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Thee Stranger


PostPosted: Mon May 10, 2010 10:07 pm


Can't say anything for Shoot 'Em Up, because I haven't seen it. xd but hopefully it's nothing like Crank, or else I'm afraid you're gonna have a lower opinion of me.
PostPosted: Mon May 10, 2010 10:08 pm


Thee Stranger
Statham* sorry. xd I love Lock, Stock. That was the first thing I saw him in, and I liked him in that. ******** Transporter. All of 'em. And especially ******** Crank. That is one of the dumbest-a** movies I've ever seen. And the guy has just overstayed his welcome. He annoys me. I'm sick of him. Also, edited my post with a reply to about Chrono Trigger. 3nodding
Death Race still kicked a**. And so will Expendables.

Chase Me To The End
Yarg, I'm not ashamed to admit that sometimes I love a mindless action flick.
Mindless action flicks are the best kind. I'm so tired of these, "Look at our awesome storyline" action flicks like Bourne. They're basically Action-Dramas. I just wanna see some guns and explosions.

Biohazard EXTREME


King of Paradise

PostPosted: Mon May 10, 2010 10:14 pm


Thee Stranger
Can't say anything for Shoot 'Em Up, because I haven't seen it. xd but hopefully it's nothing like Crank, or else I'm afraid you're gonna have a lower opinion of me.


If you don't take it too serious, there's no way you can dislike it. Well, the same can be sorta said for Crank...

No. Shoot 'Em Up is way too stylish to be able to be compared to Crank.

Just watch it sometime, and get back to me on it.
PostPosted: Tue May 11, 2010 10:21 pm


Cool. I'll have to check it out. I don't know, I like some mindless action movies, but Crank just wasn't one of 'em. And as a rule, yeah, I like some substance along with my guns and explosions. And what's wrong with that?

And I saw the new Freddy tonight. Meh. Was not impressed. The only thing it really had over the original was the very end scene. It was a much cooler effect. But other than that, wasn't too big on it. Bring Englund back. And seriously, Jacky Earl Haley is a good actor. His role in the new Freddy movie is like a cross between Rorschach and the character he played in Little Children. It's like they're type casting him. He wasn't bad or anything, but he just didn't feel like Freddy to me. I didn't hate the movie, it's just meh. Kinda pointless.


Thee Stranger



King of Paradise

PostPosted: Tue May 11, 2010 10:43 pm


Thee Stranger
Cool. I'll have to check it out. I don't know, I like some mindless action movies, but Crank just wasn't one of 'em. And as a rule, yeah, I like some substance along with my guns and explosions. And what's wrong with that?

And I saw the new Freddy tonight. Meh. Was not impressed. The only thing it really had over the original was the very end scene. It was a much cooler effect. But other than that, wasn't too big on it. Bring Englund back.


While I think the end scene had the only cool death in the entire movie, at no time did I ever think it was cooler than the original's ending. Then again, what's considered cool is subjective, I suppose.

I dunno. But when you say cooler effect, I'd have to disagree. Although it's obviously fake, seeing an entire body lifted and pulled through a small front door window at a disturbing speed is still a sight to behold, and something I haven't seen before or since (unlike being stabbed through the face, which is commonplace in Slasher flicks).

Don't look into this too much. I only want to defend it because the original nightmare on elm street probably has my favorite horror movie ending, and all because of that impacting imagery (Impacting for me, at least).
PostPosted: Tue May 11, 2010 11:23 pm


That's cool.

Just for me, the legs were so obviously a doll.


Thee Stranger



Biohazard EXTREME

PostPosted: Wed May 12, 2010 2:42 pm


Thee Stranger
Cool. I'll have to check it out. I don't know, I like some mindless action movies, but Crank just wasn't one of 'em. And as a rule, yeah, I like some substance along with my guns and explosions. And what's wrong with that?
Well, you just answered your own question. You said, "As a rule" as if to say, that's your strict way of thinking and anything else you hate. Yeah, I like Ronin or another really good action movie with a storyline as much as anyone else. But sometimes you don't want there to be too much story. I mean, look at The Dark Knight. There was more dialogue than action in it. It was so damn tedious. Sometimes all I want is some high octane action, just because I just spent a day shoe shopping with my friend, or some other girly crap like that, and I just need to cancel it out with some macho.
If you've ever seen the movie, "Men of War" that's the epitome of my kind of action movie.

