moon I definitely prefer lesbian pairings, because the female characters are the more interesting ones. I like a bit of abs, buff arms I don't really care either way (except on Wolverine, mmm), but I adore lean shoulders on both men and women. Yeah, I'm a shoulder person, weird, I know. XD Ooh, and backs too. Love me some backs. But I still prefer less childish movies, even if I have to sacrifice some eye candy for them. That's sad that a rom com is beating Winter Soldier, but whatever. Anyway, I don't relate to most women very well in terms of pop culture preferences, so I'm not sure what they want in movies, but I do think that it's more Hollywood afraid of taking risks that prevents more likable women being in movies, rather than blatant sexism from the majority of the male population. I do agree that male-targeted movies are doing better at progressive female portrayals, but, and correct me if I'm wrong because I'm not gonna bother researching it, aren't rom coms generally written/directed by men too? I feel like female writers would be less likely to generalize women in such stereotypical ways, but maybe that's just me being sexist. XD I usually think female writers portray women way better than movies though. As for Howard, I remember when it first happened I looked into it, and it had to do with a pay dispute. That was when the news first struck though, so I'll look into if that was just a rumor or not.
I very much agree with the desire for more diverse male/female scenarios, but I also wish for that for male/male, and especially female/female scenarios. I think it's getting better with men, where they're more able to show affection for other men without being labeled automatically gay, but they still can't, you know, actually be gay unless they're in a specifically gay movie. For women it's just awful; most blockbusters don't even pass the Bechdel test still. Women aren't discussing anything with one another that doesn't relate to men. And the only lesbians they're going to show are ones there as eye candy.))
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