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Actually they don't see it as pointless now...except in more menial circumstances. They just edited the rules, not threw them away alltogether. What it does is take away the shame the family faced, they are now ready to be back in "civilized society". I mean is the US better where once you are shamed you might never go back? Families to under the suffering because of what ONE person did? I am not condoning seppuku, but I do have respect for those who do it. You HAVE to be brave to pull off something like that. They are bringing pain and taking away their own lives just to bring back happyness not for themselves...but for their family. It's a selfless act if you think about it in that respect. The problem is you cannot see past the ideals that American society has shoved into your brain, which makes you like a sheep stare

It did mean something, but I said despite.

I REALLY dont think if the member that did something bad killing himself is gonna make his family any happier stare

AS for being a sheep I have never been to America,I have mett one American citizen in real life that I actually got to know (a bit). My ideals come from logic, and clearly no good comes from killing ones self stare



And cool pictures Melodious, but is the first sword you hold also a light saber but switched off?

Actually if you knew much about Japanese society....it DOES make them happier and that's the point! I mean you're saying that these people are happy living in shame for something they didn't do? Oh yeah that makes logical sense!!

Anyways how can you say something in logic about something you don't even wish to consider from the other side?

i dont really care if they do personally, they just make things complicated most of the time.

If you wish they could find a new way it means you disagree with it like me confused
And I understand it just fine, but I m just saying its silly cause NO ONE BENEFITS FROM IT....

Yeah but kiling yourself is a silly way to get honor, there are other ways you know stare
Superior: You are nothing, you have NO HONOR!!!
Other guy: Oh no, I will prove my honor*kills himself*
Superior: Wow he wasnt so bad after all, he had honor give him a proper burial

Now who got what from that surprised , and I threw in the proper buriel who knows if they d actually give the guy that much

And if its such a great way to gain your honor back why dont they still do it now stare , maybe because they saw how its wrong surprised

Where did the gay boy scouts come from xd

And I m talking about the general public, there are old fashioned people all over the world who do things the old fashioned way stare

And ok lets say in my example the guy ran away from a battle