Thee Stranger
And I saw the new Freddy tonight. Meh. Was not impressed. The only thing it really had over the original was the very end scene. It was a much cooler effect. But other than that, wasn't too big on it. Bring Englund back. And seriously, Jacky Earl Haley is a good actor. His role in the new Freddy movie is like a cross between Rorschach and the character he played in Little Children. It's like they're type casting him. He wasn't bad or anything, but he just didn't feel like Freddy to me. I didn't hate the movie, it's just meh. Kinda pointless.
Yeah, I figured it would be. I'm gonna see it just to have an objective opinion of it as a Nightmare on Elm Street fan.
They should've just done a reimagining, and did something completely different, like The Fly, or Dawn of the Dead did.
PostPosted: Wed May 12, 2010 4:57 pm


Biohazard EXTREME
Well, you just answered your own question. You said, "As a rule" as if to say, that's your strict way of thinking and anything else you hate.

Click this.

Okay? So, as a rule, I like there to be a good story in my actions flicks. But there are exceptions to every rule. And as you can see, the term means basically in general. Not strict or absolute.

Biohazard EXTREME
Yeah, I like Ronin or another really good action movie with a storyline as much as anyone else. But sometimes you don't want there to be too much story. I mean, look at The Dark Knight. There was more dialogue than action in it. It was so damn tedious. Sometimes all I want is some high octane action, just because I just spent a day shoe shopping with my friend, or some other girly crap like that, and I just need to cancel it out with some macho.
If you've ever seen the movie, "Men of War" that's the epitome of my kind of action movie.

And that's fine, dude. You have my blessing, not that I think you should care. You're entitled to your own personal tastes and opinions, and I'm entitled to mine. (with the exceptions of the Resident Evil movies, those just suck for a fact wink ) And I think you could compare my take on this with your way of thinking on video games. I'd say that, as a rule, you're a big proponent for good storylines in video games. Or at the very least, a storyline in your video game. Generally, you enjoy video games with a storyline more than you do those without, correct? And many people find those same cutscenes and dialogue and character development that you find enjoyable in video games tedious and boring, and feel it takes away from the action, and thus, the point of the game for them. For me, the main point of a movie is the storyline, be it an action movie, what have you. That's what I feel is most important above all. Though it is quite enjoyable, the action is secondary to that. In games, I feel the gameplay is the main focus and the story is secondary to that. Even though I also enjoy a storyline with cutscenes, character development, etc.

Now, I can see where you're coming from here. I don't really go to a horror movie these days to see something with a great storyline, or even something that will really scare me or engage me. I mostly go to see the gore, creative death scenes, tits, etc. You know, the shallow stuff. No real substance going on underneath, or characters I give two shits about. Usually, I'm cheering on the stalker/killer. I feel that a genuinely good horror movie should give me characters that I actually give a s**t about, and might actually feel tense when they're in a bad spot. I feel a genuinely good horror movie should have a genuinely creepy story, and genuinely creep me out. The substance is what engages me into the events that are taking place, and gives those events impact. Instead of just sitting apathetically as usual when someone's getting hacked up. The substance is what makes it a better movie to me.

And there are movies, both in the action and horror genres, that I find enjoyable just because it does all the shallow stuff well, and I just plain enjoyed what was there. I feel they're good for what they are, and what they try to be. If they're trying to be something more and they fail, they failed to accomplish what they set out to do. If they're just trying to be the mindless, standard fodder horror flick, and they even fail at that, then they failed to accomplish anything.

I feel the same way about action movies. That's pretty much how I feel about Crank.

Biohazard EXTREME
Yeah, I figured it would be. I'm gonna see it just to have an objective opinion of it as a Nightmare on Elm Street fan.
They should've just done a reimagining, and did something completely different, like The Fly, or Dawn of the Dead did.

I got a good idea. How 'bout just leave it alone? Let Freddy lie in the 80s where he belongs. We got Freddy VS Jason. It's done. Let it go. Give us a new horror icon. A new, original idea. Not another rehash. That's my thoughts.


Thee Stranger



Biohazard EXTREME

PostPosted: Wed May 12, 2010 6:26 pm


Thee Stranger
Click this.

Okay? So, as a rule, I like there to be a good story in my actions flicks. But there are exceptions to every rule. And as you can see, the term means basically in general. Not strict or absolute.
I see. I dunno, whenever I hear that, it seems like such a strict phrase. Like, "As a rule, I like it when people take their shoes off inside my house... You rude p***k."


Thee Stranger
And that's fine, dude. You have my blessing, not that I think you should care. You're entitled to your own personal tastes and opinions, and I'm entitled to mine. (with the exceptions of the Resident Evil movies, those just suck for a fact wink ) And I think you could compare my take on this with your way of thinking on video games. I'd say that, as a rule, you're a big proponent for good storylines in video games. Or at the very least, a storyline in your video game. Generally, you enjoy video games with a storyline more than you do those without, correct? And many people find those same cutscenes and dialogue and character development that you find enjoyable in video games tedious and boring, and feel it takes away from the action, and thus, the point of the game for them. For me, the main point of a movie is the storyline, be it an action movie, what have you. That's what I feel is most important above all. Though it is quite enjoyable, the action is secondary to that. In games, I feel the gameplay is the main focus and the story is secondary to that. Even though I also enjoy a storyline with cutscenes, character development, etc.
Yeah, but a storyline can constitute anything. I went out to get a carton of milk. That's a story right there. It's not very interesting, but it's a story. Or, I went out to get a carton of milk, and I got attacked by ninjas on my way there. A bit more interesting, right? Haha. If nothing else, at least you'll get a good fight out of it... Or in a realistic situation, at least you'll see me get my a** handed to me.
Point is, that's how it is with action movies. Yes, an action movie without ANY story is just a UFC fight, or a paintball match, if those were broadcast.
But as long as there's a drive to it, any kind of drive, "Ex-military man gets his daughter kidnapped by bad guys. He must now get her back and kick as much a** as possible." It's simple, but it's Commando, right there.

With games, yeah, I like a good storyline. Or no storyline at all, honestly. Like, if they gave me something like MGS VR Missions, I could supplement it with a story I make up in my head. The problem with VR missions is that they look VRish, and not set in actual buildings, or whatnot.
I mean, I restart Fallout 3 on a regular basis. And every once in a while, I just get out of that Vault, and I forget the main storyline, and I just explore, and interact with everyone as if my character was just another Wasteland explorer with a different drive every time. That kind of thing I'm all down for, sometimes. Sometimes.

But mostly... It's not a matter of storyline with video games, it's a matter of narrative. Of HOW the story is told. Sequels are a different matter. With sequels it's about not butchering what the game represents, like a certain franchise, I won't point any fingers.


Thee Stranger
Now, I can see where you're coming from here. I don't really go to a horror movie these days to see something with a great storyline, or even something that will really scare me or engage me. I mostly go to see the gore, creative death scenes, tits, etc. You know, the shallow stuff. No real substance going on underneath, or characters I give two shits about. Usually, I'm cheering on the stalker/killer.
Exactly. Sometimes you want that shallow filler of blood and gore, or guns and explosions, or men in tights flying around a city rescuing fragile girls, or ridiculous, over the top laughs. Obviously not ALL the time, but some people PREFER that Will Ferrel type comedy, and while I personally hate it, with a FEW exceptions, I'm not gonna say that Dodgeball is a bad movie just because it's incredibly stupid. Of course there are exceptions... Me, Myself and Irene was just plain tasteless. Jim Carrey's worst movie ever. But I digress.

Thee Stranger
I feel that a genuinely good horror movie should give me characters that I actually give a s**t about, and might actually feel tense when they're in a bad spot. I feel a genuinely good horror movie should have a genuinely creepy story, and genuinely creep me out. The substance is what engages me into the events that are taking place, and gives those events impact. Instead of just sitting apathetically as usual when someone's getting hacked up. The substance is what makes it a better movie to me.
But oftentimes it CAN drag. The Ring is a great example. Yes, I thought it was hella freaky, and I thought the storyline was very engaging, but I had a hard time watching it the second time around, because it's like, "Stop talking already and get to the freaky parts."
Same with the action movies, and... Well... Not really with comedies, because laughs are usually abundant in good, tasteful comedies. But that's a completely different genre. Comedy is like Drama, but opposite. But both of them you watch for the characters.

Thee Stranger
And there are movies, both in the action and horror genres, that I find enjoyable just because it does all the shallow stuff well, and I just plain enjoyed what was there. I feel they're good for what they are, and what they try to be. If they're trying to be something more and they fail, they failed to accomplish what they set out to do. If they're just trying to be the mindless, standard fodder horror flick, and they even fail at that, then they failed to accomplish anything.
Well, that's the thing. I agree with that statement, but personally I think that if they didn't fail, then that makes it a good movie. Take a movie like... Okay, take 95% of Van Damme movies. They've very enjoyable. What do people want to see in a Van Damme movie? They want to see JCVD kicking a**. And by those standards, Van Damme made plenty of great movies in his career. Because they deliver.
Now, if you look at something like the recently released Universal Soldier 3, that movie kinda sucks, because Van Damme is barely in it at all. He's got a couple of really good fight scenes, but most of the action is done by other characters. And some of it isn't even that good. So yeah, I think it failed. But you take a movie like Men of War, which I really think you should see if you can, you got Dolph Lundgren kicking a**, with machine guns, rocket launchers, knife fights, explosions (obviously, hence rocket launchers), and all of it on a consistent basis throughout the whole movie... You get all that and it's a good movie, because it delivers everything it needs to.

Thee Stranger
I feel the same way about action movies. That's pretty much how I feel about Crank.
Truth be told, I never did see Crank. And yeah, it looked a bit too gimmicky for me, so I'm probably not gonna. I gained respect for Jason Statham after Death Race.

Thee Stranger
I got a good idea. How 'bout just leave it alone? Let Freddy lie in the 80s where he belongs. We got Freddy VS Jason. It's done. Let it go. Give us a new horror icon. A new, original idea. Not another rehash. That's my thoughts.
A new, original idea... Seems kind of contradictory to this generation of film making.
PostPosted: Wed May 12, 2010 6:54 pm


Speaking of new, original ideas, I'm gonna go see The Human Centipede this saturday night. It's supposed to be seriously fuc*ed up, so it's right up my alley.

EDIT:

And fuuuuuuuuuu-

God I hate losing progress in RPGs.

I was having a good ol' time in FFVIII, stocking up on tons o' spells, when alluva sudden some God damn monster drew an ultima spell from me and promptly put me in my place.

One of the things I really love about FFXIII is the fact that you don't get game over if you die.

I don't care about blaggarts who say it removes the challenge. No, it doesn't, and it's also a Godsend for bullshi* happenings like the one I just experienced. Two hours fuc*ing gone, just like that. I'm done with FFVIII for a few weeks...

Back to XIII.

King of Paradise


Biohazard EXTREME

PostPosted: Wed May 12, 2010 8:58 pm


Chase Me To The End
I was having a good ol' time in FFVIII, stocking up on tons o' spells, when alluva sudden some God damn monster drew an ultima spell from me and promptly put me in my place.
Where was this? And what monster?

Chase Me To The End
One of the things I really love about FFXIII is the fact that you don't get game over if you die.
That's why you should save often.

Chase Me To The End
I don't care about blaggarts who say it removes the challenge.
No, it doesn't, and it's also a Godsend for bullshi* happenings like the one I just experienced. Two hours fuc*ing gone, just like that. I'm done with FFVIII for a few weeks...
I do hope you don't have the same policy for Survival Horror (or wannabe Survival Horror). Cause you know, having a check point in every other room in RE4 DID remove the challenge and made the game for pussies.


By the way. I never did make the announcement, did I? I gots a new PS3 slim, and it's quiet and functional and sexy! I'm happy.
PostPosted: Wed May 12, 2010 9:32 pm


Biohazard EXTREME
Chase Me To The End
I was having a good ol' time in FFVIII, stocking up on tons o' spells, when alluva sudden some God damn monster drew an ultima spell from me and promptly put me in my place.
Where was this? And what monster?

Chase Me To The End
One of the things I really love about FFXIII is the fact that you don't get game over if you die.
That's why you should save often.

Chase Me To The End
I don't care about blaggarts who say it removes the challenge.
No, it doesn't, and it's also a Godsend for bullshi* happenings like the one I just experienced. Two hours fuc*ing gone, just like that. I'm done with FFVIII for a few weeks...
I do hope you don't have the same policy for Survival Horror (or wannabe Survival Horror). Cause you know, having a check point in every other room in RE4 DID remove the challenge and made the game for pussies.


By the way. I never did make the announcement, did I? I gots a new PS3 slim, and it's quiet and functional and sexy! I'm happy.


1. Outside of Winhill. It was a hand monster.

2. Yeah, I know. I was just in a ignorant grinding groove; ignorant of how long I was actually grinding for.

3. A check point in every other room? So...Is Uncharted a game for pussies?

Nah, just rippin'.

My mentality is this: I love being able to save absolutely whenever I want in a game. I believe the challenge of a game doesn't lie in how long you're forced to play without a chance to save, but rather in the perplexity of the challenges offered (i.e. boss fights, puzzles, etc.)

Some games don't need checkpoints in every other room because the challenges between the check points aren't that hard. But, think whatever you want of me man, in games like RE4 and Uncharted, the constant check points are something that are desired, because it gets absolutely frustrating to conquer one hard challenge just to get floored by another, and then sent back to play a challenge you already conquered just so you can try your hands again at the next one that floored you (And might again, thus repeating the cycle).

Now, if you're the type of player who only thinks a game is challenging if the challenges are perplexing AND the checkpoints are far and few between, kudos to you. You're hardcore and I'm not; whatever. I don't like being frustrated as a gamer. I've broken over 10+ controllers in my gaming career, which is why I have the mentality I have. I'm an angry gamer, and I haven't learned how to calm down yet haha...Ehh, maybe it's not that funny. Anyways, yeah.

4. Congrats on your new slim baby, man. biggrin Umm, you and Thee Stranger can both remove me from your friends list. I haven't been online in ages, and I quit online gaming a few months ago anyways (I quit because of my said angry game tendencies).

King of Paradise


Biohazard EXTREME

PostPosted: Wed May 12, 2010 9:46 pm


Chase Me To The End
3. A check point in every other room? So...Is Uncharted a game for pussies?
Last time I checked, Uncharted wasn't a Survival Horror game.


Chase Me To The End
Some games don't need checkpoints in every other room because the challenges between the check points aren't that hard. But, think whatever you want of me man, in games like RE4 and Uncharted, the constant check points are something that are desired, because it gets absolutely frustrating to conquer one hard challenge just to get floored by another, and then sent back to play a challenge you already conquered just so you can try your hands again at the next one that floored you (And might again, thus repeating the cycle).
You know, I remember a time when you could play a Resident Evil game... And if you hadn't saved for a while and a boss fight came up, then you actually felt like something was at stake, like if you don't win, there's a high price to pay. Albeit, a few hours of gameplay isn't that high of a price, but still, it felt ******** significant. And half the horror factor came from that.
I remember playing RE4, my first time, and when I lost to Krauser, I was like, "Oh well, it's just gonna restart me from this room anyway. No big deal."
And that's NOT the attitude you want in a Survival Horror game... Otherwise, who gives a s**t?

Chase Me To The End
4. Congrats on your new slim baby, man. biggrin Umm, you and Thee Stranger can both remove me from your friends list. I haven't been online in ages, and I quit online gaming a few months ago anyways (I quit because of my said angry game tendencies).
Well, you should hang out on PlayStation Home with Angela and me sometime. Like, not in a public place where all the losers are, just at one of our personal places. It's like a really cool chatroom, we talk about games, and stuff. It's fun. And a hell of a time killer.

By the way, speaking of communication, do you have Facebook or MSN or anything? Since we're kind of collaborating, it might be a good idea to keep in touch on something other than just Gaia.
PostPosted: Wed May 12, 2010 9:57 pm


Hol-eee ********. I'm not even bothering reading all that s**t. I just gave you my stance, and an agreement to disagree. I'm not taking it beyond that this time. I'm in no ********' mood.

EDIT: I'm really sorry, Bio. I'm an a*****e. I'm kind of sick of being an a*****e. I'm not having a good night. Just... ignore me. I'll get back at you later.


Thee Stranger


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